Penn State rushes the field after win vs Buckeyes in White Out game.
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
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The Huskies should start a tradition by running off the field and into The Zone, and sing their fight song for those standing in the beer line.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that. -
The zone might eat 2k fans at halftime that don't come back, but yesterday there were at least another 10k that never returned after halftime.DerekJohnson said:
The Huskies should start a tradition by running off the field and into The Zone, and sing their fight song for those standing in the beer line.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
If all you are going to watch is the first half of a game, why would you even come? I will never understand that.
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But traffic!!!!11!!1111!!!!11!!!!!ELEVEN!!!11!!!godawgst said:
The zone might eat 2k fans at halftime that don't come back, but yesterday there were at least another 10k that never returned after halftime.DerekJohnson said:
The Huskies should start a tradition by running off the field and into The Zone, and sing their fight song for those standing in the beer line.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
If all you are going to watch is the first half of a game, why would you even come? I will never understand that. -
Penn State, even when shitty, has a significantly better game day atmosphere than every single Pac-12 team.
Remember, those people care about Penn State football and nothing else. We have like 10 fans like that. -
You're forgetting the little boys.whlinder said:Penn State, even when shitty, has a significantly better game day atmosphere than every single Pac-12 team.
Remember, those people care about Penn State football and nothing else. We have like 10 fans like that. -
I agree with you @godawgst, but until the quality of our (?) opponents improve *and* we (?) restore the tradition of winning, I don't anticipate this changing.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
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#4 ranking.
Undefeated.
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Outside of Stanford, when I look at the garbage crowds of 30-45k 5 minutes before kick, approx. 1/5 of the crowds that leaves at halftime, a student section empty by the end of the third, etc, etc the posi-doog in me says "A generation of potential fans only know us as being barely average as a program so it will take more than 1/2 a season of being elite and special to get them in the stadium every week and to become invested in UW football"Doog_de_Jour said:
I agree with you @godawgst, but until the quality of our (?) opponents improve *and* we (?) restore the tradition of winning, I don't anticipate this changing.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
But the nega-doog chimes in and thinks "If being #4 and undefeated with this roster, how young we are, how recruiting is going, the apparent re-loading of the program so this thing looks like it is being built to last instead of perpetually re-building doesn't make a person want to get on this train what would?"
Sadly, I am more and more inclined to believe the nega-doog narrative is what ultimately plays out. When Scott W talked about making the new stadium have less than 70k, there was a outcry about taking seats out. I now believe the studies/data they had showed the late 70's-2001 Husky Football I grew up on was dead and not coming back -
Around 2002, there was talk of expanding the stadium to 90,000. It seems almost crazy now. I remember seeing artist's renditions of it.
My best guess is people are still in LIPO mode. Also, aren't tickets crazy expensive now? I haven't been to a gayme in Husky Stadium since Notre Dame in 2005. -
Tickets cost more than people are willing to spend. It's not the absolute cost as much as they'd rather do other things.whlinder said:Penn State, even when shitty, has a significantly better game day atmosphere than every single Pac-12 team.
Remember, those people care about Penn State football and nothing else. We have like 10 fans like that. -
Tickets on Stubhub @ Utah start at $120
USC @ UW start at $72 with good lower level seats @ $100, *no donation required
Buffalo Bills @ Seattle, section 309, standing room only start at $197
I blame Jen, the President and UW Board of Regents for fucking this up -
I remember that too but it was when Lambo was here, so I think that was around 1997.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Around 2002, there was talk of expanding the stadium to 90,000. It seems almost crazy now. I remember seeing artist's renditions of it.
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UW is surrounded by people who prefer sounders to CFB. It's the fan base. Star some lame thing called the dawg pac, with dawg pac flags, and put up a dawg pac noise o meter. Offer UW scarfs, hats, shirts etc at each game. Offer better scarfs and beanies for making more games. Make gameday a bit easier, and offer like beechers and bacon jam burgers, and dim sum even if it's overpriced. It's not that hard to attract people who don't care about football, just add in that lame shit and it's packed.doogie said:#4 ranking.
Undefeated.
What in the fuck are people waiting for other than perhaps a roster more inclusive of the Rainbow?
Oh and win.
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In most cases i would agree with all of you. But jesus fuck, it's oregon state. People came out for stanford and absolutely showed that UW can be UW of old. But sometimes you're going to have games where the team coming in has zero fans traveling and our fans choose that game as a time not to attend for any number of reasons. I would love to see it packed to the gills every fucking game too, but I do understand how oregon state isn't exactly a team casual fans are running down ticket scalpers for seats
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No racist pedophile crap!
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That's quite possible. I have to wonder how much the current success of the Seahawks plays into this. If I recall correctly, when Don James coached the team we were packing the seats with not only the Husky faithful, but also the casual Seattle sports fans because the Hawks were such shit back then. The stands were full for even the Oregon State game because the Dawgs were the hot ticket. Fast forward to now and all those casual fans would rather spend money to go to a Hawks game.FreeChavez said:In most cases i would agree with all of you. But jesus fuck, it's oregon state. People came out for stanford and absolutely showed that UW can be UW of old. But sometimes you're going to have games where the team coming in has zero fans traveling and our fans choose that game as a time not to attend for any number of reasons. I would love to see it packed to the gills every fucking game too, but I do understand how oregon state isn't exactly a team casual fans are running down ticket scalpers for seats
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Good lord. No stadium in the country stays full for part two of a 31-0 beat down of the little sisters of the poor.godawgst said:
The zone might eat 2k fans at halftime that don't come back, but yesterday there were at least another 10k that never returned after halftime.DerekJohnson said:
The Huskies should start a tradition by running off the field and into The Zone, and sing their fight song for those standing in the beer line.godawgst said:
You wouldn't know it because all you could see was the two goal posts as there wasn't one blade of grass that wasn't being covered by 120 yards worth of fans locked in arms singing the schools fight song.
I know Apples and Oranges versus the Beavers, but after our game, there were no students/fans to sing to, so the players got in a circle and sang their school fight song surrounded by cheerleaders.
This group of kids deserve better than that.
If all you are going to watch is the first half of a game, why would you even come? I will never understand that.
We're the #4 team in the country, with the undisputed tuffest home field advantage in the PAC (fuck off, Utah, with that muss shit) and you want to bitch about the fans?
I screamed my ass off for Stanford and rushed the field. I went to the zone on Saturday at halftime because I was losing my buzz and the game was boring and over. Sue me. -
The UW athletic department is a steaming pile of shit, no doubt. But I see this issue as a Janet Rheano type thing, with a lot of factors in play and many of them being inter-related. Pussy-ass scarftard fanbase, generation of losing, terrible marketing, the idea of not wanting to waste your entire day when literally every P5 team is on TV every Saturday, shit scheduling, being located in a major city with unlimited entertainment options as opposed to a school like Nebraska, the Seahawks have been good for most of the past 13 or so years while we? were in the gutter, etc.doogie said:Tickets on Stubhub @ Utah start at $120
USC @ UW start at $72 with good lower level seats @ $100, *no donation required
Buffalo Bills @ Seattle, section 309, standing room only start at $197
I blame Jen, the President and UW Board of Regents for fucking this up
And I may be wrong on this, but I really think the biggest factor is fucking ridiculous ticket prices, especially in THIS economy!!11!!!1! The stock market has never been higher but thanks to Obubba (and aided by Bush), real wages are down and the average family has less disposable income than any time since I've been alive. And with at-home viewing providing a better experience than ever, I think there's the 10-15k fans that used to provide a packed house can't/won't/refuse to pay the extremely expensive ticket prices. I'm mainly talking season tickets here because that is your base group, you can't count on variable individual game sales from week-to-week. I'm not taking into account shitty east endzone seats either. So if you just want a GA season ticket, you're shelling out over $70/game. And with Rutgers, the annual FCS team, Idaho and the Beavs, you're wasting $275 MINIMUM this year on games you don't care about and won't be fun or won't even go to. And if you and your wife (or preferably your kid's other dad) want tickets, you're wasting over $550 this year on shit games. Plus with demand being fairly low, there is no reason to spend that extra money when you can easily just cherry pick the few games you want to go to. So as a fucking general admission season ticket holder of 1 seat, you're essentially paying $166 per somewhat-meaningful game. That's just outrageous and especially at a time where people are having to budget their money, I see no scenario where this is not hurting ticket sales. And I don't blame people for saying 'fuck this' and not getting season tickets.
Oh...and if you want something other than GA, add a minimum of $250 per seat to that. And say you want your son to have memories of crisp Fall Saturday afternoons at the stadium with his 2 dads while not having to get to the stadium 3 hours early to squat on a seat, you're shelling out $2200+/yr. Plus parking, food, all that shit. But all kidding aside, it's hard for families to come up with that kind of money annually to see Pool Boy/Jen/Sark's genius C-C-C scheduling model in action. -
The more important quote in all of this is that this isnt' 1991 anymore where tube tv's were all the rage and you could literally only tell the difference between a while player, black player, a chincredible player and different color uniforms.
In today's world, I can buy a 70" 4k tv for what it would cost to take myself and son(or husband) to a season full of games. Then add on food, parking, headaches of traffic etc all for the love of watching oregon state. It's easier for me to say since i don't live near seattle to have teh pleasure of going to multiple games per year, but i'd rather just poney up for a few of the big games(a la going to utah this weekend), rather than pay the full boat to watch the dreck.
While I will crucify the wonderful AD at UW day in and day out, I do believe attendance will continue to be an issue for teams across the land. You'll still have your small pockets of people with nothing to do in their lives buck shuck corn and touch children between game days, but there has been a declining live fan base for some time now and tv is only making it easier to stay home with a few buddies anddo herionpractice blood draws on the couch while watching the game. -
... and standing room only tickets for the next Seattle Seahawks game vs. who? Start at $200 on the secondary market.
go figure -
Seahawk fans are known idiots.doogie said:... and standing room only tickets for the next Seattle Seahawks game vs. who? Start at $200 on the secondary market.
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People are more likely to buy tickets to see a team that's been winning for years than one that's winning for the first time in years.doogie said:... and standing room only tickets for the next Seattle Seahawks game vs. who? Start at $200 on the secondary market.
go figure
*Shocker*
Also, tickets are available for $61 to see them play the 49ers, so it's not like every game draws those huge prices on the secondary market. -
Agreed. The fact that taking your son and his other dad to see the mighty Vandals of Moscow will set you back nearly the same price as a smartly-booked (flight/2 nights hotel that wants your money...obviously the hookers and blow will be extra) weekend in Vegas is highway fucking robbery. Tits McCohen can whine all she wants while the CEO chastises his poasters for being bad fans but that doesn't change the fact that there's a certain section of the fanbase that isn't coming back. And if she cared about filling the stadium half as much as she pretends to, she'd make the tickets a more attractive option. But at the end of the day, they'd rather 10,000 $70 tickets go unsold than to get creative with different pricing structures. Or maybe try something radical like replacing Rutgers with Wisconsin and the FCS team du jour with BYU. Even during owentwelve, OU tickets were sold out during Fall camp and BYU looked pretty damn close. That would take effort, though. As well as actually being in touch with your core audience.FreeChavez said:The more important quote in all of this is that this isnt' 1991 anymore where tube tv's were all the rage and you could literally only tell the difference between a while player, black player, a chincredible player and different color uniforms.
In today's world, I can buy a 70" 4k tv for what it would cost to take myself and son(or husband) to a season full of games. Then add on food, parking, headaches of traffic etc all for the love of watching oregon state. It's easier for me to say since i don't live near seattle to have teh pleasure of going to multiple games per year, but i'd rather just poney up for a few of the big games(a la going to utah this weekend), rather than pay the full boat to watch the dreck.
While I will crucify the wonderful AD at UW day in and day out, I do believe attendance will continue to be an issue for teams across the land. You'll still have your small pockets of people with nothing to do in their lives buck shuck corn and touch children between game days, but there has been a declining live fan base for some time now and tv is only making it easier to stay home with a few buddies anddo herionpractice blood draws on the couch while watching the game.
And the whole 'real fan' argument, guilt trip garbage certain people throw out is pure horseshit. If you're a die-hard Husky fan 25 years ago and want to follow the team closely/see every game, your only option was to buy tickets. Whereas now, that same die-hard fan can follow the team just as closely without giving up his whole day and flushing a couple benjamins down the toilet. UW media relations/marketing/AD/whoever the fuck act as if all they need to do is announce 'football game' and they're entitled to my small fortune to see Portland State. When you can watch every single game, as Chavez said, on a 70" crystal-clear screen andshoot herointurn on the Bama game when the plungers have been broken out before halftime. And this is an issue all over, except for places like Ped State where there's literally nothing else to do. Wazzu can barely fill a high school stadium. Same with the beavs. An Oregon sellout has about the same number of fans as our worst attended games since expansion. Stanford's stadium is a morgue. Most Cal/Colorado/USC/UCLA/ASU games are lucky to be 3/4 full. I actually think 60k for Portland State is more than should be expected.
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If tv rights are what everyone says they are then in-stadium tickets should be under $50.
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Don't forget the Sounders and the Mariners as well.Doog_de_Jour said:
That's quite possible. I have to wonder how much the current success of the Seahawks plays into this. If I recall correctly, when Don James coached the team we were packing the seats with not only the Husky faithful, but also the casual Seattle sports fans because the Hawks were such shit back then. The stands were full for even the Oregon State game because the Dawgs were the hot ticket. Fast forward to now and all those casual fans would rather spend money to go to a Hawks game.FreeChavez said:In most cases i would agree with all of you. But jesus fuck, it's oregon state. People came out for stanford and absolutely showed that UW can be UW of old. But sometimes you're going to have games where the team coming in has zero fans traveling and our fans choose that game as a time not to attend for any number of reasons. I would love to see it packed to the gills every fucking game too, but I do understand how oregon state isn't exactly a team casual fans are running down ticket scalpers for seats
Attending sporting events is super fucking expensive now. I was looking through my old ticket stubs the other day and the Ducks vs. ASU in 1998 was $35. Today in that same spot with donation I would be way over $120 per seat. ASU sucked dick then and they suck dick now. Before Slingblade fucked this thing up in the simplest of forms it's still Oregon blowing out ASU at Autzen. Does that really justify a 400% increase just because 20 years has passed? I don't think so.
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Agreed. The fact that taking your son and his other dad to see the mighty Vandals of Moscow will set you back nearly the same price as a smartly-booked (flight/2 nights hotel that wants your money...obviously the hookers and blow will be extra) weekend in Vegas is highway fucking robbery. Tits McCohen can whine all she wants while the CEO chastises his poasters for being bad fans but that doesn't change the fact that there's a certain section of the fanbase that isn't coming back. And if she cared about filling the stadium half as much as she pretends to, she'd make the tickets a more attractive option. But at the end of the day, they'd rather 10,000 $70 tickets go unsold than to get creative with different pricing structures. Or maybe try something radical like replacing Rutgers with Wisconsin and the FCS team du jour with BYU. Even during owentwelve, OU tickets were sold out during Fall camp and BYU looked pretty damn close. That would take effort, though. As well as actually being in touch with your core audience.FreeChavez said:The more important quote in all of this is that this isnt' 1991 anymore where tube tv's were all the rage and you could literally only tell the difference between a while player, black player, a chincredible player and different color uniforms.
In today's world, I can buy a 70" 4k tv for what it would cost to take myself and son(or husband) to a season full of games. Then add on food, parking, headaches of traffic etc all for the love of watching oregon state. It's easier for me to say since i don't live near seattle to have teh pleasure of going to multiple games per year, but i'd rather just poney up for a few of the big games(a la going to utah this weekend), rather than pay the full boat to watch the dreck.
While I will crucify the wonderful AD at UW day in and day out, I do believe attendance will continue to be an issue for teams across the land. You'll still have your small pockets of people with nothing to do in their lives buck shuck corn and touch children between game days, but there has been a declining live fan base for some time now and tv is only making it easier to stay home with a few buddies anddo herionpractice blood draws on the couch while watching the game.
And the whole 'real fan' argument, guilt trip garbage certain people throw out is pure horseshit. If you're a die-hard Husky fan 25 years ago and want to follow the team closely/see every game, your only option was to buy tickets. Whereas now, that same die-hard fan can follow the team just as closely without giving up his whole day and flushing a couple benjamins down the toilet. UW media relations/marketing/AD/whoever the fuck act as if all they need to do is announce 'football game' and they're entitled to my small fortune to see Portland State. When you can watch every single game, as Chavez said, on a 70" crystal-clear screen andshoot herointurn on the Bama game when the plungers have been broken out before halftime. And this is an issue all over, except for places like Ped State where there's literally nothing else to do. Wazzu can barely fill a high school stadium. Same with the beavs. An Oregon sellout has about the same number of fans as our worst attended games since expansion. Stanford's stadium is a morgue. Most Cal/Colorado/USC/UCLA/ASU games are lucky to be 3/4 full. I actually think 60k for Portland State is more than should be expected. -
To play and beat someone who hasn't lost 80% or more of their games this Season.doogie said:#4 ranking.
Undefeated.
What in the fuck are people waiting for other than perhaps a roster more inclusive of the Rainbow? -
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever.
I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money)
My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone. -
@RoadDawg55-san excepted of course.Alexis said:Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever.
I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money)
My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone. -
Great fucking post.Alexis said:Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever.
I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money)
My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
