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How the modern recruiting game passed Oregon Ducks by

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Tweeting will solve the Ducks recruiting issues. Yeah that's it.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    People get paid to write that shit?

    Must be a low bar to be a paid sportswriter ...
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,643
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    I love how the author uses the recent commitment of a guy Oregon wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole in previous years as proof that "Taggart has got it"
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    But for a program that celebrated and self-congratulated its own innovation, it's jarring that the downfall came from failing to grasp new-school recruiting tactics.

    Like Grandpa with a new iPhone, Oregon couldn't figure out how it all worked.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    Oregon recruiting tanked because the staff got cocky and didn't think they needed to work at it anymore. Also, Helfrich had zero personality without the genius tag Chip had. Not a great a strategy for national recruiting.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    "I think, especially in 2016 and beyond, that is going to be a huge part of how you recruit a kid," Scout National Director of Recruiting Brandon Huffman said. "How many times have we seen a kid say, 'Where are all my Nebraska followers at? Where are all my Michigan followers at?' I've had kids straight-up tell me a school made a top five because they added more followers. If you aren't doing that, you are going to find yourself on the outside looking in. You are going to get lapped."

    Fuck those pussy recruits.

    Great way to make a life decision!!!!!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840


    But for a program that celebrated and self-congratulated its own innovation, it's jarring that the downfall came from failing to grasp new-school recruiting tactics.

    Like Grandpa Race with a new iPhone, Oregon couldn't figure out how it all worked.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter
    Hookers and blow for recruits transcends all generations.
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    Tequilla said:

    Must be a low bar to be a paid sportswriter ...

    Steve Kelly says hi.

    Oregon recruiting tanked because the staff got cocky and didn't think they needed to work at it anymore.

    Seems like their network of paid scouting consultants street agents should have been able to help with this.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Baseman said:


    But for a program that celebrated and self-congratulated its own innovation, it's jarring that the downfall came from failing to grasp new-school recruiting tactics.

    Like Grandpa with a new iPhone, Oregon couldn't figure out how it all worked.

    Race was there
  • BuffBuffPass
    BuffBuffPass Member Posts: 326

    When did Oregon recruiting really tank? They had top 25 classes every year until last year and even then they finished in the top 30. At their peak they were only pulling in borderline top 10 classes but still recruiting below the level they were playing at. Seems like people reaching for a narrative here.

    Eye test. Their rankings may have been borderline top 10 but they were bringing in players clearly a cut above Bellotti. Part of that is also Chip developing

    Helfrich apparently stopped the PEDs and is not bringing in the kind of badass player that made them two time first loser
    I think you should learn to read.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,152 Founders Club

    When did Oregon recruiting really tank? They had top 25 classes every year until last year and even then they finished in the top 30. At their peak they were only pulling in borderline top 10 classes but still recruiting below the level they were playing at. Seems like people reaching for a narrative here.

    Eye test. Their rankings may have been borderline top 10 but they were bringing in players clearly a cut above Bellotti. Part of that is also Chip developing

    Helfrich apparently stopped the PEDs and is not bringing in the kind of badass player that made them two time first loser
    I think you should learn to read.
    Can someone tell me what is written here please? I need to learn to read
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827

    Petersen tweeting a "Woof" each time he got a commit is the reason Oregon collapsed under Helfrich?

    The irony is that Sark was the guy who started that "Woof" tweeting horseshit. And Oregon beat Sark like a drum.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Oregon recruiting tanked because the staff got cocky and didn't think they needed to work at it anymore. Also, Helfrich had zero personality without the genius tag Chip had. Not a great a strategy for national recruiting.

    I think its because they sucked at evaluating and developing talent.


    Just me though.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    When did Oregon recruiting really tank? They had top 25 classes every year until last year and even then they finished in the top 30. At their peak they were only pulling in borderline top 10 classes but still recruiting below the level they were playing at. Seems like people reaching for a narrative here.

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    Speaking of narrative. This pic elegantly captures your Buff's season.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    This thred is gay and your all fags
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,828 Founders Club
    I'm sure Willie will turn it around!
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited December 2016
    haie said:

    I'm sure Willie will turn it around!

    I have a little faith in Willie seeing as how he has turned around programs at every stop. This year's 10-2 USF squad with the ninety-somethingth defense gives me serious pause. But the even the Prez of the UO shouted out to go hire a kick-ass DC, so I guess the admin at Oregon gives a fuck, which is nice. Winners win. LIFPO.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,828 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    haie said:

    I'm sure Willie will turn it around!

    I have a little faith in Willie seeing as how he has turned around programs at every stop. This year's 10-2 USF squad with the ninety-somethingth defense gives me serious pause. But the even the Prez of the UO shouted out to go hire a kick-ass DC, so I guess the admin at Oregon gives a fuck, which is nice. Winners win. LIFPO.
    He seems like Colorado's coach where he excels at turning a shit tier program around just in time to get gloriously stomped by the coach the school really wanted.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited December 2016
    89ute said:

    Baseman said:

    When did Oregon recruiting really tank? They had top 25 classes every year until last year and even then they finished in the top 30. At their peak they were only pulling in borderline top 10 classes but still recruiting below the level they were playing at. Seems like people reaching for a narrative here.

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    Speaking of narrative. This pic elegantly captures your Buff's season.
    Hey, don't leave us out.
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    The Utes died a slow death
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Sling didn't recruit for shit. The D-end that played and were recruited under Chip were Kenny Rowe, Dion Jordan, Arik Armstead, and DeForrest Buckner. One was a sack machine and the other three were high end first rounders. Who was going after the QB's this year? I watched all twelve games and I have no clue who our D-ends are.

    Chip had Brady Leaf, Dennis Dixon, Justin Roper, Masoli, Thomas, and freshman Mariota. That's not a very talented group outside of the last guy and they were dominant on offense. Sling had four years and he had one kid that might be a good QB outside of Mariota.

    The linebackers were Matthews, Kaddu, Clay, BoLo, Kiko, Stuckey, etc. We had one freshmam this year that was pretty good, total.

    Pick an NFL team, pretty solid chance one of their DB's is a Duck. Zero talent in this year's secondary.

    The WR's were there to block and beat single coverage. They don't really do either anymore.

    I can keep going. Recruiting rankings are fucking stupid. They are assigned by guys who have no idea what they are looking at. If a kid is offered by a bunch of big name programs they get a high rating.

    It's about fit and development. Neither of those things were happening outside of the running back position. RIP Coach Cam.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    It's about fit and development. Neither of those things were happening outside of the running back position. RIP Coach Cam.
    He's not dead yet!

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