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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Matchups never matter ... and there's no question the end of the year USC >>>>>>>>>>> start of year SC
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Ha,
    http://www.tonysoftli.com/about-tony-softli/

    Just called WASHINGTON win. Says, national media lazy, wrong in much of their analysis, overrating Alabama talent while under rating Washington talent.

  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Probably the opposite of what USC did when they lost by 17 to a team UW beat 44-6. CHRIST.

    myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Washington&loser=Alabama&year=2016&method=2

    http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Alabama&loser=Washington&year=2016&method=2
    You missed the point.
    The link you posted was clearly stupid
    Yes.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited December 2016
    Tequilla said:

    Matchups never matter ... and there's no question the end of the year USC >>>>>>>>>>> start of year SC

    You're like a long winded version of more_cock in this thread. There is nothing new for you to analyze or give an opinion on. The thread is 7 fucking pages with at least a page by you, and that's not counting words.
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    Tequilla said:



    It's the worst game UW played all year by a wide margin ... in the long run, probably good for them to have gone through it

    Honest question, not being a dick.

    Isn't it somewhat telling that the "worst game UW played all year" coincided with the only really good team you played all year? This isn't an "SEC good, PAC bad" comment, as Bama played their share of turds this season. But you only faced one good team this year (no Colorado doesn't count).

    I ask this because we're having a really hard time giving this UW team proper context. Like 2014 Ohio St, it's so hard to know who this team is because on one hand, your schedule was seriously trash...on the other hand, you wrecked your entire schedule. People don't understand how hard it is to play a 13 game schedule and have 1 loss and one other game that was at all in doubt.

    You can't help that other teams on your schedule sucked. All you could do is go out and take care of business. But the showing against USC would have me wondering if that game was the result of finally playing a good team and that's who UW really is, or if it was just a bad day.

    I tend to think it's the latter, it's just so hard to tell.

  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Tequilla said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Nothing. I 100% fully believe we handed them the game with terrible offensive playcalling. USC was playing well and have a lot of talent. They played a good game with good players but did not dominate. The defense held them to 24 points despite spending all day on the field. The issue was our offense was asked to only do the things they couldn't do.

    We barely ran the ball, and when asked to they were lateral runs. USC, like Alabama, is too fast and athletic to run lateral on. After a few failed, bad run calls, the run game was abandoned.

    We put ourselves behind early by trying to force trick plays and deep balls. USC was too athletic to get away with forcing trick plays. Like everyone other than our offensive coordinator knows you have to set those up through actually passing football first. He was told that teams with explosive plays win but he does not understand that is correlative, not casual, so he tries to manufacture them. Same thing goes for deep balls. Browning is not good at deep balls but he was asked to throw them early and often. John ross can run circles beneath an under thrown deep ball against Cal but not a team like USC or Bama. Deep balls were a constant play call the second half, getting increasingly desperate.

    The key to beating USC for us was to stick to our strengths, take what was given, and only go for a big play once it was properly set up. We did nothing of the sort though.
    The thing I think that you are missing is that setting up the run sets up other plays later in the game. When the run game is nullified it hampers the OC and disrupts the offensive game plan. If a team becomes one demensional they are a lot easier to beat
    Seriously? It's easier to defend one dimensional offenses?

    We were never in a position through 3 quarters where we had to abandon the run. Even if it is just picking up 2 or 3 you have to be willing to stick with it to keep a defense honest. Lavon Coleman I believe had 2 carries during the game.

    The other thing not mentioned is that was the week Jeff Tedford (our offensive consultant) took the Fresno job ... my guess is that Pete has had more of a hand in the game planning since the USC game
    This. The oc shut down the run, not usc. We never attempted to establish it. Jonathan SmithFS wanted to use trick plays to set up the run but when trick plays and deep balls didn't work be kept pushing them. At no point did we ever make a real effort to establish a run to have it shut down. USC didn't have to make us one dimensional because we only attacked one dimensionally
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Probably the opposite of what USC did when they lost by 17 to a team UW beat 44-6. CHRIST.

    myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Washington&loser=Alabama&year=2016&method=2

    http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Alabama&loser=Washington&year=2016&method=2
    You missed the point.
    I think you are trying to down play the common opponent point. The link you posted was clearly stupid because Bama beat the holy hell out of Mississippi State. Mississippi State also didn't have Chad Kelly. I know you all will harp on USC changing QBs, but QBs don't play defense. They just couldn't stop Bama.
    They started 1-3 and finished without losing another game. That's a different team on both offense and defense.

    With that said there was still no excuse for that loss, it was our worst performance of the year at the wrong time. Poor gameplanning, poor execution, and browning cost us at least 1 maybe 2 td's with his dead arm.
    If 2nd half of the year browning doesn't improve with the time off we have no chance, but I think he will
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,270 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Nothing. I 100% fully believe we handed them the game with terrible offensive playcalling. USC was playing well and have a lot of talent. They played a good game with good players but did not dominate. The defense held them to 24 points despite spending all day on the field. The issue was our offense was asked to only do the things they couldn't do.

    We barely ran the ball, and when asked to they were lateral runs. USC, like Alabama, is too fast and athletic to run lateral on. After a few failed, bad run calls, the run game was abandoned.

    We put ourselves behind early by trying to force trick plays and deep balls. USC was too athletic to get away with forcing trick plays. Like everyone other than our offensive coordinator knows you have to set those up through actually passing football first. He was told that teams with explosive plays win but he does not understand that is correlative, not casual, so he tries to manufacture them. Same thing goes for deep balls. Browning is not good at deep balls but he was asked to throw them early and often. John ross can run circles beneath an under thrown deep ball against Cal but not a team like USC or Bama. Deep balls were a constant play call the second half, getting increasingly desperate.

    The key to beating USC for us was to stick to our strengths, take what was given, and only go for a big play once it was properly set up. We did nothing of the sort though.
    The thing I think that you are missing is that setting up the run sets up other plays later in the game. When the run game is nullified it hampers the OC and disrupts the offensive game plan. If a team becomes one demensional they are a lot easier to beat
    Seriously? It's easier to defend one dimensional offenses?

    We were never in a position through 3 quarters where we had to abandon the run. Even if it is just picking up 2 or 3 you have to be willing to stick with it to keep a defense honest. Lavon Coleman I believe had 2 carries during the game.

    The other thing not mentioned is that was the week Jeff Tedford (our offensive consultant) took the Fresno job ... my guess is that Pete has had more of a hand in the game planning since the USC game
    This. The oc shut down the run, not usc. We never attempted to establish it. Jonathan SmithFS wanted to use trick plays to set up the run but when trick plays and deep balls didn't work be kept pushing them. At no point did we ever make a real effort to establish a run to have it shut down. USC didn't have to make us one dimensional because we only attacked one dimensionally
    The stat line tells part of the story.

    RBs got 17 carries. Browning threw the ball 36 times.

    The rest of the story is that Coleman only had 2 of those carries, both in the first half, and Gaskin only had 4 carries in the second half. UW did not run the ball the last 4 possessions.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Secfans said:

    Tequilla said:



    It's the worst game UW played all year by a wide margin ... in the long run, probably good for them to have gone through it

    Honest question, not being a dick.

    Isn't it somewhat telling that the "worst game UW played all year" coincided with the only really good team you played all year? This isn't an "SEC good, PAC bad" comment, as Bama played their share of turds this season. But you only faced one good team this year (no Colorado doesn't count).

    I ask this because we're having a really hard time giving this UW team proper context. Like 2014 Ohio St, it's so hard to know who this team is because on one hand, your schedule was seriously trash...on the other hand, you wrecked your entire schedule. People don't understand how hard it is to play a 13 game schedule and have 1 loss and one other game that was at all in doubt.

    You can't help that other teams on your schedule sucked. All you could do is go out and take care of business. But the showing against USC would have me wondering if that game was the result of finally playing a good team and that's who UW really is, or if it was just a bad day.

    I tend to think it's the latter, it's just so hard to tell.

    Cherry picking one game is dangerous. Virginia Tech was pretty bad the year Ohio State won the title.

    Ole Miss has given you trouble the past three years. None of those team's were world beaters not is Hugh Freeze a good coach.

    So, the USC loss looks bad considering Alabama beat them 52-3. UW would probably plunger Ole Miss, but I wouldn't think we were beating Alabama because you had a tough time with them.
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44



    So, the USC loss looks bad considering Alabama beat them 52-3. UW would probably plunger Ole Miss, but I wouldn't think we were beating Alabama because you had a tough time with them.

    Oh I'm not thinking that at all. I've already said here that transitive property only works across a body of work, not one isolated game with isolated circumstances. I wasn't asking in relation to how Alabama handled them, but more in the frame of - that's the only good team you played.

    Alabama lost to Ole Miss last year, but played like 10 bowl teams (who went 8-2 or something in their bowls). It's just hard to know who this UW team is considering it's one year removed from 7-6 and played such a bad schedule.

    But like 2014 OSU, outside of the one loss, UW rolled right through their schedule.

  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Probably the opposite of what USC did when they lost by 17 to a team UW beat 44-6. CHRIST.

    myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Washington&loser=Alabama&year=2016&method=2

    http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?sport=CFB&winner=Alabama&loser=Washington&year=2016&method=2
    You missed the point.
    I think you are trying to down play the common opponent point. The link you posted was clearly stupid because Bama beat the holy hell out of Mississippi State. Mississippi State also didn't have Chad Kelly. I know you all will harp on USC changing QBs, but QBs don't play defense. They just couldn't stop Bama.
    USC couldn't stop anybody early in the year. Even Stanford rushed for over 300 yards against USC (13 days later UW held Stanford to 29 yards rushing FWIW). This common opponent/transitive property analysis is beyond pointless.

    Game's in two days. Well see then.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    The USC exhibition game had zero impact on the Huskies season as evidenced by the fact Washington is two games away from winning the National Championship.

    That scrimmage against USC's team speed gave UW an opportunity to prepare for Saturday
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Secfans said:



    So, the USC loss looks bad considering Alabama beat them 52-3. UW would probably plunger Ole Miss, but I wouldn't think we were beating Alabama because you had a tough time with them.

    Oh I'm not thinking that at all. I've already said here that transitive property only works across a body of work, not one isolated game with isolated circumstances. I wasn't asking in relation to how Alabama handled them, but more in the frame of - that's the only good team you played.

    Alabama lost to Ole Miss last year, but played like 10 bowl teams (who went 8-2 or something in their bowls). It's just hard to know who this UW team is considering it's one year removed from 7-6 and played such a bad schedule.

    But like 2014 OSU, outside of the one loss, UW rolled right through their schedule.

    Those Ole Miss teams have talent, but will always be poorly coached and undisciplined. They are more or less the same team every year.

    UW is well coached, disciplined, and also has a lot of talent. There are a lot of future pro's starters on this UW team. That said, you guys are a juggernaut so while I think we can win, I don't really expect to.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Nothing. I 100% fully believe we handed them the game with terrible offensive playcalling. USC was playing well and have a lot of talent. They played a good game with good players but did not dominate. The defense held them to 24 points despite spending all day on the field. The issue was our offense was asked to only do the things they couldn't do.

    We barely ran the ball, and when asked to they were lateral runs. USC, like Alabama, is too fast and athletic to run lateral on. After a few failed, bad run calls, the run game was abandoned.

    We put ourselves behind early by trying to force trick plays and deep balls. USC was too athletic to get away with forcing trick plays. Like everyone other than our offensive coordinator knows you have to set those up through actually passing football first. He was told that teams with explosive plays win but he does not understand that is correlative, not casual, so he tries to manufacture them. Same thing goes for deep balls. Browning is not good at deep balls but he was asked to throw them early and often. John ross can run circles beneath an under thrown deep ball against Cal but not a team like USC or Bama. Deep balls were a constant play call the second half, getting increasingly desperate.

    The key to beating USC for us was to stick to our strengths, take what was given, and only go for a big play once it was properly set up. We did nothing of the sort though.
    Great write up.

    Lemme shorten it up for ya.

    They put a little pressure on our noodle arm QB and he shit the bed.
    It's funny that you decided to fag out HH this week since your shit team is done playing shit football for the year.

    You should go kill yourself before your shit team starts playing shit football again next year.
    This place was fagged out long before I showed.


    You sound stressed...


    You should relax and have a smoke.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    He has to work this week. Cut him a little slack.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    salemcoog said:

    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Nothing. I 100% fully believe we handed them the game with terrible offensive playcalling. USC was playing well and have a lot of talent. They played a good game with good players but did not dominate. The defense held them to 24 points despite spending all day on the field. The issue was our offense was asked to only do the things they couldn't do.

    We barely ran the ball, and when asked to they were lateral runs. USC, like Alabama, is too fast and athletic to run lateral on. After a few failed, bad run calls, the run game was abandoned.

    We put ourselves behind early by trying to force trick plays and deep balls. USC was too athletic to get away with forcing trick plays. Like everyone other than our offensive coordinator knows you have to set those up through actually passing football first. He was told that teams with explosive plays win but he does not understand that is correlative, not casual, so he tries to manufacture them. Same thing goes for deep balls. Browning is not good at deep balls but he was asked to throw them early and often. John ross can run circles beneath an under thrown deep ball against Cal but not a team like USC or Bama. Deep balls were a constant play call the second half, getting increasingly desperate.

    The key to beating USC for us was to stick to our strengths, take what was given, and only go for a big play once it was properly set up. We did nothing of the sort though.
    Great write up.

    Lemme shorten it up for ya.

    They put a little pressure on our noodle arm QB and he shit the bed.
    It's funny that you decided to fag out HH this week since your shit team is done playing shit football for the year.

    You should go kill yourself before your shit team starts playing shit football again next year.
    This place was fagged out long before I showed.


    You sound stressed...


    You should relax and have a smoke.
    Your labia is awfully swollen, cuog.

    Pull it together, or bring back our @beelzebub.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Some light reading for you

    https://www.google.com/search?q=5+reasons+ossai&oq=5+reasons+ossai&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
    Serious question: From your perspective, what did USC do to dominate and control the game earlier this season?
    Nothing. I 100% fully believe we handed them the game with terrible offensive playcalling. USC was playing well and have a lot of talent. They played a good game with good players but did not dominate. The defense held them to 24 points despite spending all day on the field. The issue was our offense was asked to only do the things they couldn't do.

    We barely ran the ball, and when asked to they were lateral runs. USC, like Alabama, is too fast and athletic to run lateral on. After a few failed, bad run calls, the run game was abandoned.

    We put ourselves behind early by trying to force trick plays and deep balls. USC was too athletic to get away with forcing trick plays. Like everyone other than our offensive coordinator knows you have to set those up through actually passing football first. He was told that teams with explosive plays win but he does not understand that is correlative, not casual, so he tries to manufacture them. Same thing goes for deep balls. Browning is not good at deep balls but he was asked to throw them early and often. John ross can run circles beneath an under thrown deep ball against Cal but not a team like USC or Bama. Deep balls were a constant play call the second half, getting increasingly desperate.

    The key to beating USC for us was to stick to our strengths, take what was given, and only go for a big play once it was properly set up. We did nothing of the sort though.
    Great write up.

    Lemme shorten it up for ya.

    They put a little pressure on our noodle arm QB and he shit the bed.
    It's funny that you decided to fag out HH this week since your shit team is done playing shit football for the year.

    You should go kill yourself before your shit team starts playing shit football again next year.
    This place was fagged out long before I showed.


    You sound stressed...


    You should relax and have a smoke.
    You're struggling here.

    You should die and see if that helps.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    I'll take a 2014 Ohio State result
  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098

    H_D said:

    Here is a simple, quick analysis. This game, like all others, comes down to the trenches. If Washington can keep Anderson, Williams, Payne, Tomlinson and Allen from living in the backfield, Washington will be able to move the ball and better control the game. The same goes for Alabama. If they can own the trenches on offense, they can better move the ball and control the clock and dictate what Washington has to do defensively and offensively. Simple

    Totally agree!!! We? average a weight of 332 across the line, and they are ready to dominate the line of scrimmage. MacGeary, Tray Adams, Center, Ossai, Bulyca. These boys have an attitude and are ready to rumble!!!
    Our offensive line is pretty stout too. They are strong and quick. The true indicator will be the speed of Washington's defensive line. Being big is good, but you need the speed to go along with it
    Agree with you 100% my friend. Speed, speed, speed. this is the fastest team Washington has had this century, maybe since 1991! John Ross XIV, Charlie McClutchins, Dwayne Warshington, Azeem Victor, Buttah Baker, Grayson Gunheim, Johnny Durocher, Cody Burns, Ossai, etc. The newbies will be inexperienced but we bring a new dimension that the program has not had in years, speed.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Can I citrus bomb this thread yet?
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    Can I citrus bomb this thread yet?

    Yes
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Secfans said:

    Tequilla said:



    It's the worst game UW played all year by a wide margin ... in the long run, probably good for them to have gone through it

    Honest question, not being a dick.

    Isn't it somewhat telling that the "worst game UW played all year" coincided with the only really good team you played all year? This isn't an "SEC good, PAC bad" comment, as Bama played their share of turds this season. But you only faced one good team this year (no Colorado doesn't count).

    I ask this because we're having a really hard time giving this UW team proper context. Like 2014 Ohio St, it's so hard to know who this team is because on one hand, your schedule was seriously trash...on the other hand, you wrecked your entire schedule. People don't understand how hard it is to play a 13 game schedule and have 1 loss and one other game that was at all in doubt.

    You can't help that other teams on your schedule sucked. All you could do is go out and take care of business. But the showing against USC would have me wondering if that game was the result of finally playing a good team and that's who UW really is, or if it was just a bad day.

    I tend to think it's the latter, it's just so hard to tell.

    Not a dick question at all ...

    I look at things from the perspective of what caused the breakdowns? Was it a talent issue? Or was it an execution issue?

    When I see fundamental issues w Washington's RG position or perhaps plugging holes at OLB that to me is a talent issue that you may not be able to scheme around.

    When looking at poor game planning, bad fundamentals, not getting the right drops in coverage, not coming back to balls leading to INTs, forcing throws, etc ... those are really correctable to me.

    The SC game had a lot more of the latter than the former
  • montyfranklyn
    montyfranklyn Member Posts: 119
    You guys do realize this is basically a home game for Bama don't you?
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    You guys do realize this is basically a home game for Bama don't you?

    How far is Altoona from Tuscaloosa?
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    You guys do realize this is basically a home game for Bama don't you?

    No clue until you mentioned it.

    We all thought Atlanta was in Idaho. Just like you all thought Warshington was Southern Alaska until you found HHB.

    But tell me again how the CFB called this a neutral site matchup?
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    Tequilla said:



    Not a dick question at all ...

    I look at things from the perspective of what caused the breakdowns? Was it a talent issue? Or was it an execution issue?

    When I see fundamental issues w Washington's RG position or perhaps plugging holes at OLB that to me is a talent issue that you may not be able to scheme around.

    When looking at poor game planning, bad fundamentals, not getting the right drops in coverage, not coming back to balls leading to INTs, forcing throws, etc ... those are really correctable to me.

    The SC game had a lot more of the latter than the former

    So, you mentioned game planning, the game was 17-13 heading into the 4th. And yes, you only had 0.6 YPC for the game, but almost all of that was due to sacks.

    Why did UW abandon the run almost completely? Chico had one carry, Gaskin 15. But the most criminal of offenses was Coleman with only 2 carries. He's the type of runner that could actually do well against USC.

    What happened there?

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Jonathan Smith - everything Alabama fans feel about Kiffin we feel about Smith
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Tequilla said:

    Jonathan Smith - everything Alabama fans feel about Kiffin we feel about Smith

    The sum total hatred in the hearts of all the bigoted Alabama fans in the world does not come close to the ire I feel towards Jonathan Smith on a benevolent day.