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Obama ILLEGALLY paid $400 million ransom to Iran and Lied about it...

HoustonHusky
HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
HondoFS and OZONEfs said it was a settlement for an arms purchase back in 1970s and it wasn't a ransom, but we find out first we secretly paid them $400 million in cash, they wouldn't let the flight leave until the agreed upon cash arrived, and now we find out the claim Obama used as an excuse to pay was thrown out by the Tribunal in 2009:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR2009102103222.html

In July, the tribunal dismissed, 5 to 4, Iran's claim for $2.2 billion in compensation for military equipment that had been ordered by Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi but that the U.S. government had refused to allow U.S. companies to deliver after the hostage crisis.

This should be a serious threat to anybody's Presidency...the Executive branch right now has WAY too much power. There is no law or authorization to spend any tax dollars on any of this. But instead he golfs (while Louisiana floods...) and nobody wants to hold him accountable...
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    Quite honestly, the flooded part of Louisiana is pretty much useless. Unless you're a yuge fan of white trailer trash.

    Hurts Trump.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Quite honestly, the flooded part of Louisiana is pretty much useless. Unless you're a yuge fan of white trailer trash.

    Hurts Trump.

    East Baton Rouge Parish is ~50% black, but yeah, whatever.



  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Louisiana needs to be it's own country and fund it's own disaster relief program. If you want to choose to live there and risk losing everything you own every 5-10 years, then all that risk is on you, buddy. Tired of this rebuilding shit.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Oh, and fuck Obama and his illegal foreign policy shit.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter

    Quite honestly, the flooded part of Louisiana is pretty much useless. Unless you're a yuge fan of white trailer trash.

    Hurts Trump.

    East Baton Rouge Parish is ~50% black, but yeah, whatever.



    The least transparent and most criminally active administration in history.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I like how you trivialize your own point by complaining about him golfing.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069

    Quite honestly, the flooded part of Louisiana is pretty much useless. Unless you're a yuge fan of white trailer trash.

    Hurts Trump.

    East Baton Rouge Parish is ~50% black, but yeah, whatever.



    More dead black voters. Hurts Trump.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    ILLEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    Quite honestly, the flooded part of Louisiana is pretty much useless. Unless you're a yuge fan of white trailer trash.

    Hurts Trump.

    East Baton Rouge Parish is ~50% black, but yeah, whatever.



    The other 50% votes trump.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
  • Peterman
    Peterman Member Posts: 675
    How does this effect your life in any way?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
  • Peterman
    Peterman Member Posts: 675
    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    Please... 400 mil is a a drop in da bucket
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Peterman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    Please... 400 mil is a a drop in da bucket
    It's the principle of it. But you're right. I'm sure it's for a good cause!
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    You have an effect on your two moms books.

    Get a job loser.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    Please... 400 mil is a a drop in da bucket
    It's the principle of it. But you're right. I'm sure it's for a good cause!
    Iran will fund ISIS to kill our troops. To Obamao that's a good cause.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    Please... 400 mil is a a drop in da bucket
    It's the principle of it. But you're right. I'm sure it's for a good cause!
    Iran will fund ISIS to kill our troops. To Obamao that's a good cause.
    THAT'S TREASON!!!!!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Peterman said:

    How does this effect your life in any way?

    It AFFECTS the greater good of the world and also has an EFFECT on Uncle Sam's books. HTH.
    Please... 400 mil is a a drop in da bucket
    It's the principle of it. But you're right. I'm sure it's for a good cause!
    Iran will fund ISIS to kill our troops. To Obamao that's a good cause.
    Are you really worried about a $400 million army when we spend $700 billion?

    Be afraid. Very afraid.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    Reagan actually did give goods for hostages. That hasn't been proven yet in this case.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    I was trolling for squish, slicking my hair like Gordon Gekko and knocking back copious amounts of Bartles and Jaymes during Iran contra.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    I was trolling for squish, slicking my hair like Gordon Gekko and knocking back copious amounts of Bartles and Jaymes during Iran contra.

    So you were a teenager? Or a faggy adult.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    I was trolling for squish, slicking my hair like Gordon Gekko and knocking back copious amounts of Bartles and Jaymes during Iran contra.

    So you were a teenager? Or a faggy adult.
    Mostly I was doing your mom post-undergrad years.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    OZONE said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    Reagan actually did give goods for hostages. That hasn't been proven yet in this case.
    The Reagan admin never paid a ransom or gave Iran anything...they sold weapons (at a large premium), and a bunch of people got in trouble for it.

    Now waiting for your concern on this...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OZONE said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    Reagan actually did give goods for hostages. That hasn't been proven yet in this case.
    The Reagan admin never paid a ransom or gave Iran anything...they sold weapons (at a large premium), and a bunch of people got in trouble for it.

    Now waiting for your concern on this...
    The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجراي ایران-کنترا‎‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several U.S. hostages and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.

    The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages.[4][5] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4]

    While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[4][5][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger on December 7, 1985, indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderate elements" within that country.[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages'".[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages".[11]

    Several investigations ensued, including those by the U.S. Congress and the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[4][5][7] Ultimately the sale of weapons to Iran was not deemed a criminal offense but charges were brought against five individuals for their support of the Contras. Those charges, however, were later dropped because the administration refused to declassify certain documents. The indicted conspirators faced various lesser charges instead. In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    OZONE said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you just now shocked that every action of Obama is illegal?

    Oh yeah, and golf.

    Being a shitty prez isn't illegal....paying a $400 million cash ransom to a state sponsor of terrorism is.

    Speed limit IQ...
    So I'm assuming you were calling for Reagan's head during the Iran contra hearings?
    Reagan actually did give goods for hostages. That hasn't been proven yet in this case.
    The Reagan admin never paid a ransom or gave Iran anything...they sold weapons (at a large premium), and a bunch of people got in trouble for it.

    Now waiting for your concern on this...
    They gave Iran goods Iran wanted, to get hostages freed in Lebanon. Learn your history.

    As to this year's deal... http://www.vox.com/2016/8/4/12370848/ransom-iran-400-million
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Wow...HondoFS copies wiki which said he's wrong, and OZONEfs cites a VOX article that is proven false from a Washington Post article back in 2009.

    But hey...how are you both not FS...
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2016

    OZONE cites a VOX article that is proven false from a Washington Post article back in 2009.

    The Washington Post piece was an opinion, not an article (learn the difference), and it didn't prove anything.

    If that is the best response you have, it just shows how fucktarded your entire argument is.