Great separation of Church & State as always
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I'm somewhat more liberal than they come and that's fucking ridiculous.
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Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?AlCzervik said:Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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I'm not OK with either. Murray will get noticed though.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?AlCzervik said:Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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Murray would take a blow job from Milo, no question.AlCzervik said:Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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I hate the mixing of religion and politics. Dont know what the point of this is besides showing that a gay man can go into a mosque without being being stoned to death.
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If the ACLU has any nuts, they ought to be making a complaint about this. Almost certainly no true legal case. I'm sure the City paid some rent so ostensibly it's just a building. But come on, ACLU has gone buckfutter over far less.
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In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.
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Cathedral wouldn't be the inverse of a mosque.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?AlCzervik said:Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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True. That would be more like Republican mayor speaking from Baptist church.BennyBeaver said:
Cathedral wouldn't be the inverse of a mosque.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?AlCzervik said:Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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FFRF has symmetry at least.
https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/28739-ffrf-uneasy-about-seattle-mayor-s-official-mosque-speechThe Freedom From Religion Foundation is concerned that the Seattle mayor's upcoming State of the City address (on Feb. 21) is scheduled to be delivered in a mosque.
In a letter to the mayor, FFRF Co-Presidents Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor commend Mayor Ed Murray's intention to stand against "state-sanctioned discrimination by the Trump administration," and agree with his characterization of the Muslim travel ban. FFRF is preparing an amicus brief against Trump's ban based on a religious test, and has publicly condemned it and urged its membership to oppose it.
However, FFRF believes that "the city should not oppose one violation of the Establishment Clause by committing another." An official address at a religious venue sends a message of endorsement of that venue's beliefs. In this case, this incorporates the Idris Mosque's criteria for couples wishing to get married at the mosque, which include a refusal to marry Muslim women and non-Muslim men, approval of the marriage by the parties' fathers or recognized Muslim guardians, (a condition that "especially applies to the bride)" and an agreement on a dowry between the bride's guardian and the groom.
"The Supreme Court has said time and again that the First Amendment 'mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion,'" Barker and Gaylor write to Murray. "Signaling endorsement of a religious group while acting as a state official is inappropriate and divisive." -
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I hate the mixing of religion and politics. Dont know what the point of this is besides showing that a gay man can go into a mosque without being being stoned to death.
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So he could be thrown off the roof
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Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
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I've wondered myself why this is the hill the left has decided to die on. Its horrible bet.YellowSnow said:Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
Europe is going to get their own "Trumps".
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Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.Baphomet said:In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.
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TurdBuffer said:
Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.Baphomet said:In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.
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Great point RaceRaceBannon said:
I've wondered myself why this is the hill the left has decided to die on. Its horrible bet.YellowSnow said:Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
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Thud?RaceBannon said:TurdBuffer said:
Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.Baphomet said:In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.
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Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing. -
I don't aside from hypocrisy.dhdawg said:Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
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I really wasn't making a comparison. If I had my way none of it would be happening.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I don't aside from hypocrisy.dhdawg said:Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
Prayer breakfast is ecumenical, not held in a sacred building, and most importantly is not a function of government.
Holding the state of the city in a mosque is a symbolic act of solidarity to a group many find to be a persecuted minority. not an endorsement of the religion of islam. -
Chintegrity saved then.dhdawg said:
I really wasn't making a comparison. If I had my way none of it would be happening.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I don't aside from hypocrisy.dhdawg said:Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
Prayer breakfast is ecumenical, not held in a sacred building, and most importantly is not a function of government.Holding the state of the city in a mosque is a symbolic act of solidarity to a group many find to be a persecuted minority. not an endorsement of the religion of islam. -
fair enoughGrundleStiltzkin said:
Chintegrity saved then.dhdawg said:
I really wasn't making a comparison. If I had my way none of it would be happening.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I don't aside from hypocrisy.dhdawg said:Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
Prayer breakfast is ecumenical, not held in a sacred building, and most importantly is not a function of government.Holding the state of the city in a mosque is a symbolic act of solidarity to a group many find to be a persecuted minority. not an endorsement of the religion of islam. -
Hair, check. Islamophobe, check. Hated by the establishment, check.RaceBannon said:
I've wondered myself why this is the hill the left has decided to die on. Its horrible bet.YellowSnow said:Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
Europe is going to get their own "Trumps".
#VoteHimIn
#DutchTrump
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Not an Ed Murray fan, and this is obviously a political move.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I don't aside from hypocrisy.dhdawg said:Who gives a fuck?
the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
Prayer breakfast is ecumenical, not held in a sacred building, and most importantly is not a function of government.
But so is the fucking prayer breakfast.
Both are dumb.
