"Unbiased" Peach Bowl Preview ...
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I was lucky enough to find the Budda shit after about 15 seconds. Basically said Budda is toast (@ 186 pounds) because they have a 240 pound fullback.MisterEm said:You watched that shit, @Tequilla?
C'mon man!
Dude certainly never watched Budda, or MF Jones, or Jo Jo play.
But I digress. You are correct. My grandma could put together a better analysis of the Peach Bowl and we all know she is dead.
Don't know what that dipshit's excuse is.
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I couldn't take more than 15 minutes of it
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So, SECFans.com is my website, and I'm the person shown in the video of debate.
I always say I'm willing to accept negative criticism when it's paired with actual debate. So let's have it...what did we say about Budda that was wrong?
Here's what we said:
1) They don't play 180lb safeties in the NFL (they don't). And that he projects as a CB in the NFL (he does). He might be playing around 190 now but he'd need to add ANOTHER 15 lbs for the NFL and I think it was a lot for him to get to where he is now.
2) UW faces schemes in the PAC12 that often employ 4 or 5 wide sets, relegating Budda to a CB instead of a traditional safety role that we see in the SEC
3) We said Alabama has 240lb RUNNING BACKS, and we do. Not fullbacks. That's a huge difference.
We were rather effusive with our praise of your secondary. Including saying it compared favorably with Florida's - one that has multiple 1st rounders in it. We said, however, that they were more designed to stop a high powered passing attack than a power run game. And they are. You don't see power run in the PAC 12 like it is present in the SEC. And generally the SEC doesn't run a lot of 4 wide with a traditional QB. That's not an insult, that's just scheme.
Allow me to illustrate my point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH5Y5-BNpN0&feature=youtu.be&t=2834
This video shows a play from the PAC12 championship where Colorado has a motioned out WR. Budda FOLLOWS the motion receiver in man coverage presnap during his motion. That /never/ happens with traditional cover 2 high safety play. Nor does that happen in single safety where one is walked up for run support. Budda often, if not mostly, plays a nickel role because of his coverage capabilities and the types of formations Washington sees.
We've also predicted every UW game correctly this year. We had UW slated for the playoffs after week 4. And we were on the Browning for Heisman push in the same week, well before anyone else, especially on the east coast.
I can see from reading this board y'all don't pull any punches. Which is why I figured my introduction here need not be subtle. But if y'all are gonna whine about our stuff, at least bring some analysis to the table
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I apologize for @Tequilla
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Pretty classy way to say "Fuck off, Doog"Secfans said:So, SECFans.com is my website, and I'm the person shown in the video of debate.
I always say I'm willing to accept negative criticism when it's paired with actual debate. So let's have it...what did we say about Budda that was wrong?
Here's what we said:
1) They don't play 180lb safeties in the NFL (they don't). And that he projects as a CB in the NFL (he does). He might be playing around 190 now but he'd need to add ANOTHER 15 lbs for the NFL and I think it was a lot for him to get to where he is now.
2) UW faces schemes in the PAC12 that often employ 4 or 5 wide sets, relegating Budda to a CB instead of a traditional safety role that we see in the SEC
3) We said Alabama has 240lb RUNNING BACKS, and we do. Not fullbacks. That's a huge difference.
We were rather effusive with our praise of your secondary. Including saying it compared favorably with Florida's - one that has multiple 1st rounders in it. We said, however, that they were more designed to stop a high powered passing attack than a power run game. And they are. You don't see power run in the PAC 12 like it is present in the SEC. And generally the SEC doesn't run a lot of 4 wide with a traditional QB. That's not an insult, that's just scheme.
Allow me to illustrate my point:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH5Y5-BNpN0&feature=youtu.be&t=2834
This video shows a play from the PAC12 championship where Colorado has a motioned out WR. Budda FOLLOWS the motion receiver in man coverage presnap during his motion. That /never/ happens with traditional cover 2 high safety play. Nor does that happen in single safety where one is walked up for run support. Budda often, if not mostly, plays a nickel role because of his coverage capabilities and the types of formations Washington sees.
We've also predicted every UW game correctly this year. We had UW slated for the playoffs after week 4. And we were on the Browning for Heisman push in the same week, well before anyone else, especially on the east coast.
I can see from reading this board y'all don't pull any punches. Which is why I figured my introduction here need not be subtle. But if y'all are gonna whine about our stuff, at least bring some analysis to the table -
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TL; DR.Secfans said:So, SECFans.com is my website, and I'm the person shown in the video of debate.
I always say I'm willing to accept negative criticism when it's paired with actual debate. So let's have it...what did we say about Budda that was wrong?
Here's what we said:
1) They don't play 180lb safeties in the NFL (they don't). And that he projects as a CB in the NFL (he does). He might be playing around 190 now but he'd need to add ANOTHER 15 lbs for the NFL and I think it was a lot for him to get to where he is now.
2) UW faces schemes in the PAC12 that often employ 4 or 5 wide sets, relegating Budda to a CB instead of a traditional safety role that we see in the SEC
3) We said Alabama has 240lb RUNNING BACKS, and we do. Not fullbacks. That's a huge difference.
We were rather effusive with our praise of your secondary. Including saying it compared favorably with Florida's - one that has multiple 1st rounders in it. We said, however, that they were more designed to stop a high powered passing attack than a power run game. And they are. You don't see power run in the PAC 12 like it is present in the SEC. And generally the SEC doesn't run a lot of 4 wide with a traditional QB. That's not an insult, that's just scheme.
Allow me to illustrate my point:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH5Y5-BNpN0&feature=youtu.be&t=2834
This video shows a play from the PAC12 championship where Colorado has a motioned out WR. Budda FOLLOWS the motion receiver in man coverage presnap during his motion. That /never/ happens with traditional cover 2 high safety play. Nor does that happen in single safety where one is walked up for run support. Budda often, if not mostly, plays a nickel role because of his coverage capabilities and the types of formations Washington sees.
We've also predicted every UW game correctly this year. We had UW slated for the playoffs after week 4. And we were on the Browning for Heisman push in the same week, well before anyone else, especially on the east coast.
I can see from reading this board y'all don't pull any punches. Which is why I figured my introduction here need not be subtle. But if y'all are gonna whine about our stuff, at least bring some analysis to the table -
Safeties really aren't that critical to stop the run. If we are tackling your RB with our safety frequently, we're already in trouble. Our strategy will be to load the box with our LBs and our DL ( which by the way is very talented ) and stop the run. Can your QB win the game with his arm? SC gave us trouble because 1) We played a bad game and 2) they were very balanced. Stopping the run was not enough. Might be against bama as I think your QB will make mistakes and try to run/scramble That's where the good secondary comes in and Budda's coverage skills. This is actually, all things considered, a pretty good matchup for us. We completely shut down Royce Freeman and Christian McCaffery. This is a hard-hitting defense.
Dawgs win 21-17
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Eh, Freeman had 4.5 YPC against you, and the next week had 0.7 YPC against Cal, then 2.2 YPC against Arizona St. Christian McCaffery and Stanford play in a pretty horrendous offense this year (81st in scoring). They run it OK but they're nothing special.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Safeties really aren't that critical to stop the run. If we are tackling your RB with our safety frequently, we're already in trouble. Our strategy will be to load the box with our LBs and our DL ( which by the way is very talented ) and stop the run. Can your QB win the game with his arm? SC gave us trouble because 1) We played a bad game and 2) they were very balanced. Stopping the run was not enough. Might be against bama as I think your QB will make mistakes and try to run/scramble That's where the good secondary comes in and Budda's coverage skills. This is actually, all things considered, a pretty good matchup for us. We completely shut down Royce Freeman and Christian McCaffery. This is a hard-hitting defense.
Dawgs win 21-17
Jalen has struggled all season throwing it consistently. But he won't have to win it with his arm. He'll have to minimize turnovers. He doesn't need some 300 yard passing game with 4 TDs for Alabama to win. Washington can win this game, but they'll need 35+ to do it. -
We are soft against the run at times. I don't think we can stop their ground game.
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Thankfully Saban hates his best 240 pound running back. #9 could win a Heisman someday
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Actually I think Kiffin hates doing what works. He's obsessed with proving that he can win throwing it 25 times in the first half with a guy who is still learning how to read a defense.RaceBannon said:Thankfully Saban hates his best 240 pound running back. #9 could win a Heisman someday
But Bo Scarborough isn't Alabama's best back. Damien Harris is. 15.3 YPC against USC, 7.5 YPC on the season. He just doesn't get a lot of hype for some reason. -
Yeah no shit. Freeman got killed against UW and took weeks to recover from it. He didn't just turn into a shitty RB.Secfans said:
Eh, Freeman had 4.5 YPC against you, and the next week had 0.7 YPC against Cal, then 2.2 YPC against Arizona St. Christian McCaffery and Stanford play in a pretty horrendous offense this year (81st in scoring). They run it OK but they're nothing special.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Safeties really aren't that critical to stop the run. If we are tackling your RB with our safety frequently, we're already in trouble. Our strategy will be to load the box with our LBs and our DL ( which by the way is very talented ) and stop the run. Can your QB win the game with his arm? SC gave us trouble because 1) We played a bad game and 2) they were very balanced. Stopping the run was not enough. Might be against bama as I think your QB will make mistakes and try to run/scramble That's where the good secondary comes in and Budda's coverage skills. This is actually, all things considered, a pretty good matchup for us. We completely shut down Royce Freeman and Christian McCaffery. This is a hard-hitting defense.
Dawgs win 21-17
Jalen has struggled all season throwing it consistently. But he won't have to win it with his arm. He'll have to minimize turnovers. He doesn't need some 300 yard passing game with 4 TDs for Alabama to win. Washington can win this game, but they'll need 35+ to do it.
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You know why freeman struggled in the next 2 games? BECAUSE WE CRUSHED HIS SOUL. He got knocked out of the game with a brutal hit and took a few games to get back into form. He didn't do shit against us. I was in eugene and was drunk off my ass but could see it plain as day.
We will stop the run. yes, I understand that is a profound statement for you to comprehend but it's going to come down to QB play if you want to score points on offense.Secfans said:
Eh, Freeman had 4.5 YPC against you, and the next week had 0.7 YPC against Cal, then 2.2 YPC against Arizona St. Christian McCaffery and Stanford play in a pretty horrendous offense this year (81st in scoring). They run it OK but they're nothing special.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Safeties really aren't that critical to stop the run. If we are tackling your RB with our safety frequently, we're already in trouble. Our strategy will be to load the box with our LBs and our DL ( which by the way is very talented ) and stop the run. Can your QB win the game with his arm? SC gave us trouble because 1) We played a bad game and 2) they were very balanced. Stopping the run was not enough. Might be against bama as I think your QB will make mistakes and try to run/scramble That's where the good secondary comes in and Budda's coverage skills. This is actually, all things considered, a pretty good matchup for us. We completely shut down Royce Freeman and Christian McCaffery. This is a hard-hitting defense.
Dawgs win 21-17
Jalen has struggled all season throwing it consistently. But he won't have to win it with his arm. He'll have to minimize turnovers. He doesn't need some 300 yard passing game with 4 TDs for Alabama to win. Washington can win this game, but they'll need 35+ to do it. -
53 seconds!DoogieMcDoogerson said:You know why freeman struggled in the next 2 games? BECAUSE WE CRUSHED HIS SOUL. He got knocked out of the game with a brutal hit and took a few games to get back into form. He didn't do shit against us. I was in eugene and was drunk off my ass but could see it plain as day.
We will stop the run. yes, I understand that is a profound statement for you to comprehend but it's going to come down to QB play if you want to score points on offense.Secfans said:
Eh, Freeman had 4.5 YPC against you, and the next week had 0.7 YPC against Cal, then 2.2 YPC against Arizona St. Christian McCaffery and Stanford play in a pretty horrendous offense this year (81st in scoring). They run it OK but they're nothing special.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Safeties really aren't that critical to stop the run. If we are tackling your RB with our safety frequently, we're already in trouble. Our strategy will be to load the box with our LBs and our DL ( which by the way is very talented ) and stop the run. Can your QB win the game with his arm? SC gave us trouble because 1) We played a bad game and 2) they were very balanced. Stopping the run was not enough. Might be against bama as I think your QB will make mistakes and try to run/scramble That's where the good secondary comes in and Budda's coverage skills. This is actually, all things considered, a pretty good matchup for us. We completely shut down Royce Freeman and Christian McCaffery. This is a hard-hitting defense.
Dawgs win 21-17
Jalen has struggled all season throwing it consistently. But he won't have to win it with his arm. He'll have to minimize turnovers. He doesn't need some 300 yard passing game with 4 TDs for Alabama to win. Washington can win this game, but they'll need 35+ to do it.
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Yeah no shit. Freeman got killed against UW and took weeks to recover from it. He didn't just turn into a shitty RB.
That hit was enough to make him suck for a month? I don't think that's accurate. If so, I'm going to really start thinking the PAC 12 is soft. It's more likely that Oregon sucked this year. Like really really bad. And they finally started getting a little bit more continuity and identity under Herbert towards the end of the year - given that Washington was Herbert's first start.
Against the games following Washington he went 15 carries (CAL), 17 carries (ASU), 10 carries + 2 receptions (USC). Which is about average for him to that point in the season.
And if you think Alabama's running game is in any way comparable to Oregon's, you've not watched much football. It's completely different.
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It's hard to watch games and read roster weights.
#whathappensafterweareupby28doesntmatter
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We will stop the run. yes, I understand that is a profound statement for you to comprehend but it's going to come down to QB play if you want to score points on offense.
Actually, you allow 82% of opponent averages rushing the ball. Which is good, it's not elite. But outside of Stanford, who was down two linemen, the decent running teams you faced (Arizona, Utah, Oregon, Oregon St) all hit around their averages (or exceeded them).
Alabama will run for 200+ and exceed 5 YPC.
Again, the game isn't unwinnable for Washington, but you're arguing the wrong thing here. The match up against Alabama's run game isn't good for you. Your offensive skill players against basically anyone is. -
That hit was enough to make him suck for a month? I don't think that's accurate. If so, I'm going to really start thinking the PAC 12 is soft. It's more likely that Oregon sucked this year. Like really really bad. And they finally started getting a little bit more continuity and identity under Herbert towards the end of the year - given that Washington was Herbert's first start.Secfans said:Yeah no shit. Freeman got killed against UW and took weeks to recover from it. He didn't just turn into a shitty RB.
Against the games following Washington he went 15 carries (CAL), 17 carries (ASU), 10 carries + 2 receptions (USC). Which is about average for him to that point in the season.
And if you think Alabama's running game is in any way comparable to Oregon's, you've not watched much football. It's completely different.
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The last comments tell me 1) that you don't understand what we do defensively and 2) as Dennis mentioned it is difficult to watch games and understand what happened
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Did I fucking stutter?
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Stats are for losers. It's like revenge of the nerds in here. I just rolled over to your bama board. You guys are some cocky fucks. "We are so much more talented than them across the board it's pitiful." Seriously, fuck you and your fucking stats and your fucking entitled fans. The best part is Sark is your fucking OC next year. You have no idea how bad that is going to be. We lived through it. Sark is the X-factor in this game if he's giving any input on this game.
Actually, you allow 82% of opponent averages rushing the ball. Which is good, it's not elite. But outside of Stanford, who was down two linemen, the decent running teams you faced (Arizona, Utah, Oregon, Oregon St) all hit around their averages (or exceeded them).Secfans said:We will stop the run. yes, I understand that is a profound statement for you to comprehend but it's going to come down to QB play if you want to score points on offense.
Alabama will run for 200+ and exceed 5 YPC.
Again, the game isn't unwinnable for Washington, but you're arguing the wrong thing here. The match up against Alabama's run game isn't good for you. Your offensive skill players against basically anyone is.
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That hit was enough to make him suck for a month? I don't think that's accurate. If so, I'm going to really start thinking the PAC 12 is soft. It's more likely that Oregon sucked this year. Like really really bad. And they finally started getting a little bit more continuity and identity under Herbert towards the end of the year - given that Washington was Herbert's first start.Secfans said:
Against the games following Washington he went 15 carries (CAL), 17 carries (ASU), 10 carries + 2 receptions (USC). Which is about average for him to that point in the season.
And if you think Alabama's running game is in any way comparable to Oregon's, you've not watched much football. It's completely different.
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Does this guy realize 13 teams in the SEC lost at least four games this year? It's not vastly superior to anything anymore (it never was). "In the SEC, you'll get run over if you don't have at least five NFL players in your front seven." Christ.
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Fast forwarded a few minutes into that video and heard him say our DL is "small". Sure.gif
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No, I think you spoke a perfectly clear incorrect statement.Secfans said:Did I fucking stutter?
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Stats are for losers. It's like revenge of the nerds in here.
Eh. How teams compare against a season full of unit averages is pretty telling. I'm at least supporting my positions with more than 'because I like UW so I really want it to be true'I just rolled over to your bama board. You guys are some cocky fucks.
Yeah, y'all are a big ol sack of humble over here. Wait...Does this guy realize 13 teams in the SEC lost at least four games this year? It's not vastly superior to anything anymore (it never was).
Yeah, nothing says you're a great conference like having a couple of teams who beat everyone, and the entire rest of the conference is trash. And those teams who beat everyone in conference couldn't beat anyone out of conference. Name your big OOC win this year, hell name a good team the PAC12 played competitively out of conference (Eastern Washington loss doesn't count). UCLA's OT loss to TAMU was the best win you had. But Rosen barely played the conf slate this year...
Your South champion got jail sexed by Michigan. Your South runner up lost 52-6 to us. Your best OOC win was Idaho, and your North runner up lost to EWU, Boise, and now Minnesota.
Kentucky has a better OOC win than anyone in the PAC12.I don't think anyone that brags about supported Browning for Heisman should be popping off about incorrect statements.
You missed the point of why I made that comment...like entirely.
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Eh. How teams compare against a season full of unit averages is pretty telling. I'm at least supporting my positions with more than 'because I like UW so I really want it to be true'Secfans said:Stats are for losers. It's like revenge of the nerds in here.
I just rolled over to your bama board. You guys are some cocky fucks.
Yeah, y'all are a big ol sack of humble of here. Wait...Does this guy realize 13 teams in the SEC lost at least four games this year? It's not vastly superior to anything anymore (it never was).
Yeah, nothing says you're a great conference like having a couple of teams who beat everyone, and the entire rest of the conference is trash. And those teams who beat everyone in conference couldn't beat anyone out of conference. Name your big OOC win this year, hell name a good team the PAC12 played competitively out of conference (Eastern Washington loss doesn't count). UCLA's OT loss to TAMU was the best win you had. But Rosen barely played the conf slate this year...
Your South champion got jail sexed by Michigan. Your South runner up lost 52-6 to us. Your best OOC win was Idaho, and your North runner up lost to EWU, Boise, and now Minnesota.
Kentucky has a better OOC win than anyone in the PAC12.
Spreadsheets and OOC SOS talk...
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You've posted a couple of times here without providing any detail. Such is your right, I'm just a visitor. Just seems weird.Tequilla said:The last comments tell me 1) that you don't understand what we do defensively and 2) as Dennis mentioned it is difficult to watch games and understand what happened
You cannot have listened to that 46 minute show and your takeaway was that you don't think we understand what you do defensively. I assume you're conflating my confidence in Alabama's run game having success against your defense with me not understanding what you do defensively. I can think Alabama will do well and still understand what you do completely. They are mutually exclusive.
It isn't difficult to watch games and understand what happened. I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here. Either it's so over the top condescending that I'm not getting it, or it's some inside baseball that I'm not following because of my lack of time here.
