Aetna Ditching 70% Obamacare Business

greenblood said:

pawz said:

salemcoog said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

PurpleJ said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

greenblood said:

This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine

Then go live there and fuck off.

love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

Do you think it may be related to the diets and the failure of the FDA to allow giants such as Conagra to provide cheap, instant blood sugar spiking foods to the masses... Just maybe???

Since the FDA has done such a bang up job with the regulation of our food. I'm sure the Federal Government would do even better at further control of health care.

Every Looberal says so.

Fucking this.

This is very true

I wish they would pass legislation that prevents people using food stamps to buy fast food and other junk food. Food stamps should only be used for meat, cheese, milk, water, veggies, bread, etc. The fact that someone can use taxpayer dollars to buy bags of Doritios, 24 pack Mountain Dew, fast food combo meals, etc. is disgusting to me. This country gives these people money to make themselves even more sick, so we have to spend even more money paying for their more expensive medical bills later in life.

I understand that people should have freedom to spend their money. But they didn't earn that money, we gave them that money. And thus, we should be able to control how that money is spent. When they get a job and earn actual wages then they can buy all the crap they want.

Social security obviously doesn't count, because most of that money was earned from years of employment.

This obviously won't pass because every fast food and junk food lobbyist in the country would prevent this from happening.

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

pawz said:

salemcoog said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

PurpleJ said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

greenblood said:

This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine

Then go live there and fuck off.

love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

Do you think it may be related to the diets and the failure of the FDA to allow giants such as Conagra to provide cheap, instant blood sugar spiking foods to the masses... Just maybe???

Since the FDA has done such a bang up job with the regulation of our food. I'm sure the Federal Government would do even better at further control of health care.

Every Looberal says so.

Fucking this.

This is very true

I wish they would pass legislation that prevents people using food stamps to buy fast food and other junk food. Food stamps should only be used for meat, cheese, milk, water, veggies, bread, etc. The fact that someone can use taxpayer dollars to buy bags of Doritios, 24 pack Mountain Dew, fast food combo meals, etc. is disgusting to me. This country gives these people money to make themselves even more sick, so we have to spend even more money paying for their more expensive medical bills later in life.

I understand that people should have freedom to spend their money. But they didn't earn that money, we gave them that money. And thus, we should be able to control how that money is spent. When they get a job and earn actual wages then they can buy all the crap they want.

Social security obviously doesn't count, because most of that money was earned from years of employment.

This obviously won't pass because every fast food and junk food lobbyist in the country would prevent this from happening.

You can't buy fast food with food stamps dumb fuck.

SNAP benefits can only be used for food and for plants and seeds to grow food for your household to eat. SNAP benefits cannot be used to buy:

Any nonfood item, such as pet foods; soaps, paper products, and household supplies; grooming items, toothpaste, and cosmetics

Alcoholic beverages and tobacco

Vitamins and medicines

Any food that will be eaten in the store

Hot foods

You can buy Papa Murphy's tho, which is a very high percentage of their sales.

pawz said:

dnc said:

greenblood said:

Sledog said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

dnc said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Southerndawg said:

HoustonHusky said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Sledog said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Why would we want to provide coverage for everyone and reduce our burden by 50%? Single payer is scary! Why add thousands of dollars per capita into other sectors of the economy when we can pay for 50 layers of bureaucratic inefficiencies at insurance companies?

Yeah the US government is far more efficient. Holy shit!

It literally is, Medicare is way more efficient than private insurance.

Here are a couple highlights:

Medicaire's spending grows at a slower rate than private insurance premiums (4.3% per year vs 6.5%).

It's administrative costs are tiny compare to private insurance also (2% of expenditures vs 17% of revenue).

Are you under the impression that paying medical billing coders, insurance adjusters etc is a good use of health care spending?

17%? OZONEfs said it was 70%...

Private insurance more efficient than medicare by far

And yet every single country with universal health care spends less than the US per capita, most more than 50%.

You think this is because their system is more efficient, or because their culture isn't full of mountain dew drinking cheeto eaters playing Warcraft in their mom's dads' basement? No offense to present company, of course.

UK, Australia, and many others are within a couple percentage points of our obesity rates. Fat fucks are definitely a drain on the system private or not, though. Then again, giving poor fat fucks the opportunity to visit a doctor once in a while might be enough for them to lose some weight. Same goes for all preventive care, it's much cheaper to fix things health issues early, but uninsured don't go in until they absolutely have to.

Heard all the supposed ways it will be cheaper. Why the hell didn't Happen? Oh yeah socialist shit NEVER HAS WORKED, never will.

It depends on who you are. If you are in the ruling class, socialism works very well for you.

The more I see your poast the more it pisses me off. When in thee fuck did we decide we're giving up on being the shining city on the hill? (Miss you Ron)

I accuse @TierbsHsotBoobs of being dogmatic. Well so am I. And my dogma is America. Not micro aggression American but of country of men and ideas. A country that buttfucked the world empire with Hawkins rifles.

Not a country of apologists and well wishes and non-intervention. We were destined to be leaders. Embrace it

If we wanted to, we could be the Imperials. We've got lawyers guns and money. But we're too good for that. Because. This is the greatest country ever. It sucks. But it sucks a lot less than the rest of the bastards.

Fuck off, NMBE, DIAF, Thank me for my service.

*too

TY4YS