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  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    Spreadsheets and OOC SOS talk...

    I thought Bama fans knew footbaw???
    Yeah, instead of supporting my positions, I should just say things are the way I see them because I said so.

    How on earth did Wazzou win 7 straight in the PAC12? Tell me more about how bad the SEC is...
  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,454 Founders Club
    Secfans said:

    So, SECFans.com is my website, and I'm the person shown in the video of debate.

    I always say I'm willing to accept negative criticism when it's paired with actual debate. So let's have it...what did we say about Budda that was wrong?

    Here's what we said:

    1) They don't play 180lb safeties in the NFL (they don't). And that he projects as a CB in the NFL (he does). He might be playing around 190 now

    Earl Thomas says hi
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2016
    Alexis said:


    Earl Thomas says hi

    Earl Thomas, the 5'10" 202 pound safety?
    Tequilla said:

    The last comments tell me 1) that you don't understand what we do defensively

    This is particularly interesting coming from someone who thinks we run Stanford's offense...Be honest, you haven't seen Bama play this year outside of the USC game.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,528
    You can't have it both ways. Pac-12 sucks, only 2 good teams and then at the same time use stats to your defense when you're saying why you'll beat UW. If the conference sucks, the stats are invalid. SC was a much better team later in the season. Hope that helps. Maybe review the stats. Your conference sucks except for a few teams this year just like the pac-12 so honestly what do the stats mean? You beat the teams you were supposed to beat and we did, too, except for SC. I could understand using stats to underpin your arguments if we were in the same conference but that's not the case. By the way, I have a comp sci degree and 4.0'd Number Theory and Statistics so I am an ultimate numbers nerd but in this case, quite frankly, the numbers are somewhat irrelevant. So what's Bama's plan going to be to stop the UW offense? What dimension are you going to focus on shutting down? Do you think you can shut down both the run and pass game? Do stats tell you that's the case?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Secfans said:

    Spreadsheets and OOC SOS talk...

    I thought Bama fans knew footbaw???
    Yeah, instead of supporting my positions, I should just say things are the way I see them because I said so.

    How on earth did Wazzou win 7 straight in the PAC12? Tell me more about how bad the SEC is...

    If you don't see the fundamental flaw in cfb stats, we can't fucking help you.

    A cursory glance at the Cuogs schedule will answer your question for you.

    The SEC and the Pac-12 both suck, except for Alabama and UW.

    I hope this helps.
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2016

    You can't have it both ways. Pac-12 sucks, only 2 good teams and then at the same time use stats to your defense when you're saying why you'll beat UW. If the conference sucks, the stats are invalid. SC was a much better team later in the season. Hope that helps. Maybe review the stats. Your conference sucks except for a few teams this year just like the pac-12 so honestly what do the stats mean? You beat the teams you were supposed to beat and we did, too, except for SC. I could understand using stats to underpin your arguments if we were in the same conference but that's not the case. By the way, I have a comp sci degree and 4.0'd Number Theory and Statistics so I am an ultimate numbers nerd but in this case, quite frankly, the numbers are somewhat irrelevant. So what's Bama's plan going to be to stop the UW offense? What dimension are you going to focus on shutting down? Do you think you can shut down both the run and pass game? Do stats tell you that's the case?

    I use opponent average stats. It completely neutralizes the "suck" factor. If you allow what your opponents do, on average, then you suck - regardless of how good or bad they do. Washington doesn't allow them to hit their averages, therefore does not suck. For someone who has a CS degree like I have, you sure are struggling with a basic concept. (That's sarcasm for levity btw...I'm just busting your balls)

    SC was a much "better" team because they played a bunch of trash in their back half of their schedule. They were better under Darnold but they still have a crappy offensive line. Teams don't go from 52-6 to some world beaters within the same season. They still have holes in their non-Adoree secondary areas.

    I've already said that UW's offensive skill players are the best collection Bama has faced this year. I've already conceded that the fast start, especially when paired with Alabama's slow start, is poised to give Alabama trouble.

    Nobody runs on Alabama. Ever. You have two excellent backs that I assume will get more involved in space through the passing game than they will between the tackles. We're giving up 2 yards per carry this year and 40% of opponent average (you give up 82%). I imagine you'll have some success with a set of really good WRs against our patch work secondary. And I imagine you'll have some success matching up against our LB making his first start in replacement of a guy who blew his knee out against Florida.

    You're arguing different things. I can think UW's offense can have success against Alabama while thinking that UW will struggle defending the Alabama run. These too are things that aren't mutually exclusive.

    But seriously, congrats on the 4.0. I hated 100% of my theory math classes with a passion.

  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44


    The SEC and the Pac-12 both suck, except for Alabama and UW.

    I hope this helps.

    Ha, that's actually a level of self-reflection I can appreciate. :)