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The ranking of one-loss teams.

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  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    TTJ said:

    dnc said:

    The committee picking a 1 loss TAMU over a 1 loss UW wouldn't be indefensible. Picking a 1 loss TAMU over an undefeated UW would be, but that's not going to happen.

    Hasn't that already happened?
    Washington hasn't won the Pac-12 yet.

    If Washington does so with a 13-0 record, it will be in the playoff without a doubt.

    The Huskies might also get in by winning the conference with a 12-1 record.

    HTH
    Summed up perfectly.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    whuggy said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    Pretty sure the Committee doesn't want to be seen as favoring
    one conference over another. Also they are on record as giving great
    weight to conference champs. Could easily see Washington and
    OSU as one loss conference champs being picked over one loss
    A and M without a title. I think there's room for a USC fuckup.

    Disagree. If UW gets one loss it's not just a hypothetical 1 loss TAMU UW has to beat out, it's a hypothetical 1 loss Michigan and hypothetical 1 loss Louisville and whoever else.

    If UW drops a game we're settling for the Rose Bowel.
    One loss Michigan to OSU takes Michigan out
    of the conf. championship discussion doesn't it?
    Yes, but you're making a massive assumption that a conference title Trumps all. Yes, it's only been conference champs so far but we're talking about a small two year sample, but we can just as easily poont to the fact that nobody's made the playoff with a loss and as weak of a schedule as UW has this year so far.

    A 1 loss Michigan would be a real threat, especially if that game is close.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    TTJ said:

    dnc said:

    The committee picking a 1 loss TAMU over a 1 loss UW wouldn't be indefensible. Picking a 1 loss TAMU over an undefeated UW would be, but that's not going to happen.

    Hasn't that already happened?
    No
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    Pretty sure the Committee doesn't want to be seen as favoring
    one conference over another. Also they are on record as giving great
    weight to conference champs. Could easily see Washington and
    OSU as one loss conference champs being picked over one loss
    A and M without a title. I think there's room for a USC fuckup.

    Disagree. If UW gets one loss it's not just a hypothetical 1 loss TAMU UW has to beat out, it's a hypothetical 1 loss Michigan and hypothetical 1 loss Louisville and whoever else.

    If UW drops a game we're settling for the Rose Bowel.
    One loss Michigan to OSU takes Michigan out
    of the conf. championship discussion doesn't it?
    Yes, but you're making a massive assumption that a conference title Trumps all. Yes, it's only been conference champs so far but we're talking about a small two year sample, but we can just as easily poont to the fact that nobody's made the playoff with a loss and as weak of a schedule as UW has this year so far.

    A 1 loss Michigan would be a real threat, especially if that game is close.
    Just going by what the Committee has reportedly
    stated that they put great value on conf. champion.
    That reads to me as they value a champion more than they
    devalue a loss.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    Pretty sure the Committee doesn't want to be seen as favoring
    one conference over another. Also they are on record as giving great
    weight to conference champs. Could easily see Washington and
    OSU as one loss conference champs being picked over one loss
    A and M without a title. I think there's room for a USC fuckup.

    Disagree. If UW gets one loss it's not just a hypothetical 1 loss TAMU UW has to beat out, it's a hypothetical 1 loss Michigan and hypothetical 1 loss Louisville and whoever else.

    If UW drops a game we're settling for the Rose Bowel.
    One loss Michigan to OSU takes Michigan out
    of the conf. championship discussion doesn't it?
    Yes, but you're making a massive assumption that a conference title Trumps all. Yes, it's only been conference champs so far but we're talking about a small two year sample, but we can just as easily poont to the fact that nobody's made the playoff with a loss and as weak of a schedule as UW has this year so far.

    A 1 loss Michigan would be a real threat, especially if that game is close.
    Plus I just don't think that want the shitstorm that
    will come their way by including two teams from the same conference.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    whuggy said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    Pretty sure the Committee doesn't want to be seen as favoring
    one conference over another. Also they are on record as giving great
    weight to conference champs. Could easily see Washington and
    OSU as one loss conference champs being picked over one loss
    A and M without a title. I think there's room for a USC fuckup.

    Disagree. If UW gets one loss it's not just a hypothetical 1 loss TAMU UW has to beat out, it's a hypothetical 1 loss Michigan and hypothetical 1 loss Louisville and whoever else.

    If UW drops a game we're settling for the Rose Bowel.
    One loss Michigan to OSU takes Michigan out
    of the conf. championship discussion doesn't it?
    Yes, but you're making a massive assumption that a conference title Trumps all. Yes, it's only been conference champs so far but we're talking about a small two year sample, but we can just as easily poont to the fact that nobody's made the playoff with a loss and as weak of a schedule as UW has this year so far.

    A 1 loss Michigan would be a real threat, especially if that game is close.
    Just going by what the Committee has reportedly
    stated that they put great value on conf. champion.
    That reads to me as they value a champion more than they
    devalue a loss.
    Sincerely, spadoFS, hoops 2012
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,425 Standard Supporter
    whuggy said:

    whlinder said:

    Our best odds at making the playoff with 1 loss are probably to lose to Cal and then win out with Colorado in the P12 champ game. Maybe could pull it off with an ASU loss as well but the computers will hurt us more for losing at home.

    We'd have a decent case against 1 loss teams that aren't conference champs by being a conference champ but we'd also invite being passed by a 2-loss conference champ with a stronger profile like Wisconsin or Oklahoma if they were to win their conferences.

    I can't see any way they will take a 2 loss team.
    One loss Washington will have a decent profile
    especially with wins over WSU and USC/Colorado.
    Wisconsin, with two really close losses to Michigan and Ohio State, plus a non-conference win against LSU, if it turns around and beats Michigan or OSU in the B12 champ, has a better profile than we do. The committee has 5 B1G teams in the top 12 don't forget. B1G is also playing 9 conference games this year so their end of the year SoS will be pretty strong.

    10-2 Oklahoma, which would be 9-0 in the B12 with losses to Ohio State and Houston... I dunno.

    The long term takeaway here is that it is better for a conference to have 35-50% of your teams be really fucking good and have the rest of your conference be absolute fucking dreck than to have 75-90% of your teams be meh. More emphasis is placed on your top end games, even if complemented by complete dreck, than on playing a bunch of middle-tier games.
    (not that the P12 is middle tier this year but due to the fact we play 9 conf games the end of year records will reflect a bunch of middle tier teams)
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited November 2016
    dnc said:

    UW isn't going to get anywhere near the 14th toughest schedule in the country.

    Sagarin says that, as or right now, UW has the 14th toughest schedule the rest of the way.

    The thing that is more aggravating is that apparently getting ass-raped by alabama (which happened to the aggies) is apparently a badge of honor.

    Whatever, this is all just conversation and having something to talk about. Just win. That's it. Just win.