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One elite QB away

Seeing what Sam Darnold did, I can't help but think we may be just one elite QB away from being able to compete on almost even ground against the likes of BAMA.

BTW, I wonder Browning ever led a team to victory in the last 2 minutes of a game when his team is behind? I knew he didn't for UW so far (the Zona game doesn't count because we were not behind and Lavon and Pattis did most of the work on that last drive). My guess is he never did in high school either. Darnold did it, Eason did as a freshman. Fuck, even Troy randomly accurate Williams did it against USC -- not that I ever want to have him than Jake for our team but in crunch time, he sure showed more balls than Browning.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    If only we had the Pac-12 player of the year

    Jake benefited from having Ross around. Ross made our whole offense look potent. With him leaving we will average 10 points less.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

    Roberts and Watty might turn out ok but I'm looking for the guy who has to stop and adjust his package every few steps he takes because he's got swag and his balls are so big. The kind of guy who walks in the first day, smiles in the Lockeroom and then goes out and rips your tits off and takes a swing at you if you get offended.

    He's the kind of guy you motherfuck in practice but when the games start, you're glad he's on your side. He's the guy who punches opposing DL and LBs in the dick and doesn't get caught. He's the guy who knows when to take selective cheap shot at the opposing DL who ran past one of our younger lineman, sacked our QB, and is dancing around in the backfield. He's smart enough to do it early in the game so it doesn't hurt his team.

    I'm not sure that guy is on our roster today.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

    Roberts and Watty might turn out ok but I'm looking for the guy who has to stop and adjust his package every few steps he takes because he's got swag and his balls are so big. The kind of guy who walks in the first day, smiles in the Lockeroom and then goes out and rips your tits off and takes a swing at you if you get offended.

    He's the kind of guy you motherfuck in practice but when the games start, you're glad he's on your side. He's the guy who punches opposing DL and LBs in the dick and doesn't get caught. He's the guy who knows when to take selective cheap shot at the opposing DL who ran past one of our younger lineman, sacked our QB, and is dancing around in the backfield. He's smart enough to do it early in the game so it doesn't hurt his team.

    I'm not sure that guy is on our roster today.
    Hard to find a OKG with that type a trait. I am all for what you want. I just don't think Peterman will offer player like that.
  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    If only we had the Pac-12 player of the year

    Jake benefited from having Ross around. Ross made our whole offense look potent. With him leaving we will average 10 points less.
    Hi, Kim!!!
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    CaptainPJ said:

    If only we had the Pac-12 player of the year

    Jake benefited from having Ross around. Ross made our whole offense look potent. With him leaving we will average 10 points less.
    Hi, Kim!!!
    HEYYYYY!!!
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

    Roberts and Watty might turn out ok but I'm looking for the guy who has to stop and adjust his package every few steps he takes because he's got swag and his balls are so big. The kind of guy who walks in the first day, smiles in the Lockeroom and then goes out and rips your tits off and takes a swing at you if you get offended.

    He's the kind of guy you motherfuck in practice but when the games start, you're glad he's on your side. He's the guy who punches opposing DL and LBs in the dick and doesn't get caught. He's the guy who knows when to take selective cheap shot at the opposing DL who ran past one of our younger lineman, sacked our QB, and is dancing around in the backfield. He's smart enough to do it early in the game so it doesn't hurt his team.

    I'm not sure that guy is on our roster today.
    Hard to find a OKG with that type a trait. I am all for what you want. I just don't think Peterman will offer player like that.
    Disagree. Our mystery Guard is a team first guy who hates losing more than he likes winning. A good student. Articulate and well mannered in public. He's the kind of young man all the older women in the AD wish their sons could be like and the one the uber diners want sitting at their banquet table telling sanitized tales of how the Dawgs won the big game.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

    Roberts and Watty might turn out ok but I'm looking for the guy who has to stop and adjust his package every few steps he takes because he's got swag and his balls are so big. The kind of guy who walks in the first day, smiles in the Lockeroom and then goes out and rips your tits off and takes a swing at you if you get offended.

    He's the kind of guy you motherfuck in practice but when the games start, you're glad he's on your side. He's the guy who punches opposing DL and LBs in the dick and doesn't get caught. He's the guy who knows when to take selective cheap shot at the opposing DL who ran past one of our younger lineman, sacked our QB, and is dancing around in the backfield. He's smart enough to do it early in the game so it doesn't hurt his team.

    I'm not sure that guy is on our roster today.
    Hard to find a OKG with that type a trait. I am all for what you want. I just don't think Peterman will offer player like that.
    Disagree. Our mystery Guard is a team first guy who hates losing more than he likes winning. A good student. Articulate and well mannered in public. He's the kind of young man all the older women in the AD wish their sons could be like and the one the uber diners want sitting at their banquet table telling sanitized tales of how the Dawgs won the big game.
    I think you are forgetting that Strausser is our coach. I don't think he can close the deal.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I'd rather have a pair of 6'4 310 pound road grading Guards, a pair of 6'2 230 pound healthy thumpers at linebacker, and a pair of beastly edge assassins. Then we can upgrade Brownsocks.

    As much of a shitty recruiter Chris Strausser is, I think he will develop Wattenberg and Roberts (please god let this be true). We might have decent OL next year, if those 2 are our starting guards.

    Victor and Keishawn will be back.

    I curious to see how our edge guys develop. From the pictures/videos I have seen, Potoa'e, Warren, Rice, and Pulu looked physically ready to play that position (whether they can play is another story).

    You might get your wish

    Roberts and Watty might turn out ok but I'm looking for the guy who has to stop and adjust his package every few steps he takes because he's got swag and his balls are so big. The kind of guy who walks in the first day, smiles in the Lockeroom and then goes out and rips your tits off and takes a swing at you if you get offended.

    He's the kind of guy you motherfuck in practice but when the games start, you're glad he's on your side. He's the guy who punches opposing DL and LBs in the dick and doesn't get caught. He's the guy who knows when to take selective cheap shot at the opposing DL who ran past one of our younger lineman, sacked our QB, and is dancing around in the backfield. He's smart enough to do it early in the game so it doesn't hurt his team.

    I'm not sure that guy is on our roster today.
    You mean ... we need a few Olin Kreutz types on the team?

    Not sure if Petersen would go for that ...
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Penn State had ONE sack and ONE hurry on Darnold.

    Give Browning that level of protection and he'll kill it.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Penn State had ONE sack and ONE hurry on Darnold.

    Give Browning that level of protection and he'll kill it.

    If you can't see the difference in arm strength and cajones, there's not much I can do for you.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Darnold is the truth no doubt. Don't mean to insinuate anything else. But, it's my opinion that if Browning ever starts getting USC level protection consistently, his performance will increase
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    I like to pretend Nick Harris isn't going to start next year because he played poorly against Alabama.

    I hope Nick can go beastmode this offseason. I absolutely love that kids grit. I will forever think it was stupid though that a 260 pound freshman had to start this year. But if he can get up to 285 and keep his moxie, we might have something with him. Kid has huge balls. You can't teach that. He has got to get bigger though.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Swaye said:

    I like to pretend Nick Harris isn't going to start next year because he played poorly against Alabama.

    I hope Nick can go beastmode this offseason. I absolutely love that kids grit. I will forever think it was stupid though that a 260 pound freshman had to start this year. But if he can get up to 285 and keep his moxie, we might have something with him. Kid has huge balls. You can't teach that. He has got to get bigger though.
    That's some old, rich, and white speak right there. I like it! Next time work in "plucky" as that also describes Harris.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    AEB said:

    Swaye said:

    I like to pretend Nick Harris isn't going to start next year because he played poorly against Alabama.

    I hope Nick can go beastmode this offseason. I absolutely love that kids grit. I will forever think it was stupid though that a 260 pound freshman had to start this year. But if he can get up to 285 and keep his moxie, we might have something with him. Kid has huge balls. You can't teach that. He has got to get bigger though.
    That's some old, rich, and white speak right there. I like it! Next time work in "plucky" as that also describes Harris.
    I only know moxie because the government was too cheap to get us cokes on the res and instead shipped in Moxie by the truckload. Cheap ass pisswater flavored with sugar.

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,328 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    AEB said:

    Swaye said:

    I like to pretend Nick Harris isn't going to start next year because he played poorly against Alabama.

    I hope Nick can go beastmode this offseason. I absolutely love that kids grit. I will forever think it was stupid though that a 260 pound freshman had to start this year. But if he can get up to 285 and keep his moxie, we might have something with him. Kid has huge balls. You can't teach that. He has got to get bigger though.
    That's some old, rich, and white speak right there. I like it! Next time work in "plucky" as that also describes Harris.
    I only know moxie because the government was too cheap to get us cokes on the res and instead shipped in Moxie by the truckload. Cheap ass pisswater flavored with sugar.

    image
    Those are some serious rape eyes.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    AEB said:

    Swaye said:

    I like to pretend Nick Harris isn't going to start next year because he played poorly against Alabama.

    I hope Nick can go beastmode this offseason. I absolutely love that kids grit. I will forever think it was stupid though that a 260 pound freshman had to start this year. But if he can get up to 285 and keep his moxie, we might have something with him. Kid has huge balls. You can't teach that. He has got to get bigger though.
    That's some old, rich, and white speak right there. I like it! Next time work in "plucky" as that also describes Harris.
    I only know moxie because the government was too cheap to get us cokes on the res and instead shipped in Moxie by the truckload. Cheap ass pisswater flavored with sugar.

    image
    Those are some serious rape eyes.
    I studied it for years to get the look just right.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    doogie said:

    Darnold is the truth no doubt. Don't mean to insinuate anything else. But, it's my opinion that if Browning ever starts getting USC level protection consistently, his performance will increase

    This type of level headed reasoning doesn't go over well in these parts.

  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    doogie said:

    Penn State had ONE sack and ONE hurry on Darnold.

    Give Browning that level of protection and he'll kill it.

    If you can't see the difference in arm strength and cajones, there's not much I can do for you.
    As mentioned adnauseum, Browning is lethal at intermediate throws. Pettis, Ross, Mclatchery, were so good at creating yards after catch there really wouldn't be much reason to dial up 25 yard plus throws. That's when his accuracy dipped dramatically.

    There is no question elite pass protection would improve Browning's game.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    doogie said:

    Penn State had ONE sack and ONE hurry on Darnold.

    Give Browning that level of protection and he'll kill it.

    If you can't see the difference in arm strength and cajones, there's not much I can do for you.
    As mentioned adnauseum, Browning is lethal at intermediate throws. Pettis, Ross, Mclatchery, were so good at creating yards after catch there really wouldn't be much reason to dial up 25 yard plus throws. That's when his accuracy dipped dramatically.

    There is no question elite pass protection would improve Browning's game.
    We agree. I think Jake could be devastating with elite protection, but I think we also agree he isn't getting elite protection next year, or likely the year after. OS the issue to me is to scheme it....whether short passes, rolling pocket...I have no idea, but my biggest issues with the team are that against elite defenses he gets rattled and then sucks, and we do not have an elite OL to fix that, so we must scheme for it, and Smiff is too stupid to figure out how to do it. In closing, can we just light Smiff on fire?
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Swaye said:

    jecornel said:

    doogie said:

    Penn State had ONE sack and ONE hurry on Darnold.

    Give Browning that level of protection and he'll kill it.

    If you can't see the difference in arm strength and cajones, there's not much I can do for you.
    As mentioned adnauseum, Browning is lethal at intermediate throws. Pettis, Ross, Mclatchery, were so good at creating yards after catch there really wouldn't be much reason to dial up 25 yard plus throws. That's when his accuracy dipped dramatically.

    There is no question elite pass protection would improve Browning's game.
    We agree. I think Jake could be devastating with elite protection, but I think we also agree he isn't getting elite protection next year, or likely the year after. OS the issue to me is to scheme it....whether short passes, rolling pocket...I have no idea, but my biggest issues with the team are that against elite defenses he gets rattled and then sucks, and we do not have an elite OL to fix that, so we must scheme for it, and Smiff is too stupid to figure out how to do it. In closing, can we just light Smiff on fire?
    I'm certainly full agreement about Smith. He is without question the weakest link in the coaching staff. Never was a fan of him coming with Pete from Boise.

    UW virtually beat the same USC team on the road against a senior QB who actually looked decent in the NFL this year shockingly. UW had chances to win at home this year, but simply didn't get it done. Im Telling you the vibe wasn't right for the team that day. Something was off.