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Stop and frisk

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Trump says crime up since stop and frisk ended, and it clearly was not ruled unconstitutional in Trump's world.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-fact-checks-donald-trumps-debate-claims-on-crime-163116856.html
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    It was ruled by one judge and not pursued by the current mayor
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It was ruled by one judge and not pursued by the current mayor

    So, you agree it was ruled unconstitutional.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    It was ruled by one judge and not pursued by the current mayor

    So, you agree it was ruled unconstitutional.
    But it's not unconstitutional, like Trump said. Holt was wrong. Again
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Hey ho hey ho, this police state has got to go!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    It was ruled by one judge and not pursued by the current mayor

    So, you agree it was ruled unconstitutional.
    But it's not unconstitutional, like Trump said. Holt was wrong. Again
    I truly hope you are trolling and don't believe this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    edited September 2016
    Read the fucking article.

    "The majority opinion, written by then-Chief Justice Earl Warren, approved the constitutionality of stopping a suspect if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that a person has committed, or was about to commit, a crime. If the officer also has a reasonable suspicion the person is armed, he can conduct a pat-down—that is, a frisk—of a person’s outer clothing."



    New York police equated "black person standing on the corner" to "reasonable suspicion that a person has committed, or was about to commit, a crime."


    Fuck off.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    dflea said:

    You have to be a huge commie pinko faggot to support a stop and frisk policy.

    Fuck you for stopping anyone without a reason to, and double fuck you for frisking anyone without cause.

    But free access to my email, phone conversations and text messages without probable cause or warrant is a great thing.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Blackie said:

    Read the fucking article.

    "The majority opinion, written by then-Chief Justice Earl Warren, approved the constitutionality of stopping a suspect if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that a person has committed, or was about to commit, a crime. If the officer also has a reasonable suspicion the person is armed, he can conduct a pat-down—that is, a frisk—of a person’s outer clothing."



    New York police equated "black person standing on the corner" to "reasonable suspicion that a person has committed, or was about to commit, a crime."


    Fuck off.
    I'm not defending stop and frisk and I know you are against it but the fact is that it is constitutional and one NY judge ruling against it without it going up on appeal doesn't change that. Nor does it prohibit it in Chicago

    So fuck off right back at you
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    dflea said:

    You have to be a huge commie pinko faggot to support a stop and frisk policy.

    Fuck you for stopping anyone without a reason to, and double fuck you for frisking anyone without cause.

    But free access to my precious bodily fluids without probable cause or warrant is a great thing.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    dflea said:

    You have to be a huge commie pinko faggot to support a stop and frisk policy.

    Fuck you for stopping anyone without a reason to, and double fuck you for frisking anyone without cause.

    But free access to my email, phone conversations and text messages without probable cause or warrant is a great thing.
    Who the fuck said that? Oh - you were just being a dumb cunt.

    Never mind.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Nice sHillary mindless rant, as always
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    Nice sHillary mindless rant, as always

    Nice weak attempt to make it sound like I'm going to vote for Hillary.

    If you ever tire of being like a dumb cunt, post again.

    Or just kill yourself.

    Whichever.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    doogie said:

    dflea said:

    You have to be a huge commie pinko faggot to support a stop and frisk policy.

    Fuck you for stopping anyone without a reason to, and double fuck you for frisking anyone without cause.

    But free access to my email, phone conversations and text messages without probable cause or warrant is a great thing.
    2 different issues.

    But both are wrong.

    HTH
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    He won't release his tax return but he'll check your ass hole for weapons.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?

    What is Hillary afraid of?
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,277
    They stop and frisk everyone one at Costco when leaving....why not on the streets?
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499

    So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?

    What is Hillary afraid of?

    much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Blackie said:

    So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?

    What is Hillary afraid of?

    much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.
    Thank you for your service

    Rights are not God given despite the flowery language of the founding two dads, they are bought with blood
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    "Inalienable rights"
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Blackie said:

    So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?

    What is Hillary afraid of?

    much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.
    Thank you for your service

    Rights are not God given despite the flowery language of the founding two dads, they are bought with cash
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Blackie said:

    Blackie said:

    So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?

    What is Hillary afraid of?

    much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.
    Thank you for your service

    Rights are not God given despite the flowery language of the founding two dads, they are bought with blood
    Disagree.

    Rights are natural. They're arbitrarily removed to varying degrees at birth based on the degree to which you lose the birthplace government lottery.
    There is nothing in the history of mankind to support rights being natural. Its a great theory, same as them being God given, but you won't have them without blood. It gives a reason to fight for them and have them but you'll be a serf or a slave if you wait for them to fall on you like ripe cherries out of a tree.

    The natural order is survival of the fittest.