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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    I'm calling for Trump to pardon her if it gets to that.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    I'm calling for Trump to pardon her if it gets to that.

    If Trump was actually the man he is pretending to be he would make pardons a thing of the past.

    He is fighting to end corruption. A pardon is mostly used as a get out of jail free card for a buddy that did something corrupt.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Assange and Snowden both helped pull the curtain back, albeit in different ways.

    If you support mass surveillance of American citizens by the gubmint, then by all means, hang Snowden and send a message to anyone else working on the inside that might dare to speak out on behalf of the people.

    Can I hang him because I support keeping my government's secrets secret, and not compromising the work and safety of State Dept. employees around the world, our intelligence operations and operatives, and those foreign nationals who work with us? Can I reasonably expect somebody in his position to go through established whistleblower channels instead of going straight to publicly airing our dirty laundry for all to see?

    People betray their country for MICE. Money, ideology, compromise, and/or ego. Snowden seems to have an ideological bent more than ego, Assange more an ego bent than ideological. I'd like to see both of them prosecuted vigorously (yes, I know Assange isn't American, but he is wanted by three govts., including the US).
    Do we actually agree on this?
    On Snowden, looks like it. But if you support what Assange did, then we differ (and you would be wrong((!!!!))).
    I was being a partisan hack on Assange. To be consistent he needs to answer for what he did as well.

    Maybe we should take a shot a peace in the Middle East while we're on a roll
    From the Jew in the crowd.... Fuck allah....
    And where's my change? Rimshot.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    So IYO, it's a blackeye for @NSA_Dawg
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Mosster47 said:

    I'm calling for Trump to pardon her if it gets to that.

    If Trump was actually the man he is pretending to be he would make pardons a thing of the past.

    He is fighting to end corruption. A pardon is mostly used as a get out of jail free card for a buddy that did something corrupt.
    Trump fighting to end corruption is like wikileaks fighting to end hacking.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,251 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Assange and Snowden both helped pull the curtain back, albeit in different ways.

    If you support mass surveillance of American citizens by the gubmint, then by all means, hang Snowden and send a message to anyone else working on the inside that might dare to speak out on behalf of the people.

    Can I hang him because I support keeping my government's secrets secret, and not compromising the work and safety of State Dept. employees around the world, our intelligence operations and operatives, and those foreign nationals who work with us? Can I reasonably expect somebody in his position to go through established whistleblower channels instead of going straight to publicly airing our dirty laundry for all to see?

    People betray their country for MICE. Money, ideology, compromise, and/or ego. Snowden seems to have an ideological bent more than ego, Assange more an ego bent than ideological. I'd like to see both of them prosecuted vigorously (yes, I know Assange isn't American, but he is wanted by three govts., including the US).
    I always tried to sleep during the CI briefings but it looks like you paid attention.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    Who watches the watchmen?

    You don't look into your own people.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    Except they do. It's out there in the open now and has been since Snowden blew the whistle on the Prism program.

    But if you want to take solace in their incompetence, go for it.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072

    BearsWiin said:

    Assange and Snowden both helped pull the curtain back, albeit in different ways.

    If you support mass surveillance of American citizens by the gubmint, then by all means, hang Snowden and send a message to anyone else working on the inside that might dare to speak out on behalf of the people.

    Can I hang him because I support keeping my government's secrets secret, and not compromising the work and safety of State Dept. employees around the world, our intelligence operations and operatives, and those foreign nationals who work with us? Can I reasonably expect somebody in his position to go through established whistleblower channels instead of going straight to publicly airing our dirty laundry for all to see?

    People betray their country for MICE. Money, ideology, compromise, and/or ego. Snowden seems to have an ideological bent more than ego, Assange more an ego bent than ideological. I'd like to see both of them prosecuted vigorously (yes, I know Assange isn't American, but he is wanted by three govts., including the US).
    I always tried to sleep during the CI briefings but it looks like you paid attention.
    UC Berkeley PolSci 124C: The Role of Intelligence Organizations in Foreign Policy, taught by Prof. Paul Seabury, 1988
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    whether they do or not, the idea that they are even capable of it is in blatant violation of the constitution.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    whether they do or not, the idea that they are even capable of it is in blatant violation of the constitution.
    Treason in wartime is punishable by death. Always has been. And Constitutional, too.

    Snowden's biggest problem is today's expansive definition of "war" and whether he did anything to aid the enemy. Technically, we've been at war, against Terror, since 2001. Might make for some good Supreme Court arguments, but I like the Govt's chances, given no SC Justice wants to look like a pussy, and will cast a "Hillary On Iraq" vote to avoid popular backlash.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    whether they do or not, the idea that they are even capable of it is in blatant violation of the constitution.
    Treason in wartime is punishable by death. Always has been. And Constitutional, too.

    Snowden's biggest problem is today's expansive definition of "war" and whether he did anything to aid the enemy. Technically, we've been at war, against Terror, since 2001. Might make for some good Supreme Court arguments, but I like the Govt's chances, given no SC Justice wants to look like a pussy, and will cast a "Hillary On Iraq" vote to avoid popular backlash.
    I was talking about the actions by the gov't itself. I have no doubt if he came back he'd be killed barring a pardon
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    whether they do or not, the idea that they are even capable of it is in blatant violation of the constitution.
    Treason in wartime is punishable by death. Always has been. And Constitutional, too.

    Snowden's biggest problem is today's expansive definition of "war" and whether he did anything to aid the enemy. Technically, we've been at war, against Terror, since 2001. Might make for some good Supreme Court arguments, but I like the Govt's chances, given no SC Justice wants to look like a pussy, and will cast a "Hillary On Iraq" vote to avoid popular backlash.
    I was talking about the actions by the gov't itself. I have no doubt if he came back he'd be killed barring a pardon
    Ultimate whistle blower pays the ultimate price.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The thing I never understood about Snowden.

    If the NSA is so all seeing, and all knowing.

    How the fuck did they not know he was stealing their shit?

    Come on.

    If we are so worried they might see I went to a gay interracial midget porn festival site four nights ago at 1 AM ... how in the fuck did they not see the very guy stealing shit from them from their own headquarters.

    Maybe ... the NSA doesn't see everything we think they see.

    Snowden is a spy ... needs to be put to death.

    whether they do or not, the idea that they are even capable of it is in blatant violation of the constitution.
    Treason in wartime is punishable by death. Always has been. And Constitutional, too.

    Snowden's biggest problem is today's expansive definition of "war" and whether he did anything to aid the enemy. Technically, we've been at war, against Terror, since 2001. Might make for some good Supreme Court arguments, but I like the Govt's chances, given no SC Justice wants to look like a pussy, and will cast a "Hillary On Iraq" vote to avoid popular backlash.
    I was talking about the actions by the gov't itself. I have no doubt if he came back he'd be killed barring a pardon
    Ultimate whistle blower pays the ultimate price.
    That doesn't mean what you think it does.