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James Harden or Curry?

RoadDawg55
RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
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A lot changes in a year. I might roll with Harden.

Not a slight to Curry, but he had such a monster season last year he was considered the best player in the NBA. LeBron obviously shattered that.

Still a bonafied superstar, just an interesting debate that would have been an easy answer last year.

The NBA has a lot of great players right now. There seems to be more than usual.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Just a reminder, OKC had Westbrook, Harden and Durant on the same team.

    I'll take Harden. Curry's a little bitch.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Just a reminder, OKC had Westbrook, Harden and Durant on the same team.

    I'll take Harden. Curry's a little bitch.

    But how is Scott Brooks the worst coach in NBA history?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Just a reminder, OKC had Westbrook, Harden and Durant on the same team.

    I'll take Harden. Curry's a little bitch.

    But how is Scott Brooks the worst coach in NBA history?
    The Wizards like him
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Just a reminder, OKC had Westbrook, Harden and Durant on the same team.

    I'll take Harden. Curry's a little bitch.

    But how is Scott Brooks the worst coach in NBA history?
    The Wizards like him
    Making my point for me.
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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Just a reminder, OKC had Westbrook, Harden and Durant on the same team.

    I'll take Harden. Curry's a little bitch.

    I still think curry has as short career in terms of dominance. I don't think his body can withstand season after season getting beat up. I'd still take curry if it was one season based on his ability to include a team and still be good. Harden demands the ball so much that in the playoffs I think his team could be shut down much easier.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Harden is averaging 11 assists. More than that ball hog Steph Curry ever will.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    @RoadDawg55

    What's the arguments for/against each of them? To me, they are difficult to compare because so much of it to me is based on what they have surrounding them and what they are asked to do. Harden is probably the perfect fit for what Houston wants to do ... he's clearly in a position where he is able to maximize his impact on the game. Curry is in a different position where what he's asked to do isn't comparable. They both have their strengths and flaws.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    The correct answer is Westbrook
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    The Warriors will be fine ... they are still in the process of figuring things out and trying this or that. When motivated, they are still by far the most dangerous team in the NBA.

    The idea that Draymond is going to implode the team is something that I think is a popular opinion but I'm just not sure about it. I can see where people think that he's a grading personality and whatnot but he's really the glue that holds the team together. I've heard people claim that he's "fake tough" ... I'm not sure I would want to piss him off ... he's a bit of a throw back to me.

    As for the stuff that went down this weekend between Draymond and Durant, I would be shocked if it was a long term issue. I doubt Durant's had anybody get in his face over the years outside of Westbrook and when he did it he basically told him to fuck off. In the situation that Durant's in now, he doesn't hold the "I've done it better than you " card that he has held in the past. From time to time everybody needs someone to jump on their ass and call them out when they aren't into it or whatnot even if that means getting somebody's anger directed at you. Personally, I think Durant plays a lot better when he has a mission and something to prove to people. Draymond likely saw that Durant was flat, pushed some buttons, and is likely working to figure out what buttons to and not to push in the future in similar circumstances. It's part of learning to work with teammates.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    The Warriors will be fine ... they are still in the process of figuring things out and trying this or that. When motivated, they are still by far the most dangerous team in the NBA.

    The idea that Draymond is going to implode the team is something that I think is a popular opinion but I'm just not sure about it. I can see where people think that he's a grading personality and whatnot but he's really the glue that holds the team together. I've heard people claim that he's "fake tough" ... I'm not sure I would want to piss him off ... he's a bit of a throw back to me.

    As for the stuff that went down this weekend between Draymond and Durant, I would be shocked if it was a long term issue. I doubt Durant's had anybody get in his face over the years outside of Westbrook and when he did it he basically told him to fuck off. In the situation that Durant's in now, he doesn't hold the "I've done it better than you " card that he has held in the past. From time to time everybody needs someone to jump on their ass and call them out when they aren't into it or whatnot even if that means getting somebody's anger directed at you. Personally, I think Durant plays a lot better when he has a mission and something to prove to people. Draymond likely saw that Durant was flat, pushed some buttons, and is likely working to figure out what buttons to and not to push in the future in similar circumstances. It's part of learning to work with teammates.

    I remember this post when the Cavs had crawled back to 3-3
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    As I said at the time, congrats to Cleveland for coming back from 3-1 down. Green suspended for Game 5 and then Bogut's injury swung the series. I still firmly believe that if you play that series 10 times Golden State probably wins it 7 or 8 out of those 10 times.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    The Warriors will be fine ... they are still in the process of figuring things out and trying this or that. When motivated, they are still by far the most dangerous team in the NBA.

    The idea that Draymond is going to implode the team is something that I think is a popular opinion but I'm just not sure about it. I can see where people think that he's a grading personality and whatnot but he's really the glue that holds the team together. I've heard people claim that he's "fake tough" ... I'm not sure I would want to piss him off ... he's a bit of a throw back to me.

    As for the stuff that went down this weekend between Draymond and Durant, I would be shocked if it was a long term issue. I doubt Durant's had anybody get in his face over the years outside of Westbrook and when he did it he basically told him to fuck off. In the situation that Durant's in now, he doesn't hold the "I've done it better than you " card that he has held in the past. From time to time everybody needs someone to jump on their ass and call them out when they aren't into it or whatnot even if that means getting somebody's anger directed at you. Personally, I think Durant plays a lot better when he has a mission and something to prove to people. Draymond likely saw that Durant was flat, pushed some buttons, and is likely working to figure out what buttons to and not to push in the future in similar circumstances. It's part of learning to work with teammates.

    The Warriors are the favorites. I don't think they will lose, I just want them too because it would be entertaining.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Kawhi Leonard
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Larry Bird.

    lulz
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    CuntWaffle said:

    Kawhi Leonard

    I still don't trust Kawhi to get buckets down the stretch of playoff games.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited February 2017
    Tequilla said:

    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?

    Pau will be lucky to be in the game during crunch time. They still have Aldridge and Parker.

    Leonard is the guy.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?

    Pau will be lucky to be in the game during crunch time. They still have Aldridge and Parker.

    Leonard is the guy.
    Aldridge in crunch time?

    CHRIST
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?

    Pau will be lucky to be in the game during crunch time. They still have Aldridge and Parker.

    Leonard is the guy.
    Aldridge has his little place at about 17-19 feet to get the ball on a rotation ... but he's not the guy I'd want the ball in the hands of down the stretch.

    Parker isn't that guy anymore ...

    I'd be SHOCKED if Pau isn't in the game in crunch time ...
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?

    Pau will be lucky to be in the game during crunch time. They still have Aldridge and Parker.

    Leonard is the guy.
    Aldridge has his little place at about 17-19 feet to get the ball on a rotation ... but he's not the guy I'd want the ball in the hands of down the stretch.

    Parker isn't that guy anymore ...

    I'd be SHOCKED if Pau isn't in the game in crunch time ...
    You think Pau Gasol is still a go to player?
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    When the Spurs need a basket are they going to Kawhi or Pau?

    Pau will be lucky to be in the game during crunch time. They still have Aldridge and Parker.

    Leonard is the guy.
    Aldridge has his little place at about 17-19 feet to get the ball on a rotation ... but he's not the guy I'd want the ball in the hands of down the stretch.

    Parker isn't that guy anymore ...

    I'd be SHOCKED if Pau isn't in the game in crunch time ...
    You think Pau Gasol is still a go to player?
    I'd still be comfortable with the ball going through him in end of game situations given his passing ability. I don't think necessarily that I would be thinking that giving him the ball means that he's going to take the last shot. But given the right matchup on a day that he's feeling pretty good, I'm more than comfortable giving him the ball in the post and asking him to make the decision to either make the pass if a double comes or to use either hand if single covered. At this point of his career, he's in a lot of ways like Timmy in that if you catch him on a day where the body is feeling good, you ride him back to the fountain of youth.
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