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RoadDawg55
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Is fucking stupid. This year and next are the title opportunities. There really is no reason for us to have concern at all because Petersen has proved his worth this season.
Here would be some scenario's that are probably more valid than the OL concerns. I truly don't get it. It's so fucking stupid because we all obviously want Sarrell, but there is absolutely nothing to be up in arms about.
QB - Who is playing QB after Browning, especially if he leaves early? (no idea about his NFL abilities, but elite numbers are elite numbers that get scout's attention.
RB: Who is the primary guy after Gaskin and Coleman leave after next year? He's probably not on the current roster.
WR: We'll be perfectly fine, but Ross is gone after this year. If Pettis somehow chose to leave and be a mid round pick, we would be kind of fucked.
OL: Adams for sure and probably McGary are gone after next year.
Other than WR, I would say it's just as logical to worry about those other positions on offense as it is the OL.
This post is already too long so I'll quickly give some concerns about defense.
We don't have a single proven edge rusher to be excited about. Are Kwiatkowski and Milloy shitty recruiters for not having that guy on the roster? No, just like Strausser isn't either.
We have recruited well at DB, but it's not necessarily likely we will have two CB's as good as King and Jones in the next few years. Those guys aren't especially common, even more so on the same team.
Same goes for DT. Most teams, even good ones don't have three NFL DT's over 320 pounds.
I'm not even concerned about all this because 1) I don't give a fuck about next year when we are 9-0 and in the playoff hunt. 2) I'm only simply pointing out that this singular OL concern over a couple recruits is so fucking retarded it hurts my brain.
Strausser is a good recruiter because his OL is good. I'm not making the stars argument because obviously 5 stars are better and I wish we could sign 25 of them every year, but if UW is good, I don't give a flying fuck is they are 2 stars, 3 stars, 5 stars, or a fucking diamond in the ruff.
Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well on the OL as a true freshman. If Sarrell goes elsewhere, find some other guys and continue to fucking win. Just fucking win.
Is fucking stupid. This year and next are the title opportunities. There really is no reason for us to have concern at all because Petersen has proved his worth this season.
Here would be some scenario's that are probably more valid than the OL concerns. I truly don't get it. It's so fucking stupid because we all obviously want Sarrell, but there is absolutely nothing to be up in arms about.
QB - Who is playing QB after Browning, especially if he leaves early? (no idea about his NFL abilities, but elite numbers are elite numbers that get scout's attention.
RB: Who is the primary guy after Gaskin and Coleman leave after next year? He's probably not on the current roster.
WR: We'll be perfectly fine, but Ross is gone after this year. If Pettis somehow chose to leave and be a mid round pick, we would be kind of fucked.
OL: Adams for sure and probably McGary are gone after next year.
Other than WR, I would say it's just as logical to worry about those other positions on offense as it is the OL.
This post is already too long so I'll quickly give some concerns about defense.
We don't have a single proven edge rusher to be excited about. Are Kwiatkowski and Milloy shitty recruiters for not having that guy on the roster? No, just like Strausser isn't either.
We have recruited well at DB, but it's not necessarily likely we will have two CB's as good as King and Jones in the next few years. Those guys aren't especially common, even more so on the same team.
Same goes for DT. Most teams, even good ones don't have three NFL DT's over 320 pounds.
I'm not even concerned about all this because 1) I don't give a fuck about next year when we are 9-0 and in the playoff hunt. 2) I'm only simply pointing out that this singular OL concern over a couple recruits is so fucking retarded it hurts my brain.
Strausser is a good recruiter because his OL is good. I'm not making the stars argument because obviously 5 stars are better and I wish we could sign 25 of them every year, but if UW is good, I don't give a flying fuck is they are 2 stars, 3 stars, 5 stars, or a fucking diamond in the ruff.
Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well on the OL as a true freshman. If Sarrell goes elsewhere, find some other guys and continue to fucking win. Just fucking win.
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Yup! I am just not going to respond, just different viewpoints on stuff. It's like arguing politics at this point!
God Speed!
EDIT: I still love you though, my asian homie!
EDIT 2: I don't care about stars either, they are stupid. So we agree there! -
Just just did thoughCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Yup! I am just not going to respond, just different viewpoints on stuff. It's like arguing politics at this point!
God Speed!
EDIT: I still love you though, my asian homie!
EDIT 2: I don't care about stars either, they are stupid. So we agree there! -
FMLCuntWaffle said:
Just just did thoughCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Yup! I am just not going to respond, just different viewpoints on stuff. It's like arguing politics at this point!
God Speed!
EDIT: I still love you though, my asian homie!
EDIT 2: I don't care about stars either, they are stupid. So we agree there! -
Amen. DDY and I had a good back-and-forth on this earlier (he did a good analysis). hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/34318/pm-to-passion/p1RoadDawg55 said:
We don't have a single proven edge rusher to be excited about.
If we had a true freshman tearing it up on the scout team, he'd be playing. So, we don't.
I don't think Kwiatkowski or Malloe are shitty recruiters. However, for some reason our worse players on defense are the edge guys. I don't know why, but there it is. -
Amandre gonna make you happy! Benning too.Passion said:
Amen. DDY and I had a good back-and-forth on this earlier (he did a good analysis). hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/34318/pm-to-passion/p1RoadDawg55 said:
We don't have a single proven edge rusher to be excited about.
If we had a true freshman tearing it up on the scout team, he'd be playing. So, we don't.
I don't think Kwiatkowski or Malloe are shitty recruiters. However, for some reason our worse players on defense are the edge guys. I don't know why, but there it is. -
I'm pretty sure I agree with Roadsan but I didn't read it
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I don't think Adams will leave after 3 years in college. McGary is also still too raw to jump as a junior, even with a RS year. He's only played OT for 1.5 seasons at this point.
Weddington or Ahmed will be the heir to Gaskin.
The QB battle between RS Jr Bridge-Gadd and RS-Fr Sirmon will be interesting. -
Thisbananasnblondes said:I don't think Adams will leave after 3 years in college. McGary is also still too raw to jump as a junior, even with a RS year. He's only played OT for 1.5 seasons at this point.
Weddington or Ahmed will be the heir to Gaskin.
The QB battle between RS Jr Bridge-Gadd and RS-Fr Sirmon will be interesting. -
To add... I would be slightly more surprised if Gaskin left early than stayed 4 years.TommySQC said:
Thisbananasnblondes said:I don't think Adams will leave after 3 years in college. McGary is also still too raw to jump as a junior, even with a RS year. He's only played OT for 1.5 seasons at this point.
Weddington or Ahmed will be the heir to Gaskin.
The QB battle between RS Jr Bridge-Gadd and RS-Fr Sirmon will be interesting.
a) RBs have the shortest careers of any position on average... he'll want that degree. Though it's possible he takes the Bishop Sankey route and finishes up his classes during each offseason.
b) Not many RBs his size and with his skillset have a ton of success in the NFL. He'll need to really work on his pass catching and pass blocking if he wants to succeed or at least have a more relevant career than Sankey.
c) He could be a 1st team All-American easily his senior year, especially if Browning is gone and he becomes the entire offense by himself.
Either way, by the time he's gone the young guys will be ready. Plus Sean McGrew is still in the equation. -
Thhe obsession continues.
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It's fun. You said it on the podcast.Dennis_DeYoung said:Thhe obsession continues.
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I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
RoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
Is this what you meant? -
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
awfully warm for February..
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There are some mixed opinions on Benning on this site. Some think the Potoa'e brother peeked physically too early in their lives. Others think Potoa'e is going to be a star.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Amandre gonna make you happy! Benning too.Passion said:
Amen. DDY and I had a good back-and-forth on this earlier (he did a good analysis). hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/34318/pm-to-passion/p1RoadDawg55 said:
We don't have a single proven edge rusher to be excited about.
If we had a true freshman tearing it up on the scout team, he'd be playing. So, we don't.
I don't think Kwiatkowski or Malloe are shitty recruiters. However, for some reason our worse players on defense are the edge guys. I don't know why, but there it is.
I'll wait and see. -
RoadDawg55 said "most QBs are busts." He didn't say, "most starting QBs for UW are busts." Look at our roster over the past couple years - Cyler Miles, Jeff Lindquist, KJ Carta Samuels, Troy Williams, Jake Browning, Gonzalez, the true frosh from arizona, etc.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
How many of these guys will make an NFL roster, and how many will simply get a few meaningless snaps, graduate and move on with their lives? -
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out -
http://www.si.com/college-football/photos/2013/01/28/top-quarterback-recruits-2013
Here's a link for the top QB's from 2013. Not a single one had a great college career. The best are Hackenburg (who sucked, and Zaire (highly touted but also the QB of a terrible Notre Dame team.
Here's a 2012 list. Only Jamie's Winston was a good starting QB on a top 10 team. I guess Chad Kelly is decent too.
http://athlonsports.com/college-football/2012-football-recruiting-rankings-qbs
But how are most QB's a bust @Tequilla? You stupid fuck. -
Again, absolute fucktarded logic ...RoadDawg55 said:
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
It's time to take the gloves off and roll ...
You've been advancing the following just in this thread:
1) OL recruiting doesn't matter (Teq thoughts about RD comments: IMO it is because you think Strausser will develop them regardless (i.e. the Tom Cable/Seahawks OL approach) and since we're winning this year it's a winning formula ... and as long as we win we'll recruit so whatever)
2) What's the QB situation after Browning ... nobody proven or experienced (Teq thoughts: trying to minimize the unknown at OL)
3) Who takes over for Gaskin/Coleman (Teq thoughts: may or may not be on the roster ... but this starts going down the path where I'm beginning to think that you're a fucktard for not realizing that players moving through the program happens in college because they're only on campus anywhere from 3-5 years)
4) If Ross/Pettis leave we're fucked (Teq thoughts: this is where RECRUITING comes in and we're in a position to have one of, if not the best WR recruiting classes in the country)
5) We don't have another edge rusher (outside of Mathis) on the roster so therefore K and Malloe must be shit recruiters like Strausser according to the masses (Teq thoughts: now I know you really don't pay attention to recruiting because our class last year was STACKED at the position as well as guys that we've recruited in this class ... young players playing the position now are becoming more and more noticeable each and every week)
6) While we have recruited well at DB we won't have Jones/King because they aren't common (Teq thoughts: I seem to have heard similar comments about Marcus Peters ... and at other positions guys like Shelton, Kikaha, and Shaq ... how did the replacements at those spots do?)
7) But none of the above matters because we're 9-0 and recruiting hurts your brain (Teq thoughts: you're also the same idiot that spent the better part of Pete's first two years saying that he wasn't the guy and as for recruiting, if you don't realize that recruiting is to college football what the draft is to the NFL, then you're way to FS to even enter into a discussion about recruiting and in particular telling the guys that TBS hard that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about)
8) Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well as a true freshman (Teq thoughts: just when I thought you couldn't be even more fucktarded, you totally go redeem yourself ... IF the prior years recruiting would have been better, a massively UNDERSIZED Nick Harris would NOT have been playing this year ... HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING SEVEN WIN SARK LOVING POS THAT PLAYING UNDERSIZED TRUE FRESHMAN ON THE OL ISN'T A VALIDATION ON HIM OR HIS ABILITIES BUT AN INDICTMENT ON THE QUALITY OF PLAYERS STUCK BEHIND HIM ON THE DEPTH CHART ... ONLY SARK FS IDIOTS THINK THAT BECAUSE A GUY IS PLAYING AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THAT HE'S GOOD ... FUCK ME WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER)
And before you claim that I've spun your shit Dead Dog, all of these thoughts were taken from your original post on this topic ... I haven't even gotten into the QB shit show that you went down by saying "Sirmon has proven nothing" and now bringing up some BS shit from the Elite 11 or whatever from 4-5 years ago as saying "see, that class sucked so we have no guarantee that anybody will be good."
Let's just get to the point here on the QBs so that you can further hide your head in shame on this thread where I feel like I'm channeling my inner Puppy and at minimum have taken one glove off you ignorant shithead. Here are all the primary UW starting QBs since 1977:
1977: Warren Moon (I think we know a bit about him)
1978: Tom Porras (USFL/CFL/Arena - approx.12 year career)
1979: Porras/Tom Flick (7 year NFL career)
1980: Flick
1981: Steve Pelluer (8 year NFL career)
1982: Pelluer
1983: Pelluer
1984: Hugh Millen (9 year NFL career)
1985: Hugh Millen
1986: Chris Chandler (17 year NFL career)
1987: Chandler
1988: Cary Conklin (5 year NFL career)
1989: Conklin
1990: Mark Brunell (19 year NFL career)
1991: Billy Joe Hobert (9 year NFL career)
1992: Hobert/Brunell
1993: Damon Huard (13 year NFL career)
1994: Huard
1995: Huard
1996: Brock Huard (6 year NFL career)
1997: Huard
1998: Huard
1999: Marques Tuiasosopo (8 year NFL career)
2000: Tui
2001: Cody Pickett (NFL/CFL)
2002: Pickett
2003: Pickett
2004: Casey Paus (Nothing)
2005: Isaiah Stanback (6 year NFL career, not as a QB)
2006: Stanback
2007: Jake Locker (4 year NFL career)
2008: Ronnie Fouch due to Locker injury (no NFL career)
2009: Locker
2010: Locker
2011: Keith Price (CFL)
2012: Keith Price
2013: Keith Price
2014: Cyler Miles (no NFL career)
2015: Jake Browning (TBD)
2016: Browning
So in the last 40 years of University of Washington football, only in 2004 (1-10), 2008 (0-12), and 2014 could you point to a roster where the starting QB wasn't at least a CFL player and the 2008 season the primary starter was only that due to a season-ending injury to the starter. On top of that, there's a small list of the players that played professionally that at least didn't get a sniff of being on NFL rosters being Porras in 1978 and Keith Price. Shocking that arguably the worst period of professional success for UW QBs comes from 2011-2014 and were all recruited and developed primarily by Sark ... shocking I tell you.
So if you're telling me over the next 40 years that the UW will have a 3 out of 40 chance each year of having a QB that isn't good enough to play professionally and well over a 75% chance that the primary starting QB on the roster will end up playing in the NFL somehow or someway, I think I'll take my chances. So to your point that we don't know shit about Sirmon you're right we don't. We know he's highly rated and that's normally a strong indicator. That being said, we tend to recruit a relatively strong QB option each year so whether it is Sirmon or somebody else, history tells you that the UW will have a QB worth a shit.
Please go play Frogger across the 101 or whatever will make you go splat against a windshield and keep you from posting worthless drivel about topics that you clearly don't know anything about.
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I can't do this. My bad for bringing it up. Truthfully you are an idiot who knows very little about football.Tequilla said:
Again, absolute fucktarded logic ...RoadDawg55 said:
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
It's time to take the gloves off and roll ...
You've been advancing the following just in this thread:
1) OL recruiting doesn't matter (Teq thoughts about RD comments: IMO it is because you think Strausser will develop them regardless (i.e. the Tom Cable/Seahawks OL approach) and since we're winning this year it's a winning formula ... and as long as we win we'll recruit so whatever)
2) What's the QB situation after Browning ... nobody proven or experienced (Teq thoughts: trying to minimize the unknown at OL)
3) Who takes over for Gaskin/Coleman (Teq thoughts: may or may not be on the roster ... but this starts going down the path where I'm beginning to think that you're a fucktard for not realizing that players moving through the program happens in college because they're only on campus anywhere from 3-5 years)
4) If Ross/Pettis leave we're fucked (Teq thoughts: this is where RECRUITING comes in and we're in a position to have one of, if not the best WR recruiting classes in the country)
5) We don't have another edge rusher (outside of Mathis) on the roster so therefore K and Malloe must be shit recruiters like Strausser according to the masses (Teq thoughts: now I know you really don't pay attention to recruiting because our class last year was STACKED at the position as well as guys that we've recruited in this class ... young players playing the position now are becoming more and more noticeable each and every week)
6) While we have recruited well at DB we won't have Jones/King because they aren't common (Teq thoughts: I seem to have heard similar comments about Marcus Peters ... and at other positions guys like Shelton, Kikaha, and Shaq ... how did the replacements at those spots do?)
7) But none of the above matters because we're 9-0 and recruiting hurts your brain (Teq thoughts: you're also the same idiot that spent the better part of Pete's first two years saying that he wasn't the guy and as for recruiting, if you don't realize that recruiting is to college football what the draft is to the NFL, then you're way to FS to even enter into a discussion about recruiting and in particular telling the guys that TBS hard that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about)
8) Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well as a true freshman (Teq thoughts: just when I thought you couldn't be even more fucktarded, you totally go redeem yourself ... IF the prior years recruiting would have been better, a massively UNDERSIZED Nick Harris would NOT have been playing this year ... HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING SEVEN WIN SARK LOVING POS THAT PLAYING UNDERSIZED TRUE FRESHMAN ON THE OL ISN'T A VALIDATION ON HIM OR HIS ABILITIES BUT AN INDICTMENT ON THE QUALITY OF PLAYERS STUCK BEHIND HIM ON THE DEPTH CHART ... ONLY SARK FS IDIOTS THINK THAT BECAUSE A GUY IS PLAYING AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THAT HE'S GOOD ... FUCK ME WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER)
And before you claim that I've spun your shit Dead Dog, all of these thoughts were taken from your original post on this topic ... I haven't even gotten into the QB shit show that you went down by saying "Sirmon has proven nothing" and now bringing up some BS shit from the Elite 11 or whatever from 4-5 years ago as saying "see, that class sucked so we have no guarantee that anybody will be good."
Let's just get to the point here on the QBs so that you can further hide your head in shame on this thread where I feel like I'm channeling my inner Puppy and at minimum have taken one glove off you ignorant shithead. Here are all the primary UW starting QBs since 1977:
1977: Warren Moon (I think we know a bit about him)
1978: Tom Porras (USFL/CFL/Arena - approx.12 year career)
1979: Porras/Tom Flick (7 year NFL career)
1980: Flick
1981: Steve Pelluer (8 year NFL career)
1982: Pelluer
1983: Pelluer
1984: Hugh Millen (9 year NFL career)
1985: Hugh Millen
1986: Chris Chandler (17 year NFL career)
1987: Chandler
1988: Cary Conklin (5 year NFL career)
1989: Conklin
1990: Mark Brunell (19 year NFL career)
1991: Billy Joe Hobert (9 year NFL career)
1992: Hobert/Brunell
1993: Damon Huard (13 year NFL career)
1994: Huard
1995: Huard
1996: Brock Huard (6 year NFL career)
1997: Huard
1998: Huard
1999: Marques Tuiasosopo (8 year NFL career)
2000: Tui
2001: Cody Pickett (NFL/CFL)
2002: Pickett
2003: Pickett
2004: Casey Paus (Nothing)
2005: Isaiah Stanback (6 year NFL career, not as a QB)
2006: Stanback
2007: Jake Locker (4 year NFL career)
2008: Ronnie Fouch due to Locker injury (no NFL career)
2009: Locker
2010: Locker
2011: Keith Price (CFL)
2012: Keith Price
2013: Keith Price
2014: Cyler Miles (no NFL career)
2015: Jake Browning (TBD)
2016: Browning
So in the last 40 years of University of Washington football, only in 2004 (1-10), 2008 (0-12), and 2014 could you point to a roster where the starting QB wasn't at least a CFL player and the 2008 season the primary starter was only that due to a season-ending injury to the starter. On top of that, there's a small list of the players that played professionally that at least didn't get a sniff of being on NFL rosters being Porras in 1978 and Keith Price. Shocking that arguably the worst period of professional success for UW QBs comes from 2011-2014 and were all recruited and developed primarily by Sark ... shocking I tell you.
So if you're telling me over the next 40 years that the UW will have a 3 out of 40 chance each year of having a QB that isn't good enough to play professionally and well over a 75% chance that the primary starting QB on the roster will end up playing in the NFL somehow or someway, I think I'll take my chances. So to your point that we don't know shit about Sirmon you're right we don't. We know he's highly rated and that's normally a strong indicator. That being said, we tend to recruit a relatively strong QB option each year so whether it is Sirmon or somebody else, history tells you that the UW will have a QB worth a shit.
Please go play Frogger across the 101 or whatever will make you go splat against a windshield and keep you from posting worthless drivel about topics that you clearly don't know anything about.
I will comment on Nick Harris you doog piece of shit. Petersen had two classes before Harris' yet you blame Sark? Maybe Harris is just a fucking good player?
But how was Emmert a bad president? -
Holy shit you are fucking stupid ...RoadDawg55 said:
I can't do this. My bad for bringing it up. Truthfully you are an idiot who knows very little about football.Tequilla said:
Again, absolute fucktarded logic ...RoadDawg55 said:
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
It's time to take the gloves off and roll ...
You've been advancing the following just in this thread:
1) OL recruiting doesn't matter (Teq thoughts about RD comments: IMO it is because you think Strausser will develop them regardless (i.e. the Tom Cable/Seahawks OL approach) and since we're winning this year it's a winning formula ... and as long as we win we'll recruit so whatever)
2) What's the QB situation after Browning ... nobody proven or experienced (Teq thoughts: trying to minimize the unknown at OL)
3) Who takes over for Gaskin/Coleman (Teq thoughts: may or may not be on the roster ... but this starts going down the path where I'm beginning to think that you're a fucktard for not realizing that players moving through the program happens in college because they're only on campus anywhere from 3-5 years)
4) If Ross/Pettis leave we're fucked (Teq thoughts: this is where RECRUITING comes in and we're in a position to have one of, if not the best WR recruiting classes in the country)
5) We don't have another edge rusher (outside of Mathis) on the roster so therefore K and Malloe must be shit recruiters like Strausser according to the masses (Teq thoughts: now I know you really don't pay attention to recruiting because our class last year was STACKED at the position as well as guys that we've recruited in this class ... young players playing the position now are becoming more and more noticeable each and every week)
6) While we have recruited well at DB we won't have Jones/King because they aren't common (Teq thoughts: I seem to have heard similar comments about Marcus Peters ... and at other positions guys like Shelton, Kikaha, and Shaq ... how did the replacements at those spots do?)
7) But none of the above matters because we're 9-0 and recruiting hurts your brain (Teq thoughts: you're also the same idiot that spent the better part of Pete's first two years saying that he wasn't the guy and as for recruiting, if you don't realize that recruiting is to college football what the draft is to the NFL, then you're way to FS to even enter into a discussion about recruiting and in particular telling the guys that TBS hard that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about)
8) Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well as a true freshman (Teq thoughts: just when I thought you couldn't be even more fucktarded, you totally go redeem yourself ... IF the prior years recruiting would have been better, a massively UNDERSIZED Nick Harris would NOT have been playing this year ... HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING SEVEN WIN SARK LOVING POS THAT PLAYING UNDERSIZED TRUE FRESHMAN ON THE OL ISN'T A VALIDATION ON HIM OR HIS ABILITIES BUT AN INDICTMENT ON THE QUALITY OF PLAYERS STUCK BEHIND HIM ON THE DEPTH CHART ... ONLY SARK FS IDIOTS THINK THAT BECAUSE A GUY IS PLAYING AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THAT HE'S GOOD ... FUCK ME WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER)
And before you claim that I've spun your shit Dead Dog, all of these thoughts were taken from your original post on this topic ... I haven't even gotten into the QB shit show that you went down by saying "Sirmon has proven nothing" and now bringing up some BS shit from the Elite 11 or whatever from 4-5 years ago as saying "see, that class sucked so we have no guarantee that anybody will be good."
Let's just get to the point here on the QBs so that you can further hide your head in shame on this thread where I feel like I'm channeling my inner Puppy and at minimum have taken one glove off you ignorant shithead. Here are all the primary UW starting QBs since 1977:
1977: Warren Moon (I think we know a bit about him)
1978: Tom Porras (USFL/CFL/Arena - approx.12 year career)
1979: Porras/Tom Flick (7 year NFL career)
1980: Flick
1981: Steve Pelluer (8 year NFL career)
1982: Pelluer
1983: Pelluer
1984: Hugh Millen (9 year NFL career)
1985: Hugh Millen
1986: Chris Chandler (17 year NFL career)
1987: Chandler
1988: Cary Conklin (5 year NFL career)
1989: Conklin
1990: Mark Brunell (19 year NFL career)
1991: Billy Joe Hobert (9 year NFL career)
1992: Hobert/Brunell
1993: Damon Huard (13 year NFL career)
1994: Huard
1995: Huard
1996: Brock Huard (6 year NFL career)
1997: Huard
1998: Huard
1999: Marques Tuiasosopo (8 year NFL career)
2000: Tui
2001: Cody Pickett (NFL/CFL)
2002: Pickett
2003: Pickett
2004: Casey Paus (Nothing)
2005: Isaiah Stanback (6 year NFL career, not as a QB)
2006: Stanback
2007: Jake Locker (4 year NFL career)
2008: Ronnie Fouch due to Locker injury (no NFL career)
2009: Locker
2010: Locker
2011: Keith Price (CFL)
2012: Keith Price
2013: Keith Price
2014: Cyler Miles (no NFL career)
2015: Jake Browning (TBD)
2016: Browning
So in the last 40 years of University of Washington football, only in 2004 (1-10), 2008 (0-12), and 2014 could you point to a roster where the starting QB wasn't at least a CFL player and the 2008 season the primary starter was only that due to a season-ending injury to the starter. On top of that, there's a small list of the players that played professionally that at least didn't get a sniff of being on NFL rosters being Porras in 1978 and Keith Price. Shocking that arguably the worst period of professional success for UW QBs comes from 2011-2014 and were all recruited and developed primarily by Sark ... shocking I tell you.
So if you're telling me over the next 40 years that the UW will have a 3 out of 40 chance each year of having a QB that isn't good enough to play professionally and well over a 75% chance that the primary starting QB on the roster will end up playing in the NFL somehow or someway, I think I'll take my chances. So to your point that we don't know shit about Sirmon you're right we don't. We know he's highly rated and that's normally a strong indicator. That being said, we tend to recruit a relatively strong QB option each year so whether it is Sirmon or somebody else, history tells you that the UW will have a QB worth a shit.
Please go play Frogger across the 101 or whatever will make you go splat against a windshield and keep you from posting worthless drivel about topics that you clearly don't know anything about.
I will comment on Nick Harris you doog piece of shit. Petersen had two classes before Harris' yet you blame Sark? Maybe Harris is just a fucking good player?
But how was Emmert a bad president?
Find one place where I said that Nick Harris playing was Sark's fault? Didn't happen. Learn to fucking read ... I called you the idiot for confusing Harris playing for being good ... that's the kind of FS thinking that Sark (and his like) would do ...
And BTW, don't write a fucking check that your ass can't cash (also known as this entire thread) -
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Or what? Just curious asking for a friendTequilla said:
Holy shit you are fucking stupid ...RoadDawg55 said:
I can't do this. My bad for bringing it up. Truthfully you are an idiot who knows very little about football.Tequilla said:
Again, absolute fucktarded logic ...RoadDawg55 said:
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
It's time to take the gloves off and roll ...
You've been advancing the following just in this thread:
1) OL recruiting doesn't matter (Teq thoughts about RD comments: IMO it is because you think Strausser will develop them regardless (i.e. the Tom Cable/Seahawks OL approach) and since we're winning this year it's a winning formula ... and as long as we win we'll recruit so whatever)
2) What's the QB situation after Browning ... nobody proven or experienced (Teq thoughts: trying to minimize the unknown at OL)
3) Who takes over for Gaskin/Coleman (Teq thoughts: may or may not be on the roster ... but this starts going down the path where I'm beginning to think that you're a fucktard for not realizing that players moving through the program happens in college because they're only on campus anywhere from 3-5 years)
4) If Ross/Pettis leave we're fucked (Teq thoughts: this is where RECRUITING comes in and we're in a position to have one of, if not the best WR recruiting classes in the country)
5) We don't have another edge rusher (outside of Mathis) on the roster so therefore K and Malloe must be shit recruiters like Strausser according to the masses (Teq thoughts: now I know you really don't pay attention to recruiting because our class last year was STACKED at the position as well as guys that we've recruited in this class ... young players playing the position now are becoming more and more noticeable each and every week)
6) While we have recruited well at DB we won't have Jones/King because they aren't common (Teq thoughts: I seem to have heard similar comments about Marcus Peters ... and at other positions guys like Shelton, Kikaha, and Shaq ... how did the replacements at those spots do?)
7) But none of the above matters because we're 9-0 and recruiting hurts your brain (Teq thoughts: you're also the same idiot that spent the better part of Pete's first two years saying that he wasn't the guy and as for recruiting, if you don't realize that recruiting is to college football what the draft is to the NFL, then you're way to FS to even enter into a discussion about recruiting and in particular telling the guys that TBS hard that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about)
8) Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well as a true freshman (Teq thoughts: just when I thought you couldn't be even more fucktarded, you totally go redeem yourself ... IF the prior years recruiting would have been better, a massively UNDERSIZED Nick Harris would NOT have been playing this year ... HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING SEVEN WIN SARK LOVING POS THAT PLAYING UNDERSIZED TRUE FRESHMAN ON THE OL ISN'T A VALIDATION ON HIM OR HIS ABILITIES BUT AN INDICTMENT ON THE QUALITY OF PLAYERS STUCK BEHIND HIM ON THE DEPTH CHART ... ONLY SARK FS IDIOTS THINK THAT BECAUSE A GUY IS PLAYING AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THAT HE'S GOOD ... FUCK ME WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER)
And before you claim that I've spun your shit Dead Dog, all of these thoughts were taken from your original post on this topic ... I haven't even gotten into the QB shit show that you went down by saying "Sirmon has proven nothing" and now bringing up some BS shit from the Elite 11 or whatever from 4-5 years ago as saying "see, that class sucked so we have no guarantee that anybody will be good."
Let's just get to the point here on the QBs so that you can further hide your head in shame on this thread where I feel like I'm channeling my inner Puppy and at minimum have taken one glove off you ignorant shithead. Here are all the primary UW starting QBs since 1977:
1977: Warren Moon (I think we know a bit about him)
1978: Tom Porras (USFL/CFL/Arena - approx.12 year career)
1979: Porras/Tom Flick (7 year NFL career)
1980: Flick
1981: Steve Pelluer (8 year NFL career)
1982: Pelluer
1983: Pelluer
1984: Hugh Millen (9 year NFL career)
1985: Hugh Millen
1986: Chris Chandler (17 year NFL career)
1987: Chandler
1988: Cary Conklin (5 year NFL career)
1989: Conklin
1990: Mark Brunell (19 year NFL career)
1991: Billy Joe Hobert (9 year NFL career)
1992: Hobert/Brunell
1993: Damon Huard (13 year NFL career)
1994: Huard
1995: Huard
1996: Brock Huard (6 year NFL career)
1997: Huard
1998: Huard
1999: Marques Tuiasosopo (8 year NFL career)
2000: Tui
2001: Cody Pickett (NFL/CFL)
2002: Pickett
2003: Pickett
2004: Casey Paus (Nothing)
2005: Isaiah Stanback (6 year NFL career, not as a QB)
2006: Stanback
2007: Jake Locker (4 year NFL career)
2008: Ronnie Fouch due to Locker injury (no NFL career)
2009: Locker
2010: Locker
2011: Keith Price (CFL)
2012: Keith Price
2013: Keith Price
2014: Cyler Miles (no NFL career)
2015: Jake Browning (TBD)
2016: Browning
So in the last 40 years of University of Washington football, only in 2004 (1-10), 2008 (0-12), and 2014 could you point to a roster where the starting QB wasn't at least a CFL player and the 2008 season the primary starter was only that due to a season-ending injury to the starter. On top of that, there's a small list of the players that played professionally that at least didn't get a sniff of being on NFL rosters being Porras in 1978 and Keith Price. Shocking that arguably the worst period of professional success for UW QBs comes from 2011-2014 and were all recruited and developed primarily by Sark ... shocking I tell you.
So if you're telling me over the next 40 years that the UW will have a 3 out of 40 chance each year of having a QB that isn't good enough to play professionally and well over a 75% chance that the primary starting QB on the roster will end up playing in the NFL somehow or someway, I think I'll take my chances. So to your point that we don't know shit about Sirmon you're right we don't. We know he's highly rated and that's normally a strong indicator. That being said, we tend to recruit a relatively strong QB option each year so whether it is Sirmon or somebody else, history tells you that the UW will have a QB worth a shit.
Please go play Frogger across the 101 or whatever will make you go splat against a windshield and keep you from posting worthless drivel about topics that you clearly don't know anything about.
I will comment on Nick Harris you doog piece of shit. Petersen had two classes before Harris' yet you blame Sark? Maybe Harris is just a fucking good player?
But how was Emmert a bad president?
Find one place where I said that Nick Harris playing was Sark's fault? Didn't happen. Learn to fucking read ... I called you the idiot for confusing Harris playing for being good ... that's the kind of FS thinking that Sark (and his like) would do ...
And BTW, don't write a fucking check that your ass can't cash (also known as this entire thread) -
I contracted AIDS trying to read this thread. This is fucking stupid and y'all need to just LIPO.
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I hate seeing two dads fight, please stop.
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AtomicDawg said:
Or what? Just curious asking for a friendTequilla said:
Holy shit you are fucking stupid ...RoadDawg55 said:
I can't do this. My bad for bringing it up. Truthfully you are an idiot who knows very little about football.Tequilla said:
Again, absolute fucktarded logic ...RoadDawg55 said:
We had other QB's on the roster that never saw the field or sucked. It's not hard to understand.Tequilla said:
Which is why for an approximate 30 year period every material starting QB for the University of Washington was at least on a NFL rosterRoadDawg55 said:
Most QB's are busts. Simple factTequilla said:
Because most future 1st year starting QBs have proven anything ... #fucktardRoadDawg55 said:
Sirmon has proven nothing.Tequilla said:I'm pretty sure Dead Dog On The Road is a fucktard ... otherwise with the way we have recruited everywhere but OL and QB I have nothing to worry about ...
We already know Sirmon at QB ...
We'll see how the OL plays out
It's time to take the gloves off and roll ...
You've been advancing the following just in this thread:
1) OL recruiting doesn't matter (Teq thoughts about RD comments: IMO it is because you think Strausser will develop them regardless (i.e. the Tom Cable/Seahawks OL approach) and since we're winning this year it's a winning formula ... and as long as we win we'll recruit so whatever)
2) What's the QB situation after Browning ... nobody proven or experienced (Teq thoughts: trying to minimize the unknown at OL)
3) Who takes over for Gaskin/Coleman (Teq thoughts: may or may not be on the roster ... but this starts going down the path where I'm beginning to think that you're a fucktard for not realizing that players moving through the program happens in college because they're only on campus anywhere from 3-5 years)
4) If Ross/Pettis leave we're fucked (Teq thoughts: this is where RECRUITING comes in and we're in a position to have one of, if not the best WR recruiting classes in the country)
5) We don't have another edge rusher (outside of Mathis) on the roster so therefore K and Malloe must be shit recruiters like Strausser according to the masses (Teq thoughts: now I know you really don't pay attention to recruiting because our class last year was STACKED at the position as well as guys that we've recruited in this class ... young players playing the position now are becoming more and more noticeable each and every week)
6) While we have recruited well at DB we won't have Jones/King because they aren't common (Teq thoughts: I seem to have heard similar comments about Marcus Peters ... and at other positions guys like Shelton, Kikaha, and Shaq ... how did the replacements at those spots do?)
7) But none of the above matters because we're 9-0 and recruiting hurts your brain (Teq thoughts: you're also the same idiot that spent the better part of Pete's first two years saying that he wasn't the guy and as for recruiting, if you don't realize that recruiting is to college football what the draft is to the NFL, then you're way to FS to even enter into a discussion about recruiting and in particular telling the guys that TBS hard that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about)
8) Nick Harris is a good recruit because he's playing well as a true freshman (Teq thoughts: just when I thought you couldn't be even more fucktarded, you totally go redeem yourself ... IF the prior years recruiting would have been better, a massively UNDERSIZED Nick Harris would NOT have been playing this year ... HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING SEVEN WIN SARK LOVING POS THAT PLAYING UNDERSIZED TRUE FRESHMAN ON THE OL ISN'T A VALIDATION ON HIM OR HIS ABILITIES BUT AN INDICTMENT ON THE QUALITY OF PLAYERS STUCK BEHIND HIM ON THE DEPTH CHART ... ONLY SARK FS IDIOTS THINK THAT BECAUSE A GUY IS PLAYING AS A TRUE FRESHMAN THAT THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THAT HE'S GOOD ... FUCK ME WITH A RUSTY CHEESE GRATER)
And before you claim that I've spun your shit Dead Dog, all of these thoughts were taken from your original post on this topic ... I haven't even gotten into the QB shit show that you went down by saying "Sirmon has proven nothing" and now bringing up some BS shit from the Elite 11 or whatever from 4-5 years ago as saying "see, that class sucked so we have no guarantee that anybody will be good."
Let's just get to the point here on the QBs so that you can further hide your head in shame on this thread where I feel like I'm channeling my inner Puppy and at minimum have taken one glove off you ignorant shithead. Here are all the primary UW starting QBs since 1977:
1977: Warren Moon (I think we know a bit about him)
1978: Tom Porras (USFL/CFL/Arena - approx.12 year career)
1979: Porras/Tom Flick (7 year NFL career)
1980: Flick
1981: Steve Pelluer (8 year NFL career)
1982: Pelluer
1983: Pelluer
1984: Hugh Millen (9 year NFL career)
1985: Hugh Millen
1986: Chris Chandler (17 year NFL career)
1987: Chandler
1988: Cary Conklin (5 year NFL career)
1989: Conklin
1990: Mark Brunell (19 year NFL career)
1991: Billy Joe Hobert (9 year NFL career)
1992: Hobert/Brunell
1993: Damon Huard (13 year NFL career)
1994: Huard
1995: Huard
1996: Brock Huard (6 year NFL career)
1997: Huard
1998: Huard
1999: Marques Tuiasosopo (8 year NFL career)
2000: Tui
2001: Cody Pickett (NFL/CFL)
2002: Pickett
2003: Pickett
2004: Casey Paus (Nothing)
2005: Isaiah Stanback (6 year NFL career, not as a QB)
2006: Stanback
2007: Jake Locker (4 year NFL career)
2008: Ronnie Fouch due to Locker injury (no NFL career)
2009: Locker
2010: Locker
2011: Keith Price (CFL)
2012: Keith Price
2013: Keith Price
2014: Cyler Miles (no NFL career)
2015: Jake Browning (TBD)
2016: Browning
So in the last 40 years of University of Washington football, only in 2004 (1-10), 2008 (0-12), and 2014 could you point to a roster where the starting QB wasn't at least a CFL player and the 2008 season the primary starter was only that due to a season-ending injury to the starter. On top of that, there's a small list of the players that played professionally that at least didn't get a sniff of being on NFL rosters being Porras in 1978 and Keith Price. Shocking that arguably the worst period of professional success for UW QBs comes from 2011-2014 and were all recruited and developed primarily by Sark ... shocking I tell you.
So if you're telling me over the next 40 years that the UW will have a 3 out of 40 chance each year of having a QB that isn't good enough to play professionally and well over a 75% chance that the primary starting QB on the roster will end up playing in the NFL somehow or someway, I think I'll take my chances. So to your point that we don't know shit about Sirmon you're right we don't. We know he's highly rated and that's normally a strong indicator. That being said, we tend to recruit a relatively strong QB option each year so whether it is Sirmon or somebody else, history tells you that the UW will have a QB worth a shit.
Please go play Frogger across the 101 or whatever will make you go splat against a windshield and keep you from posting worthless drivel about topics that you clearly don't know anything about.
I will comment on Nick Harris you doog piece of shit. Petersen had two classes before Harris' yet you blame Sark? Maybe Harris is just a fucking good player?
But how was Emmert a bad president?
Find one place where I said that Nick Harris playing was Sark's fault? Didn't happen. Learn to fucking read ... I called you the idiot for confusing Harris playing for being good ... that's the kind of FS thinking that Sark (and his like) would do ...
And BTW, don't write a fucking check that your ass can't cash (also known as this entire thread)
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