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  • tvoie
    tvoie Member Posts: 996
    This is depressing as fuck!
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Zeke is a decent player. Why the hate?
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    Yep, the issue isn't the numbers in so much as it is the fact that half of them have not contributed shit to date.

    Our 14 OL this year produced an excellent starting unit and absolutely zero depth. We could not have sustained any OL injuries and kept rolling like we did at DL and LB and could have at DB or TE.

    So now for next year we are again struggling to sign 2-3 OL. Lets say we end up with Bainvalu and two Plan B/C guys. We lose one to attrition and we have 14 again.

    We need to replace Eldrenkamp- our best interior guy. And we need to find two capable backups.

    Which three is it going to be?

    Kirkland
    James
    Sosebee
    Turner
    Burleson
    Hilbers
    Roberts
    Wattenberg

    Keeping in mind that the first five guys were passed by a 270 lb. true freshman despite being in the program for three years already.
    That about nails it. The first 5 (fucking 5) were passed by an undersized freshman. Some of them are fucking Juniors. They suck. Everyone agrees you need 7 top shelf OL (i.e. ability to start at almost any school in the Pac12)...5 starting and 2 very capable back ups, while you bring the other 7 young guys along. Instead, next year, we have 2 really good ones, 2 very questionable ones (starting at other schools type questionable), and then what? And to make it even better, we are bringing in one great prospect, and then shit (unless we miracle Fozzy or Davis). An elite line is YEARS away. Strausser will have to work some magic to even be as good as this year as Eldrenkamp is a future NFL guy. He has proven he is good with working with these kids, but could we just get some better clay for him to mold someday? Ever?
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    At this point our best hope for OL recruiting is that Burleson and Turner turn out to be good players.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    Sounds like the idea a lot had going into this year HOPING that Brostek would have developed into something productive as a RS SR
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    Sounds like the idea a lot had going into this year HOPING that Brostek would have developed into something productive as a RS SR
    Yeah. We need to pray that Wattenburg lives up to the hype (though young), AND Roberts emerges, OR one of the FIVE losers who got passed by a 260 pound TF just clicks in a MAJOR way and salvages themselves. None of this is impossible, but does look a bit improbable. We need to recruit more and better guys. Even if all of the above happens (Wattenburg, Roberts and one of the suck crew emerge), that would put us at 5 good OL, and 2 serviceable backups, with absolute crap behind them. Depth would still be shit if everything breaks the right way. I know a bunch of people think this is beating a dead horse BUT I DONT GIVE A FIDDLERS FUCK BECAUSE I WANT A GODDAMN MAULER LINE!!!11!!!!11!!
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  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    HuskyClaws said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    We only lose Eldrenkamp and Brostek. If we sign 3 OL like it sounds like we'll do, we'll actually increase our number of scholarship OL. But next year the majority of our OL will be Juniors and Sophomores rather than Sophomores and Freshmen.
    Get a fucking grip. We have 1 OL commit and when we lose Fozzy we will take Norgaard and that will be it.

    So, the position it take longest to develop and where kids have the most injuries, we are thinnest in bodies per starting position.

    Further, half our 'bodies' are complete shit.

    FUCK OFF.
    I stand (trigger warning for Dennis, not sure if he can actually stand up yet) with @Dennis_DeYoung on this.

    You should never ever ever take less than OL per year.
    Less than what?
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    Sounds like the idea a lot had going into this year HOPING that Brostek would have developed into something productive as a RS SR
    Yep, its the exact same argument we had last year except in evidence we have one more year of subpar recruiting and one more year of most of the linemen not progressing as shown by Nick Harris winning the starting job over Brostek, James, Kirkland, Turner, Sosebee, etc.

    (All relative to the rest of the roster. Nobody thinks the OL is terrible it just is behind the other position groups.)

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  • KobeStan
    KobeStan Member Posts: 91
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
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  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Kirkland is serviceable against everyone except SC and Bama. Burelson im still willing to LIPO. All said, a 270 true frosh beat them all out.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited January 2017
    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    Counting on JUCO's? Was your old handle JCKevin?
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    We cant sign three OL in a single year that we actually want how are we gonna get 5?

    And JUCO? Holy hell Miguel, who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? How many JUCO OL recruits in the entire country could even be options in any given year?
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Not giving up on devin burleson, rare human being. Same with Henry Roberts and Twattenberg when he isn't sick. Those are all 6'5+ guys that move well.

    And yeah, no reason to run Zeke Turner, his special teams contribution alone is worth it.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,726 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    The problem w the OL recruiting is that it is the hardest to unbury yourself from

    The hardest part is that there just isn't the surplus of awesome prospects like there is at the skill positions.

    You actually have to beat other schools at it.
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  • KobeStan
    KobeStan Member Posts: 91
    FremontTroll said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    We cant sign three OL in a single year that we actually want how are we gonna get 5?

    And JUCO? Holy hell Miguel, who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? How many JUCO OL recruits in the entire country could even be options in any given year?
    Every single year there are a handful of JUCO OL starting the Pac12, Alabama uses JUCO OL, Oklahoma does as well. The last 2 years there have been JUCO OL on the all conference 1st team(Bolles from Utah and Dahl from WSU)
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  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    Houhusky said:

    KobeStan said:

    FremontTroll said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    We cant sign three OL in a single year that we actually want how are we gonna get 5?

    And JUCO? Holy hell Miguel, who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? How many JUCO OL recruits in the entire country could even be options in any given year?
    Every single year there are a handful of JUCO OL starting the Pac12, Alabama uses JUCO OL, Oklahoma does as well. The last 2 years there have been JUCO OL on the all conference 1st team(Bolles from Utah and Dahl from WSU)
    90% of the time JUCO players cant even qualify for UW because they take some fucktard PE programs at their community college and dont realize that UW wont recognize those credits.
    So you are saying that academis are important?
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,335
    KobeStan said:

    FremontTroll said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    We cant sign three OL in a single year that we actually want how are we gonna get 5?

    And JUCO? Holy hell Miguel, who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? How many JUCO OL recruits in the entire country could even be options in any given year?
    Every single year there are a handful of JUCO OL starting the Pac12, Alabama uses JUCO OL, Oklahoma does as well. The last 2 years there have been JUCO OL on the all conference 1st team(Bolles from Utah and Dahl from WSU)

    Who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? Corey Dillon?

    As @Houhusky said - UW doesn't admit many JC transfer/players. Year to year UW probably has the fewest in the league.

    I was surprised that Pete went after Rodriquez.

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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Might as well not even play the games next year since our OLine is going to be so bad.
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,749
    We're? not gonna attempt to sign any JUCOs cuz Petersen knows it's a waste of time and energy, if he wants to build a program. If u don't understand that, I can't help you.
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,749
    EwaDawg said:

    KobeStan said:

    FremontTroll said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    KobeStan said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    The fuck are we doing at OL?

    The numbers workout fine as long as we get 5 next class with 1 or 2 being JUCO.
    Are you fucking retarded?
    Relax go look at the roster breakdown for other teams 14-16 OL is the norm.
    We are going to have fucking 14 next year and half of them have already been passed by younger players.
    If we were an SEC team we would make those older players transfer and we would be taking 4 guys in this class instead of just 2 but thats not and never will be how Pete operates. Like I said 4 or 5 next year(2 being JUCOs) and we're in a GREAT place.
    We cant sign three OL in a single year that we actually want how are we gonna get 5?

    And JUCO? Holy hell Miguel, who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? How many JUCO OL recruits in the entire country could even be options in any given year?
    Every single year there are a handful of JUCO OL starting the Pac12, Alabama uses JUCO OL, Oklahoma does as well. The last 2 years there have been JUCO OL on the all conference 1st team(Bolles from Utah and Dahl from WSU)

    Who was the last JUCO contributor at UW at any position? Corey Dillon?

    As @Houhusky said - UW doesn't admit many JC transfer/players. Year to year UW probably has the fewest in the league.

    I was surprised that Pete went after Rodriquez.

    Kai Ellis... but still.
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  • iDawg
    iDawg Member Posts: 132
    Before I find some rope and a chair regarding the OL, you have to think either Drew or Will will make a move to this unit.

    Where have you gone Joe Toledo?

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The problem w the OL recruiting is that it is the hardest to unbury yourself from

    The hardest part is that there just isn't the surplus of awesome prospects like there is at the skill positions.

    You actually have to beat other schools at it.
    Which is why you need a coach there that can recruit out of a wet paper bag
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,749
    iDawg said:

    Before I find some rope and a chair regarding the OL, you have to think either Drew or Will will make a move to this unit.

    Where have you gone Joe Toledo?

    Who?
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