Congratulations to all those who

HoustonHusky said:

2001400ex said:

Dude61 said:

dhdawg said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

FWIW I think this may get overturned

I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.

You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

So a wall is a solution without a problem.

What is the net migration of Central Americans that come through Mexico HondoFS?

2001400ex said:

Dude61 said:

dnc said:

I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.

Other options:

Repeal the anchor baby law.

Cut off all public assistance to illegals.

Punish companies that employ illegals. (Canada has some tough laws in this regard}

Develop a temporary work visa to allow migrant workers.

Less Humanitarian option:

Deploy state National Guards to border and give a two week notice. Shoot on sight anyone trying to cross illegally.

You do realize illegals don't get public assistance already. And one of the contributing factors to less illegal immigration is that Bush and Obama have increased security, border patrol, and deportations the last 15 years.

It's almost like you don't understand reality.

You realize illegals get billions in public assistance right?

By VERY conservative measure...
SNAP:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poor-illegal-immigrants-get-food-stamps-denied-to-poor-u.s.-citizens-2-billion-worth/article/2596115
Medicaid:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/how-undocumented-immigrants-sometimes-receive-medicaid-treatment/

And yes, those are just two small measured amounts...as somebody referenced before it has been reported to be as high as $113 billion a year, and no body can argue with the fact that govt money is spent. And yes...a lot of it is at the state and local level where they are footing the bill for teachers trying to get kids who don't speak English caught up in school, etc.
http://www.fairus.org/docserver/uscoststudy_2010.pdf

And another part that is always ignored is the stupid money the Feds pay back to illegal immigrants in Earned Income Tax Credit...
http://freebeacon.com/issues/illegal-immigrants-eligible-for-up-to-eight-refundable-tax-credits/


And another side question...why is it every Liberal hero like this idiotic Washington AG look like they have a soft skull and can get beat up by a 10 year old? You think probability would kick in and they would have at least 1 normal guy step forward but nope...

HoustonHusky said:

What the hell are you talking about? You said "illegals don't get public assistance already". That is fucking stupid lie by any and all measures.

And linking to Politifact as a rebuttal to anything I (didn't) type is just comical...as if they aren't biased or anything. One of many examples...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-25/politifact-apparently-even-facts-are-subjective-and-based-party-affiliation