Big 12 to not add any new teams for now
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Big TV is undefeated as usual.
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That league dies in 9 years.
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unless they beat us out in the Chinese market.TierbsHsotBoobs said:That league dies in 9 years.
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Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU. Probably for the best since BYU ran for 900 yards in their home and home with UT a few years back.
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No major conference has ever wanted them. Not sure why Y thought it would be different this time around. Big 12-2 has been eyeing ACC teams to no avail. The only hope for that conference is buyers remorse from a few SEC teams. Pig, Aggie, & Mizzou fit right in traditionally and geographically.Gladstone said:Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU.
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You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SECPurple_Pills said:
No major conference has ever wanted them. Not sure why Y thought it would be different this time around. Big 12-2 has been eyeing ACC teams to no avail. The only hope for that conference is buyers remorse from a few SEC teams. Pig, Aggie, & Mizzou fit right in traditionally and geographically.Gladstone said:Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU.
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What if the ESPN pay cable model collapses?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SEC
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Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.Purple_Pills said:
What if the ESPN pay cable model collapses?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SEC -
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
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Those purple pills must be some good shit.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest. -
Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.FremontTroll said:
Those purple pills must be some good shit.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest. -
Maybe you eventually end up with 30-32 teams in a super conference, and decide to form a league with eight divisions. Then you link it up with the NFL and begin using promotion and relegation to give the top teams something tangible to fight over. Then you get the next 30-32 teams and do the same thing. And so on, and so. Bam.
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The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up. -
We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn networkgreenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up. -
And the conference model potentially falling apart means schools might leave the SEC for the B12 how exactly?doogsinparadise said:Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.FremontTroll said:
Those purple pills must be some good shit.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest. -
I'll solve this whole thing here really quick.
TV subscription is dying and will soon be completely dead. However, each individual network will have either a sole streaming option or will out together packages with the other networks they own. The same number of eyes or even more will he watching on a screen. The way it gets to that screen means fuck-all.
Here is how you solve everything in the current landscape. You split the country into four zones east to west, then make a north and south. You make the playoff eight teams. Each region has 16 teams. If you want to have a soccer style relegation so be it, it won't happen, but pretend if you want.
The winner of the North & South of each region makes the playoff.
The big boys are all together, the mid majors can create their own thing that will absolutely be watched, especially the post season, and FCS stays irrelevant. -
sadly, this is true. more sad is that Larry Scott doesn't even give a shit that it's true. He's more chinterested in potential fans than actual fans.RaceBannon said:
We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn networkgreenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.
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It should have gone this route a few years ago when it was last discussed and Texas wanted their own network. The 4 team playoff should create the need for 4 16 team super conferences. Then it's really an 8 team playoff because the 4 conference championships effectively are an additional playoff game.greenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.
That will never happen because it will render the polls useless. And the selection committee full of important people like Ty will be rendered useless.
The current model is doing to change already. DirecTV has already stated they are going away from dishes and boxes to the internet in 4 years. I think we'll be paying for a conglomerate of channels through the internet soon. -
Very trueRaceBannon said:
We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn networkgreenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up. -
The credibility of polls isn't why we don't have super conferences and an expanded playoff. We don't have an expanded playoff because we have dumb commissioners like Larry Scott that think they make more money with bowl sponsorships from AT&T, Tostitos, GoDaddy, 2000 Flushes, etc.2001400ex said:
It should have gone this route a few years ago when it was last discussed and Texas wanted their own network. The 4 team playoff should create the need for 4 16 team super conferences. Then it's really an 8 team playoff because the 4 conference championships effectively are an additional playoff game.greenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.
That will never happen because it will render the polls useless. And the selection committee full of important people like Ty will be rendered useless.
The current model is doing to change already. DirecTV has already stated they are going away from dishes and boxes to the internet in 4 years. I think we'll be paying for a conglomerate of channels through the internet soon.
Super conferences are already in the making in the ACC, SEC, and Big 10. The last conference to make the jump will either be the Big 12 or the Pac 12. The reason the Big 12 hasn't disbanded yet is because schools like Baylor, TCU, Kansas, Kansas St., and Iowa St. will be left in the cold. These schools will accept anything to keep the conference together even letting Texas have their TV deal. However, schools like Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., and Texas Tech with some leverage can force Texas' hand.
Texas would not be in the Big 12 right now if they didn't have their own separate TV deal.
West Virginia is irrelevant because they would more likely be picked up by the ACC or Big 10 once the shit hit the fans. Those are actually better conferences for them geographically anyhow. -
The Big 12 is fine in its current state as long as Texas and Oklahoma are making comparable money to the major schools in the other P5 conferences. When they don't, that's when you will see everything go tits up.
The assumption that it's an automatic that it will be the Okie schools + Texas + Texas Tech is a little too flawed IMO because Tech really doesn't bring much to the table. Tech's really not good at anything and is far from being in any kind of geographic market.
Even if you assume that it's those 4 schools going in other directions, each conference needs to still add teams to get to the totals that are required for 16 in each ... Big 10, ACC, and SEC all need 2 each. Big 10 will be taking Kansas and ??? (maybe Kansas State). ACC will likely finally get around to taking UConn and ???. SEC would likely take someone from Texas (likely TCU if they don't go West to the PAC) and who knows who else.
The idea that some probably would have that TCU is screwed in a reorganization is not paying attention. The athletic programs in key sports are very good (football is football, baseball has been to the College World Series 3 straight years, basketball just hired Jamie Dixon). The location is strong located in the DFW market. Academics are respected. They will be going somewhere. To me it is a stronger pull than Texas Tech ... most Tech alums don't give a shit ... -
Exactly... the new distribution models for TV favor the networks and not the traditional sat and cable carriers.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest. -
Way to plagiarize my shit fuck-O.2001400ex said:
It should have gone this route a few years ago when it was last discussed and Texas wanted their own network. The 4 team playoff should create the need for 4 16 team super conferences. Then it's really an 8 team playoff because the 4 conference championships effectively are an additional playoff game.greenblood said:The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.
Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.
That will never happen because it will render the polls useless. And the selection committee full of important people like Ty will be rendered useless.
The current model is doing to change already. DirecTV has already stated they are going away from dishes and boxes to the internet in 4 years. I think we'll be paying for a conglomerate of channels through the internet soon. -
The funny thing is if the cable bubble bursts the PAC-12 is actually in a great spot, in fact, they might be rooting for it.
About the only good thing Scott has done was make sure the conference has full ownership of its network. It sucks for right now because they can't get into as many households without the cable companies backing it; but if shit hits the fan the conference could make SERIOUS money with 100% ownership. -
Read for comprehension next time.FremontTroll said:
And the conference model potentially falling apart means schools might leave the SEC for the B12 how exactly?doogsinparadise said:Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.FremontTroll said:
Those purple pills must be some good shit.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
Plagiarisms my shit fucko.Mosster47 said:I'll solve this whole thing here really quick.
TV subscription is dying and will soon be completely dead. However, each individual network will have either a sole streaming option or will out together packages with the other networks they own. The same number of eyes or even more will he watching on a screen. The way it gets to that screen means fuck-all.
Here is how you solve everything in the current landscape. You split the country into four zones east to west, then make a north and south. You make the playoff eight teams. Each region has 16 teams. If you want to have a soccer style relegation so be it, it won't happen, but pretend if you want.
The winner of the North & South of each region makes the playoff.
The big boys are all together, the mid majors can create their own thing that will absolutely be watched, especially the post season, and FCS stays irrelevant. -
You have to have a desirable product to make SERIOUS money.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:The funny thing is if the cable bubble bursts the PAC-12 is actually in a great spot, in fact, they might be rooting for it.
About the only good thing Scott has done was make sure the conference has full ownership of its network. It sucks for right now because they can't get into as many households without the cable companies backing it; but if shit hits the fan the conference could make SERIOUS money with 100% ownership. -
How do you explain the rise in Reality TV programming?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You have to have a desirable product to make SERIOUS money.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:The funny thing is if the cable bubble bursts the PAC-12 is actually in a great spot, in fact, they might be rooting for it.
About the only good thing Scott has done was make sure the conference has full ownership of its network. It sucks for right now because they can't get into as many households without the cable companies backing it; but if shit hits the fan the conference could make SERIOUS money with 100% ownership. -
You are out of your element Donnie.doogsinparadise said:
Read for comprehension next time.FremontTroll said:
And the conference model potentially falling apart means schools might leave the SEC for the B12 how exactly?doogsinparadise said:Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.FremontTroll said:
Those purple pills must be some good shit.Purple_Pills said:
I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.
Plagiarisms my shit fucko.Mosster47 said:I'll solve this whole thing here really quick.
TV subscription is dying and will soon be completely dead. However, each individual network will have either a sole streaming option or will out together packages with the other networks they own. The same number of eyes or even more will he watching on a screen. The way it gets to that screen means fuck-all.
Here is how you solve everything in the current landscape. You split the country into four zones east to west, then make a north and south. You make the playoff eight teams. Each region has 16 teams. If you want to have a soccer style relegation so be it, it won't happen, but pretend if you want.
The winner of the North & South of each region makes the playoff.
The big boys are all together, the mid majors can create their own thing that will absolutely be watched, especially the post season, and FCS stays irrelevant.
Purple Pills argued that the Big12 could poach from the SEC. Because the conference model might fall apart. -
Here's a great piece on Mizzou's move from the B12 to SEC:
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/zero-trust-inside-mizzou-s-move-to-the-southeastern-conference -
People desire bullshit in this country.Baseman said:
How do you explain the rise in Reality TV programming?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You have to have a desirable product to make SERIOUS money.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:The funny thing is if the cable bubble bursts the PAC-12 is actually in a great spot, in fact, they might be rooting for it.
About the only good thing Scott has done was make sure the conference has full ownership of its network. It sucks for right now because they can't get into as many households without the cable companies backing it; but if shit hits the fan the conference could make SERIOUS money with 100% ownership.
