So you are claiming UW sucks at hoops because the 3 coaches before Romar were various forms of bad hires that were never head coaches at a D1 or NBA level going forward as indicative that this is a shit program?
Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
So you are claiming UW sucks at hoops because the 3 coaches before Romar were various forms of bad hires that were never head coaches at a D1 or NBA level going forward as indicative that this is a shit program?
Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
You completely miss the point as usual. We are saying the program sucks because it does. Nobody is saying that it can't be good. Not hard to realize the difference. Good coaches win, bad coaches lose. UW with the right coach will win. What an observation dumb ass.
UW has won 5 conference championship since 1953. You're using Bob Bender as an example of a coach doing a decent job. But how is this a historically weak program?
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Wayne Fucking Tinkle went from Montana to take Oregon State to the tournament
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Until you point out the vast majority of mid-majors will only get a ticket to the tourney if they WIN their conference which in the power 5 is not the case.
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Wayne Fucking Tinkle went from Montana to take Oregon State to the tournament
Except Tinkle was good at Montana.
Romar was a combined 93-88 at Pepperdine and St. Louis. Conference record of 46-44. He never set the world on fire at the mid-major level.
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Wayne Fucking Tinkle went from Montana to take Oregon State to the tournament
Except Tinkle was good at Montana.
Romar was a combined 93-88 at Pepperdine and St. Louis. Conference record of 46-44. He never set the world on fire at the mid-major level.
He's not comparing Tinkle to Romar, he's comparing Tinkle to the masses of midmajor corches who would be improvements on Romar.
If it is realistic to think UW can compete for Pac-12 championships in football every year and have a legitimate shot at a national title at least once a decade, the same is realistic to expect for hoops.
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
It's Door.Ass.Out.
Agree otherwise
Doog new narrative, parroted from their leader:
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Wayne Fucking Tinkle went from Montana to take Oregon State to the tournament
Except Tinkle was good at Montana.
Romar was a combined 93-88 at Pepperdine and St. Louis. Conference record of 46-44. He never set the world on fire at the mid-major level.
So you're saying even a mediocre midmajor coach can work.
Romar is a "good man" because he realizes he has lost the team and his coaching cred...which means he's going to retire while still convincing the Porters to stick with UW next year because he's such a good man.
So you are claiming UW sucks at hoops because the 3 coaches before Romar were various forms of bad hires that were never head coaches at a D1 or NBA level going forward as indicative that this is a shit program?
Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
You completely miss the point as usual. We are saying the program sucks because it does. Nobody is saying that it can't be good. Not hard to realize the difference. Good coaches win, bad coaches lose. UW with the right coach will win. What an observation dumb ass.
UW has won 5 conference championship since 1953. You're using Bob Bender as an example of a coach doing a decent job. But how is this a historically weak program?
You are fucktarded as usual ...
Tell me how many PAC schools have conference titles through the 60s and 70s ... that's UCLA territory with the greatest coach in college hoops history. It was also back in the day where only the conference champion made the NCAAs ... one year USC lost only 2 games all year (both to UCLA) and got nothing to show for it.
Bender isn't an example of a great coach you fucktard ... Bender is an example of a guy that had success in this program BEFORE his alienation of the local hoops power brokers came back to bite him in the ass.
On the whole, Nance, Russo, and Bender were shit coaches. Suggesting that the program will always suck because it sucked under them is insanely FS. As was pointed out elsewhere, if Oregon can compete at a high level then why can't Washington?
This idea that Washington will more often than not have a shit program because that's the way it is is so fuckingly doogishly stupid ... the program largely hasn't been prioritized and been an afterthought ... there's not a single other program that I can think of at UW that has been neglected with indifference more than hoops ... look at baseball for example as an indication of how a little focused prioritization can result in a revitalization of a program
So you are claiming UW sucks at hoops because the 3 coaches before Romar were various forms of bad hires that were never head coaches at a D1 or NBA level going forward as indicative that this is a shit program?
Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
You completely miss the point as usual. We are saying the program sucks because it does. Nobody is saying that it can't be good. Not hard to realize the difference. Good coaches win, bad coaches lose. UW with the right coach will win. What an observation dumb ass.
UW has won 5 conference championship since 1953. You're using Bob Bender as an example of a coach doing a decent job. But how is this a historically weak program?
You are fucktarded as usual ...
Tell me how many PAC schools have conference titles through the 60s and 70s ... that's UCLA territory with the greatest coach in college hoops history. It was also back in the day where only the conference champion made the NCAAs ... one year USC lost only 2 games all year (both to UCLA) and got nothing to show for it.
Bender isn't an example of a great coach you fucktard ... Bender is an example of a guy that had success in this program BEFORE his alienation of the local hoops power brokers came back to bite him in the ass.
On the whole, Nance, Russo, and Bender were shit coaches. Suggesting that the program will always suck because it sucked under them is insanely FS. As was pointed out elsewhere, if Oregon can compete at a high level then why can't Washington?
This idea that Washington will more often than not have a shit program because that's the way it is is so fuckingly doogishly stupid ... the program largely hasn't been prioritized and been an afterthought ... there's not a single other program that I can think of at UW that has been neglected with indifference more than hoops ... look at baseball for example as an indication of how a little focused prioritization can result in a revitalization of a program
So you are claiming UW sucks at hoops because the 3 coaches before Romar were various forms of bad hires that were never head coaches at a D1 or NBA level going forward as indicative that this is a shit program?
Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
You completely miss the point as usual. We are saying the program sucks because it does. Nobody is saying that it can't be good. Not hard to realize the difference. Good coaches win, bad coaches lose. UW with the right coach will win. What an observation dumb ass.
UW has won 5 conference championship since 1953. You're using Bob Bender as an example of a coach doing a decent job. But how is this a historically weak program?
You are fucktarded as usual ...
Tell me how many PAC schools have conference titles through the 60s and 70s ... that's UCLA territory with the greatest coach in college hoops history. It was also back in the day where only the conference champion made the NCAAs ... one year USC lost only 2 games all year (both to UCLA) and got nothing to show for it.
Bender isn't an example of a great coach you fucktard ... Bender is an example of a guy that had success in this program BEFORE his alienation of the local hoops power brokers came back to bite him in the ass.
On the whole, Nance, Russo, and Bender were shit coaches. Suggesting that the program will always suck because it sucked under them is insanely FS. As was pointed out elsewhere, if Oregon can compete at a high level then why can't Washington?
This idea that Washington will more often than not have a shit program because that's the way it is is so fuckingly doogishly stupid ... the program largely hasn't been prioritized and been an afterthought ... there's not a single other program that I can think of at UW that has been neglected with indifference more than hoops ... look at baseball for example as an indication of how a little focused prioritization can result in a revitalization of a program
No one here is saying any of that.
Chill with the strawmen.
Among other things that have been said is the comment that Washington is historically a bad program. Washington is top 20 all time in total wins in the history of college basketball:
I've heard versions of the argument that UW sucks at hoops and that is their lot in life for almost 20 years now ... it's a horseshit argument to me. It's not one that was in place when Romar was at the top of his tenure ... it's just a narrative that has come back to explain away why we suck now, how it can't be Romar's fault, and who are we going to hire afterwards ... I'm not saying you are saying that but these are classic doog arguments.
I can't speak to what the budget looks like and what we can afford for whoever the next coach is at UW ... but what I do know is that if we make a strong hire for this position (which we haven't made a strong hire for this job dating back to Harshman) there's no reason to not expect that this program can't be strong.
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Let's not forget that Bender was a rebound away from an Elite 8 appearance and had done a decent job turning the program around until he pissed off the local AAU scene ...
Let's not forget that Romar had strong success by keeping the local talent home and recruiting has never really been the issue.
It's all coaching here ... get the right coach and this program can be very, very strong ...
Nobody is saying that the UW program needs to be better than UCLA or Arizona ... but there's also no reason why this program can't be at a level where it is consistently in position to make the NCAAs ... no reason to say 6 straight years of missing the NCAAs is acceptable
Romar should have been ass-door-out six years ago. There is no winning culture whatsoever and very few are demanding it. The mere fact that there is any kind of argument that Romar should come back next year is the only proof you need that UW is a pussy school when it comes to basketball.
Fuck, WSU expects more out of their hoops program than UW does.
I said, "Hey, LoRo" he waived, smiled and said, "Hey" as he kept walking. I thought, What a great guy.
UW has won 5 conference championship since 1953. You're using Bob Bender as an example of a coach doing a decent job. But how is this a historically weak program?
Agree otherwise
We can't hire a successful mid major coach because it's easy to get to the tournament in their current conference. If he comes to the PAC-12, it's more difficult to make the tournament, so why would he come here?
It conveniently eliminates a good portion of candidates
Romar was a combined 93-88 at Pepperdine and St. Louis. Conference record of 46-44. He never set the world on fire at the mid-major level.
I like it.
So is every power confrence team in the cuntry.
For reference, please see Oregon, University of
Or one could hope...
Tell me how many PAC schools have conference titles through the 60s and 70s ... that's UCLA territory with the greatest coach in college hoops history. It was also back in the day where only the conference champion made the NCAAs ... one year USC lost only 2 games all year (both to UCLA) and got nothing to show for it.
Bender isn't an example of a great coach you fucktard ... Bender is an example of a guy that had success in this program BEFORE his alienation of the local hoops power brokers came back to bite him in the ass.
On the whole, Nance, Russo, and Bender were shit coaches. Suggesting that the program will always suck because it sucked under them is insanely FS. As was pointed out elsewhere, if Oregon can compete at a high level then why can't Washington?
This idea that Washington will more often than not have a shit program because that's the way it is is so fuckingly doogishly stupid ... the program largely hasn't been prioritized and been an afterthought ... there's not a single other program that I can think of at UW that has been neglected with indifference more than hoops ... look at baseball for example as an indication of how a little focused prioritization can result in a revitalization of a program
Chill with the strawmen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men's_college_basketball
I've heard versions of the argument that UW sucks at hoops and that is their lot in life for almost 20 years now ... it's a horseshit argument to me. It's not one that was in place when Romar was at the top of his tenure ... it's just a narrative that has come back to explain away why we suck now, how it can't be Romar's fault, and who are we going to hire afterwards ... I'm not saying you are saying that but these are classic doog arguments.
I can't speak to what the budget looks like and what we can afford for whoever the next coach is at UW ... but what I do know is that if we make a strong hire for this position (which we haven't made a strong hire for this job dating back to Harshman) there's no reason to not expect that this program can't be strong.