The "Powerful" SEC
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Steve and Puppy get it.
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You realize at the power 5 schools the revenue generated from football is probably 100 fold the "free tuition" right?RaceBannon said:
By not being a part of it because they get n education for playing footballThomasFremont said:
Football players correlate to total student loan debt how exactly?RaceBannon said:
I know you are being sarcastic but college football players worthless college education is worth 1.3 trillion dollars of debt for student loans.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like college football players?PurpleThrobber said:
They couldn't hold onto their slaves. How do you expect them to hold onto a football?Tequilla said:It's not a means to say that Alabama isn't good or that we're better ...
What it is intended to say/show is that when looking at Alabama's numbers, I do think that you have to take some of it with a grain of salt given that the other teams in the conference are a dumpster fire. I'm amused by this thought that Auburn is going to give Oklahoma a close game ... let's just say I'll be interested.
In general, my thoughts about the SEC as a whole is that it's not uncommon for them to run 9-10 guys up within 5-7 yards of the line of scrimmage. There's a lot of 1 yard and a cloud of dust as a result of how aggressive they are. On the other hand, there are a lot of big play opportunities that result from that ... particularly in the passing game. The SEC doesn't have a lot of good QBs in the league ... simple truth. Another thing that I see with the league and their defenses is that a lot of those big plays are created because of simply blown assignments ... motion can really fuck with them.
Turnovers are huge in the SEC ... occur at a far higher level than in the PAC.
Now if Bernie had made college free that scholarship would be worthless -
Ironic considering how poorly the "9 win" teams from the PAC12 played this year out of conference. You say the SEC is overhyped, yet Colorado was in the top 10...SteveSuckisian said:SEC is an overhyped pile of dung created by ESPN/CBS
Meanwhile, 8 win UT beat 9 win Nebraska. 7 win LSU beat the ever loving crap out of Louisville. 8 win UGA beat TCU. Crappy Florida is currently beating Iowa.
The only 8 win SEC team to lose so far this bowl season is a 33-28 loss by TAMU.
Maybe ESPN fabricated all these wins? Maybe they fabricated the SEC's 9-2 bowl record last year?
How about our losses? 7-5 Arkansas plays the (9-3) ACC division champ and blows a 24 point lead. AWFUL 6-6 South Carolina goes to OT against 10-2 USF. 7-5 UK loses to Ga Tech, and Vandy is Vandy.
The SEC East sucks. The SEC West is unrivaled in college football. -
Let's turn this on its side ...Secfans said:
Ironic considering how poorly the "9 win" teams from the PAC12 played this year out of conference. You say the SEC is overhyped, yet Colorado was in the top 10...SteveSuckisian said:SEC is an overhyped pile of dung created by ESPN/CBS
Meanwhile, 8 win UT beat 9 win Nebraska. 7 win LSU beat the ever loving crap out of Louisville. 8 win UGA beat TCU. Crappy Florida is currently beating Iowa.
The only 8 win SEC team to lose so far this bowl season is a 33-28 loss by TAMU.
Maybe ESPN fabricated all these wins? Maybe they fabricated the SEC's 9-2 bowl record last year?
How about our losses? 7-5 Arkansas plays the (9-3) ACC division champ and blows a 24 point lead. AWFUL 6-6 South Carolina goes to OT against 10-2 USF. 7-5 UK loses to Ga Tech, and Vandy is Vandy.
The SEC East sucks. The SEC West is unrivaled in college football.
The most overrated conference this year was the Big 10 ... 69-0 the last 2 years in the CFP
Nebraska was trash (remember they should have lost to a shit Oregon team) and played without a number of key players including their QB ... credit to Tennessee for winning but I wouldn't put that up as some kind of verification of how great the SEC was.
LSU to me is clearly the 2nd best team in the SEC ... Louisville became very disinterested once they fell out of the national picture ... also a TERRIBLE matchup for Louisville since the dirty secret nobody has talked about is that Lamar Jackson really isn't good at being a passing QB if he can't run around ... the book is kinda out on him. But that's a really good win.
Georgia beating TCU? That's a game between 2 very underachieving football teams. TCU sucks this year led by the fact that Kenny Hill is an absolute shit QB. Again, wouldn't be using that as a verification of the SEC.
Florida beating Iowa? Besides Iowa being an above average Big 10 team, it's the same team that lost to North Dakota St or whoever the power is from D2.
The comments still stand regarding the fact that the SEC has not had a great year this year and the QB play is definitely below par.
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO -
Wasn't LSU 7-4 and didn't they lose to a Big Ten team?
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Texas a&m 31- ucla 24Tequilla said:
Let's turn this on its side ...Secfans said:
Ironic considering how poorly the "9 win" teams from the PAC12 played this year out of conference. You say the SEC is overhyped, yet Colorado was in the top 10...SteveSuckisian said:SEC is an overhyped pile of dung created by ESPN/CBS
Meanwhile, 8 win UT beat 9 win Nebraska. 7 win LSU beat the ever loving crap out of Louisville. 8 win UGA beat TCU. Crappy Florida is currently beating Iowa.
The only 8 win SEC team to lose so far this bowl season is a 33-28 loss by TAMU.
Maybe ESPN fabricated all these wins? Maybe they fabricated the SEC's 9-2 bowl record last year?
How about our losses? 7-5 Arkansas plays the (9-3) ACC division champ and blows a 24 point lead. AWFUL 6-6 South Carolina goes to OT against 10-2 USF. 7-5 UK loses to Ga Tech, and Vandy is Vandy.
The SEC East sucks. The SEC West is unrivaled in college football.
The most overrated conference this year was the Big 10 ... 69-0 the last 2 years in the CFP
Nebraska was trash (remember they should have lost to a shit Oregon team) and played without a number of key players including their QB ... credit to Tennessee for winning but I wouldn't put that up as some kind of verification of how great the SEC was.
LSU to me is clearly the 2nd best team in the SEC ... Louisville became very disinterested once they fell out of the national picture ... also a TERRIBLE matchup for Louisville since the dirty secret nobody has talked about is that Lamar Jackson really isn't good at being a passing QB if he can't run around ... the book is kinda out on him. But that's a really good win.
Georgia beating TCU? That's a game between 2 very underachieving football teams. TCU sucks this year led by the fact that Kenny Hill is an absolute shit QB. Again, wouldn't be using that as a verification of the SEC.
Florida beating Iowa? Besides Iowa being an above average Big 10 team, it's the same team that lost to North Dakota St or whoever the power is from D2.
The comments still stand regarding the fact that the SEC has not had a great year this year and the QB play is definitely below par.
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO
Georgia 33-"dangerous" North Carolina 24
Bama 52-USC 6
Bama 24-wash 7
Sad thing is I still agree with you, sec is down, just still better than most. Only conference better this year is prob acc though.
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Colorado went 0-4 against any team with a pulse. North Carolina got wrecked by a pretty bad UGA team. USC may beat PSU, but we still don't know anything about USC. Outside of UW, their resurgence coincided with like 6 wins over teams who averaged 4 wins this season.Tequilla said:
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO
Indiana had a losing record in a trash league. And didn't have their HC. There's no honor in that win if you're trying to make the argument Utah is a good team.
UW may have given Alabama a better game, but they're still not in the same league as Alabama - but easily the class of the PAC 12.
I'm not saying the SEC isn't down compared to SEC years prior. But relative to the rest of the country, it's still superior, especially the west. Everyone is down.
Florida and Georgia suck though. They really really do. Which really just furthers my point - as bad as they are, they are still winning their bowl games.
For what it's worth, I think UW beats UF or UGA by 3 TDs or more. They're better coached than either, and have significantly better skill players.
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Dude, agree UW beats ga by 3td but no way do the score that many on fla defense. They are only a hair behind Bama defense. Fla has any offense at all they are top 10.Secfans said:
Colorado went 0-4 against any team with a pulse. North Carolina got wrecked by a pretty bad UGA team. USC may beat PSU, but we still don't know anything about USC. Outside of UW, their resurgence coincided with like 6 wins over teams who averaged 4 wins this season.Tequilla said:
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO
Indiana had a losing record in a trash league. And didn't have their HC. There's no honor in that win if you're trying to make the argument Utah is a good team.
UW may have given Alabama a better game, but they're still not in the same league as Alabama - but easily the class of the PAC 12.
I'm not saying the SEC isn't down compared to SEC years prior. But relative to the rest of the country, it's still superior, especially the west. Everyone is down.
Florida and Georgia suck though. They really really do. Which really just furthers my point - as bad as they are, they are still winning their bowl games.
For what it's worth, I think UW beats UF or UGA by 3 TDs or more. They're better coached than either, and have significantly better skill players. -
Not sure if you got the memo ... but UCLA sucksSedici said:
Texas a&m 31- ucla 24Tequilla said:
Let's turn this on its side ...Secfans said:
Ironic considering how poorly the "9 win" teams from the PAC12 played this year out of conference. You say the SEC is overhyped, yet Colorado was in the top 10...SteveSuckisian said:SEC is an overhyped pile of dung created by ESPN/CBS
Meanwhile, 8 win UT beat 9 win Nebraska. 7 win LSU beat the ever loving crap out of Louisville. 8 win UGA beat TCU. Crappy Florida is currently beating Iowa.
The only 8 win SEC team to lose so far this bowl season is a 33-28 loss by TAMU.
Maybe ESPN fabricated all these wins? Maybe they fabricated the SEC's 9-2 bowl record last year?
How about our losses? 7-5 Arkansas plays the (9-3) ACC division champ and blows a 24 point lead. AWFUL 6-6 South Carolina goes to OT against 10-2 USF. 7-5 UK loses to Ga Tech, and Vandy is Vandy.
The SEC East sucks. The SEC West is unrivaled in college football.
The most overrated conference this year was the Big 10 ... 69-0 the last 2 years in the CFP
Nebraska was trash (remember they should have lost to a shit Oregon team) and played without a number of key players including their QB ... credit to Tennessee for winning but I wouldn't put that up as some kind of verification of how great the SEC was.
LSU to me is clearly the 2nd best team in the SEC ... Louisville became very disinterested once they fell out of the national picture ... also a TERRIBLE matchup for Louisville since the dirty secret nobody has talked about is that Lamar Jackson really isn't good at being a passing QB if he can't run around ... the book is kinda out on him. But that's a really good win.
Georgia beating TCU? That's a game between 2 very underachieving football teams. TCU sucks this year led by the fact that Kenny Hill is an absolute shit QB. Again, wouldn't be using that as a verification of the SEC.
Florida beating Iowa? Besides Iowa being an above average Big 10 team, it's the same team that lost to North Dakota St or whoever the power is from D2.
The comments still stand regarding the fact that the SEC has not had a great year this year and the QB play is definitely below par.
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO
Georgia 33-"dangerous" North Carolina 24
Bama 52-USC 6
Bama 24-wash 7
Sad thing is I still agree with you, sec is down, just still better than most. Only conference better this year is prob acc though.
Georgia beat North Carolina comparably to Stanford beating North Carolina without their best player ... so whatever there.
Using Alabama in anything compared to the rest of the SEC isn't anything ... talking about the SEC being down has nothing to do with Alabama ... has to do with the other 13 teams. -
Really I think the only thing proved this year is that there aren't a lot of elite teams in college football this year ...Secfans said:
Colorado went 0-4 against any team with a pulse. North Carolina got wrecked by a pretty bad UGA team. USC may beat PSU, but we still don't know anything about USC. Outside of UW, their resurgence coincided with like 6 wins over teams who averaged 4 wins this season.Tequilla said:
And as for the PAC, Colorado got whipped and exposed as a team that overplayed their talent level ... Utah beat a semi-dangerous Indiana team ... Stanford beat a dangerous North Carolina team ... I expect USC will clown stomp Pedo St ... and Washington probably gave Alabama a better game than a lot of SEC people thought ...
Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else in the SEC ... the rest of the SEC is up and down mediocre IMO
Indiana had a losing record in a trash league. And didn't have their HC. There's no honor in that win if you're trying to make the argument Utah is a good team.
UW may have given Alabama a better game, but they're still not in the same league as Alabama - but easily the class of the PAC 12.
I'm not saying the SEC isn't down compared to SEC years prior. But relative to the rest of the country, it's still superior, especially the west. Everyone is down.
Florida and Georgia suck though. They really really do. Which really just furthers my point - as bad as they are, they are still winning their bowl games.
For what it's worth, I think UW beats UF or UGA by 3 TDs or more. They're better coached than either, and have significantly better skill players.
There's Alabama ... then Clemson depending on which one shows up from there ...
I would say that Washington is probably the 3rd best team in the country ... but they are vulnerable in certain areas ... any team not named Alabama and Clemson would have to play their A game to win ... and really only the teams that could beat Washington are the teams that have the right defensive pieces to slow down the offense.
The underbelly in most of the leagues this year aren't particularly strong ... don't care what conference we're talking about.

