The more important quote in all of this is that this isnt' 1991 anymore where tube tv's were all the rage and you could literally only tell the difference between a while player, black player, a chincredible player and different color uniforms.
In today's world, I can buy a 70" 4k tv for what it would cost to take myself and son(or husband) to a season full of games. Then add on food, parking, headaches of traffic etc all for the love of watching oregon state. It's easier for me to say since i don't live near seattle to have teh pleasure of going to multiple games per year, but i'd rather just poney up for a few of the big games(a la going to utah this weekend), rather than pay the full boat to watch the dreck.
While I will crucify the wonderful AD at UW day in and day out, I do believe attendance will continue to be an issue for teams across the land. You'll still have your small pockets of people with nothing to do in their lives buck shuck corn and touch children between game days, but there has been a declining live fan base for some time now and tv is only making it easier to stay home with a few buddies and do herion practice blood draws on the couch while watching the game.
Agreed. The fact that taking your son and his other dad to see the mighty Vandals of Moscow will set you back nearly the same price as a smartly-booked (flight/2 nights hotel that wants your money...obviously the hookers and blow will be extra) weekend in Vegas is highway fucking robbery. Tits McCohen can whine all she wants while the CEO chastises his poasters for being bad fans but that doesn't change the fact that there's a certain section of the fanbase that isn't coming back. And if she cared about filling the stadium half as much as she pretends to, she'd make the tickets a more attractive option. But at the end of the day, they'd rather 10,000 $70 tickets go unsold than to get creative with different pricing structures. Or maybe try something radical like replacing Rutgers with Wisconsin and the FCS team du jour with BYU. Even during owentwelve, OU tickets were sold out during Fall camp and BYU looked pretty damn close. That would take effort, though. As well as actually being in touch with your core audience.
And the whole 'real fan' argument, guilt trip garbage certain people throw out is pure horseshit. If you're a die-hard Husky fan 25 years ago and want to follow the team closely/see every game, your only option was to buy tickets. Whereas now, that same die-hard fan can follow the team just as closely without giving up his whole day and flushing a couple benjamins down the toilet. UW media relations/marketing/AD/whoever the fuck act as if all they need to do is announce 'football game' and they're entitled to my small fortune to see Portland State. When you can watch every single game, as Chavez said, on a 70" crystal-clear screen and shoot heroin turn on the Bama game when the plungers have been broken out before halftime. And this is an issue all over, except for places like Ped State where there's literally nothing else to do. Wazzu can barely fill a high school stadium. Same with the beavs. An Oregon sellout has about the same number of fans as our worst attended games since expansion. Stanford's stadium is a morgue. Most Cal/Colorado/USC/UCLA/ASU games are lucky to be 3/4 full. I actually think 60k for Portland State is more than should be expected.
In most cases i would agree with all of you. But jesus fuck, it's oregon state. People came out for stanford and absolutely showed that UW can be UW of old. But sometimes you're going to have games where the team coming in has zero fans traveling and our fans choose that game as a time not to attend for any number of reasons. I would love to see it packed to the gills every fucking game too, but I do understand how oregon state isn't exactly a team casual fans are running down ticket scalpers for seats
That's quite possible. I have to wonder how much the current success of the Seahawks plays into this. If I recall correctly, when Don James coached the team we were packing the seats with not only the Husky faithful, but also the casual Seattle sports fans because the Hawks were such shit back then. The stands were full for even the Oregon State game because the Dawgs were the hot ticket. Fast forward to now and all those casual fans would rather spend money to go to a Hawks game.
Don't forget the Sounders and the Mariners as well.
Attending sporting events is super fucking expensive now. I was looking through my old ticket stubs the other day and the Ducks vs. ASU in 1998 was $35. Today in that same spot with donation I would be way over $120 per seat. ASU sucked dick then and they suck dick now. Before Slingblade fucked this thing up in the simplest of forms it's still Oregon blowing out ASU at Autzen. Does that really justify a 400% increase just because 20 years has passed? I don't think so.
Physical butts in seats will continue to dwindle with the priority of HD television.
The more important quote in all of this is that this isnt' 1991 anymore where tube tv's were all the rage and you could literally only tell the difference between a while player, black player, a chincredible player and different color uniforms.
In today's world, I can buy a 70" 4k tv for what it would cost to take myself and son(or husband) to a season full of games. Then add on food, parking, headaches of traffic etc all for the love of watching oregon state. It's easier for me to say since i don't live near seattle to have teh pleasure of going to multiple games per year, but i'd rather just poney up for a few of the big games(a la going to utah this weekend), rather than pay the full boat to watch the dreck.
While I will crucify the wonderful AD at UW day in and day out, I do believe attendance will continue to be an issue for teams across the land. You'll still have your small pockets of people with nothing to do in their lives buck shuck corn and touch children between game days, but there has been a declining live fan base for some time now and tv is only making it easier to stay home with a few buddies and do herion practice blood draws on the couch while watching the game.
Agreed. The fact that taking your son and his other dad to see the mighty Vandals of Moscow will set you back nearly the same price as a smartly-booked (flight/2 nights hotel that wants your money...obviously the hookers and blow will be extra) weekend in Vegas is highway fucking robbery. Tits McCohen can whine all she wants while the CEO chastises his poasters for being bad fans but that doesn't change the fact that there's a certain section of the fanbase that isn't coming back. And if she cared about filling the stadium half as much as she pretends to, she'd make the tickets a more attractive option. But at the end of the day, they'd rather 10,000 $70 tickets go unsold than to get creative with different pricing structures. Or maybe try something radical like replacing Rutgers with Wisconsin and the FCS team du jour with BYU. Even during owentwelve, OU tickets were sold out during Fall camp and BYU looked pretty damn close. That would take effort, though. As well as actually being in touch with your core audience.
And the whole 'real fan' argument, guilt trip garbage certain people throw out is pure horseshit. If you're a die-hard Husky fan 25 years ago and want to follow the team closely/see every game, your only option was to buy tickets. Whereas now, that same die-hard fan can follow the team just as closely without giving up his whole day and flushing a couple benjamins down the toilet. UW media relations/marketing/AD/whoever the fuck act as if all they need to do is announce 'football game' and they're entitled to my small fortune to see Portland State. When you can watch every single game, as Chavez said, on a 70" crystal-clear screen and shoot heroin turn on the Bama game when the plungers have been broken out before halftime. And this is an issue all over, except for places like Ped State where there's literally nothing else to do. Wazzu can barely fill a high school stadium. Same with the beavs. An Oregon sellout has about the same number of fans as our worst attended games since expansion. Stanford's stadium is a morgue. Most Cal/Colorado/USC/UCLA/ASU games are lucky to be 3/4 full. I actually think 60k for Portland State is more than should be expected.
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever. I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money) My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever. I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money) My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever. I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money) My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever. I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money) My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
Discussion has been had numerous times before. Husky stadium will never be what it was because the school has spent the last couple of decades chasing off the types of fans that made it what it was forever. I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money) My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.
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Also, tickets are available for $61 to see them play the 49ers, so it's not like every game draws those huge prices on the secondary market.
And the whole 'real fan' argument, guilt trip garbage certain people throw out is pure horseshit. If you're a die-hard Husky fan 25 years ago and want to follow the team closely/see every game, your only option was to buy tickets. Whereas now, that same die-hard fan can follow the team just as closely without giving up his whole day and flushing a couple benjamins down the toilet. UW media relations/marketing/AD/whoever the fuck act as if all they need to do is announce 'football game' and they're entitled to my small fortune to see Portland State. When you can watch every single game, as Chavez said, on a 70" crystal-clear screen and
shoot herointurn on the Bama game when the plungers have been broken out before halftime. And this is an issue all over, except for places like Ped State where there's literally nothing else to do. Wazzu can barely fill a high school stadium. Same with the beavs. An Oregon sellout has about the same number of fans as our worst attended games since expansion. Stanford's stadium is a morgue. Most Cal/Colorado/USC/UCLA/ASU games are lucky to be 3/4 full. I actually think 60k for Portland State is more than should be expected.Attending sporting events is super fucking expensive now. I was looking through my old ticket stubs the other day and the Ducks vs. ASU in 1998 was $35. Today in that same spot with donation I would be way over $120 per seat. ASU sucked dick then and they suck dick now. Before Slingblade fucked this thing up in the simplest of forms it's still Oregon blowing out ASU at Autzen. Does that really justify a 400% increase just because 20 years has passed? I don't think so.
Physical butts in seats will continue to dwindle with the priority of HD television.
I went to the games with my (main) dad since I was about 8. Grew up a huge fan. Went to bowl games. Entered UW and continued to buy tickets afterwards (I hate money)
My youngest son, who had been coming to games with me since he was about 8, and was a huge UW fan until last spring when he didn't get into UW, with better grades than I ever had. He's now going to games in Tempe, and probably will never come back.
Asians don't like football. Out of state students who get into UW don't always stay up here after graduation. The grads who do like football, stay in the area, and have the tyee money are now software geeks who get one or two tickets, not owners of construction companies and car dealerships who get 8 tickets and give them out to clients.
A few years of good teams will bring over the 12s, the neck tattooed Maple Valley guys, but the group that always assured Husky Stadium of a sellout is long dead and gone.