Paid Leave
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Papooses to you honeySwaye said:
Wait. You have kids? That aren't mine? What in the holy fuck!dnc said:
I think 6 weeks maternity/one week paternity leave should be mandatory, but I think paid or unpaid should be the company's choice.greenblood said:
If businesses want to offer it they can, but the government shouldn't make them. I think it's a good thing if a business offers it, but again it should be their choice. This is an issue the government has no business getting into. Maternity/Paternity leave is already offered, and paid depending on the business.doogsinparadise said:You are so fucking wrong that it hurts.
If your company doesn't offer it, then find a new job. But don't gripe about it being unfair.
I took two weeks vacation time for paternity leave with both of my kids. It was awesome, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. And I didn't resent my employer for not paying for it, we planned our vacation time for it. My wife took 6 weeks maternity for both of them, unpaid. Would have been awesome had it been paid, but we weren't in that position. I don't think it's anybody else's responsibility to pay for me to have kids. If they wouldn't have let her get the time off or would have let her go during her time off I would have been pissed though. -
TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Trump is a big government liberal which is why Race loves him.
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We already pay the most in the world for childbirth:
Would be nice for our wives to not have to return to work with a bleeding vagina and an empty wallet.
But fuck it, if Papua New Guinea is doing it, you know it's right.
I'd be all for setting up an unemployment-like fund that you can opt-in and draw up to $500 a week, preferably based on a percentage of what you pay into. Three month minimum for maternity, two weeks for paternity.
There isn't enough job mobility or freedom of information to leave these benefits up to employers. I can't go to fucking Amazon.com and pick out the employer with the best maternity leave. Leave employers out of it altogether. -
Pretty much agree. If society at large wants this subsidy, tax for it so everybody contributes, even the employees themselves. Otherwise, it's just raiding the business's bank account for things it has no control over and derives no ROI for.UWhuskytskeet said:We already pay the most in the world for childbirth:
Would be nice for our wives to not have to return to work with a bleeding vagina and an empty wallet.
But fuck it, if Papua New Guinea is doing it, you know it's right.
I'd be all for setting up an unemployment-like fund that you can opt-in and draw up to $500 a week, preferably based on a percentage of what you pay into. Three month minimum for maternity, two weeks for paternity.
There isn't enough job mobility or freedom of information to leave these benefits up to employers. I can't go to fucking Amazon.com and pick out the employer with the best maternity leave. Leave employers out of it altogether. -
Options that include tax credits or employer subsidies, the cost of which will be passed along to consumers, snag monies from non beneficiaries. The best and most fair solution is an employee funded portable HSA. If you can't afford to fund the HSA, then you can't afford kids and shouldn't have them. If you can, then you're demonstrating a level of responsibility commensurate with being a parent, and you should have kids if you choose to.TurdBuffer said:
Pretty much agree. If society at large wants this subsidy, tax for it so everybody contributes, even the employees themselves. Otherwise, it's just raiding the business's bank account for things it has no control over and derives no ROI for.UWhuskytskeet said:We already pay the most in the world for childbirth:
Would be nice for our wives to not have to return to work with a bleeding vagina and an empty wallet.
But fuck it, if Papua New Guinea is doing it, you know it's right.
I'd be all for setting up an unemployment-like fund that you can opt-in and draw up to $500 a week, preferably based on a percentage of what you pay into. Three month minimum for maternity, two weeks for paternity.
There isn't enough job mobility or freedom of information to leave these benefits up to employers. I can't go to fucking Amazon.com and pick out the employer with the best maternity leave. Leave employers out of it altogether. -
Swaye said:
Wait. You have kids? That aren't mine? What in the holy fuck!dnc said:
I think 6 weeks maternity/one week paternity leave should be mandatory, but I think paid or unpaid should be the company's choice.greenblood said:
If businesses want to offer it they can, but the government shouldn't make them. I think it's a good thing if a business offers it, but again it should be their choice. This is an issue the government has no business getting into. Maternity/Paternity leave is already offered, and paid depending on the business.doogsinparadise said:You are so fucking wrong that it hurts.
If your company doesn't offer it, then find a new job. But don't gripe about it being unfair.
I took two weeks vacation time for paternity leave with both of my kids. It was awesome, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. And I didn't resent my employer for not paying for it, we planned our vacation time for it. My wife took 6 weeks maternity for both of them, unpaid. Would have been awesome had it been paid, but we weren't in that position. I don't think it's anybody else's responsibility to pay for me to have kids. If they wouldn't have let her get the time off or would have let her go during her time off I would have been pissed though.
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Funny the response to this. If it were Hillary, you'd call her a communist. But because the person who said it had an R next to his name, some of you disagree but there's no outrage.
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But, but, but: There's a huge cost to only subsidizing poor people and immigrants having all the kids like we do now. An immigrant family nearby has 10 kids, lives in an SHA house, and we pay for it all. Since those programs aren't going anywhere soon, we need to balance the subsidies so having kids isn't cost prohibitive for productive, responsible middle-class and working-class families, too.Southerndawg said:
Options that include tax credits or employer subsidies, the cost of which will be passed along to consumers, snag monies from non beneficiaries. The best and most fair solution is an employee funded portable HSA. If you can't afford to fund the HSA, then you can't afford kids and shouldn't have them. If you can, then you're demonstrating a level of responsibility commensurate with being a parent, and you should have kids if you choose to.TurdBuffer said:
Pretty much agree. If society at large wants this subsidy, tax for it so everybody contributes, even the employees themselves. Otherwise, it's just raiding the business's bank account for things it has no control over and derives no ROI for.UWhuskytskeet said:We already pay the most in the world for childbirth:
Would be nice for our wives to not have to return to work with a bleeding vagina and an empty wallet.
But fuck it, if Papua New Guinea is doing it, you know it's right.
I'd be all for setting up an unemployment-like fund that you can opt-in and draw up to $500 a week, preferably based on a percentage of what you pay into. Three month minimum for maternity, two weeks for paternity.
There isn't enough job mobility or freedom of information to leave these benefits up to employers. I can't go to fucking Amazon.com and pick out the employer with the best maternity leave. Leave employers out of it altogether.
It's just wrong to mandate that the employer pays for it. Again, if society at large supports it, it should be a tax, not a penalty exacted on successful businesses. -
I wish the govt had paid your mom to give you a scrape job.greenblood said:Now Trump is making this part of his agenda.
Having a child is a choice. If you can't afford a child don't have a child. An employer shouldn't have to pay for paternity or maternity leave.
I don't care if other countries pay it. The other countries have it wrong.
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HurtfulBallSacked said:
I wish the govt had paid your mom to give you a scrape job.greenblood said:Now Trump is making this part of his agenda.
Having a child is a choice. If you can't afford a child don't have a child. An employer shouldn't have to pay for paternity or maternity leave.
I don't care if other countries pay it. The other countries have it wrong.
