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Jacob Sirmon: "We hate Woodinville"

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  • picalogestabo
    picalogestabo Member Posts: 651

    Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.

    If yer comparing Sirmon to a rapist then I'm out.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,278 Founders Club

    Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.

    If yer comparing Sirmon to a rapist then I'm out.
    Gilbert plea bargained out of the rape charge, if memory serves
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Did @Tequilla just leak that @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung are really PurpleDoucheFan????
    Tequilla said:

    I've seen enough of HS football in my life to know that even the best players can look like shit for any number of factors but still have no problem being a good/great player at the college level when surrounded with like level talent.

    Watching most of the GK-Sumner game last night, if you just went on the numbers you'd think Connor Wedington sucked ... then he turned in one great play at the end where you just realize that yes, he'll be fine at the next level.

    You're right ... I didn't watch the game between Bothell and Woodinville. If you're saying that Sirmon was under pressure all night that tells me that Woodinville had superior line play and that probably put him in a position to look "ordinary" as you say. Let's be honest, most HS QBs (particularly in the state of Washington) are generally not spectacular when it comes to being able to manipulate the pocket and play well under pressure because MOST of the surrounding talent is very subpar.

    With all due respect, if I'm going to take advice on TBS related matters, I'm going to listen to @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung who spend a ton of time watching game tape and films on recruits. If they like Sirmon, that's good enough for me.

    I've said this elsewhere before and I'll say it again, generally speaking, Washington HS football isn't particularly good. The elite players are good enough to play against anybody. But the talent gap between the elite players and the remaining players is vast. Even Kingco in Washington isn't in a position where each roster is littered with high end D1 prospects similar to what can be found in top leagues in places like California, Texas, and Florida.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    There's a lot of fucktard in this thread
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.

    Did you watch the GK and Sumner game Thursday?

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited September 2016
    I'm with Derek, pull his offer!!!!!
  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901

    Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.

    If yer comparing Sirmon to a rapist then I'm out.
    Gilbert plea bargained out of the rape charge, if memory serves
    Did he plead for an extra inch of consensuality? Chinsensuality.
  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.

    The complete shit comment was uncalled for. He just really failed to meet expectations.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    DeepSeaZ said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
    He's what 16 years old and at worst won't be taking a snap at UW for at least 2.5 years. Start with the measurables and arm strength and then worry about the rest later. I don't care about how shitty his OL or WRs are at the HS level ... he won't be playing with players of that caliber going forward.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
    He's what 16 years old and at worst won't be taking a snap at UW for at least 2.5 years. Start with the measurables and arm strength and then worry about the rest later. I don't care about how shitty his OL or WRs are at the HS level ... he won't be playing with players of that caliber going forward.
    Jack Lockner had great measurables and shit but he fucking sucked because he didn't know how to play quarterback.

    Same shit, different phenom now.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
    He's what 16 years old and at worst won't be taking a snap at UW for at least 2.5 years. Start with the measurables and arm strength and then worry about the rest later. I don't care about how shitty his OL or WRs are at the HS level ... he won't be playing with players of that caliber going forward.
    Jack Lockner had great measurables and shit but he fucking sucked because he didn't know how to play quarterback.

    Same shit, different phenom now.
    And the point is that when you have an option to take a player like Locker you do it every single day of the week and hope that you can develop the player.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
    He's what 16 years old and at worst won't be taking a snap at UW for at least 2.5 years. Start with the measurables and arm strength and then worry about the rest later. I don't care about how shitty his OL or WRs are at the HS level ... he won't be playing with players of that caliber going forward.
    Jack Lockner had great measurables and shit but he fucking sucked because he didn't know how to play quarterback.

    Same shit, different phenom now.
    And the point is that when you have an option to take a player like Locker you do it every single day of the week and hope that you can develop the player.
    I'd rather get a guy with 81% of the measurables who can actually play QB.

    If UW gets Sirmon, they need to convert him to WR or TE or waterboy.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Tequilla said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.

    Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
    Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
    So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
    He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
    He's what 16 years old and at worst won't be taking a snap at UW for at least 2.5 years. Start with the measurables and arm strength and then worry about the rest later. I don't care about how shitty his OL or WRs are at the HS level ... he won't be playing with players of that caliber going forward.
    Jack Lockner had great measurables and shit but he fucking sucked because he didn't know how to play quarterback.

    Same shit, different phenom now.
    And the point is that when you have an option to take a player like Locker you do it every single day of the week and hope that you can develop the player.
    I'd rather get a guy with 81% of the measurables who can actually play QB.

    If UW gets Sirmon, they need to convert him to WR or TE or waterboy.
    like Browning?
    Yes. For all of his Brownsocking issues, I'd rather have him than some fag who talks shit then chokes.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    This is all so hopeless
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    This is all so hopeless

    It's why some of us have a podcast that talks a lot of recruiting and others don't
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    After they become starters
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Sirmon will be playing against Skyline televised on ROOT in 2 weeks. If he plays badly in that game too then that's when I think we start worrying.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    This is all so hopeless

    It's why some of us have a podcast that talks a lot of recruiting and others don't
    NAMBLA gonna NAMBLA
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    edited September 2016
    Jesus. One fucking game. He had a shit O-line last year. That line is incrementally better this year. Kid is still a junior and has almost 2 full seasons left to play. He is less than half way through his high school career in terms of games played. Not worried in the least about this game. Besides we get Dylan Morris in 2019.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Jesus. One fucking game. He had a shit O-line last year. That line is incrementally better this year. Kid is still a junior and has almost 2 full seasons left to play. He is less than half way through his high school career. Not worried in the least about this game. Besides we get Dylan Morris in 2019.

    Losers lose after talking shit.
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    Jesus. One fucking game. He had a shit O-line last year. That line is incrementally better this year. Kid is still a junior and has almost 2 full seasons left to play. He is less than half way through his high school career. Not worried in the least about this game. Besides we get Dylan Morris in 2019.

    Losers lose after talking shit.
    Shit poasters poast shit.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Jesus. One fucking game. He had a shit O-line last year. That line is incrementally better this year. Kid is still a junior and has almost 2 full seasons left to play. He is less than half way through his high school career. Not worried in the least about this game. Besides we get Dylan Morris in 2019.

    Losers lose after talking shit.
    Shit poasters poast shit.
    Yes you do.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Wdwha.

    Later guys.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Jesus. One fucking game. He had a shit O-line last year. That line is incrementally better this year. Kid is still a junior and has almost 2 full seasons left to play. He is less than half way through his high school career in terms of games played. Not worried in the least about this game. Besides we get Dylan Morris in 2019.

    Dylan Morris looked like he sucked against Sumner ... we probably shouldn't go after him either