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"Both speeches vacuous & facile."
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Can you tell me what those words mean?Southerndawg said:"Both speeches vacuous & facile."
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Wood hit. Kind of annoying but wood hit.GrundleStiltzkin said:TheGlove said:
flagged for facile. too close to flaccid for my liking.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Melody didn't plagarism. No way she wrote that speech. More trump campaign dick stepping.TierbsHsotBoobs said:For @Tequilla Fucking Stupid
Me'shell probably did write her own.
Both speeches vacuous & facile.
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Open a thread about Melania trump and not one picture? Fuck all of you I might go back and WTF every post.
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crispedTierbsHsotBoobs said:To be fair, stealing
fromblack people was normal in the days when, in Trump's opinion, America was great.
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Now we find Michelle plagiarized a 2001 book, LOL
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-19/did-michelle-obama-also-borrow-her-2008-speech -
1. This thread sucks
2. We all know Melania neither wrote her speech nor listened to Michelle's
3. The speech writer plagiarism'ed the hell out of Craig Robinson's sister. Generic my ass.
4. The plagiarism itself is insignificant, but it illustrates Trump's bungling cluelessness and inability to surround himself with people who have a clue.
5. Fuck Trump
6. Fuck Hillary
7. We're fucked
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1) the article was written by the AP ... the article is the article ... you can't tell me it isn't funny to see those comments from the Oregon governor2001400ex said:@Tequilla holy fuck. That radio person you were listening to bashing the Oregon newspaper. Do you really think that person is fair and balanced? Do you think they don't omit facts to make the conservative argument? Do you actually think fox news is fair and balanced?
2) I've said elsewhere that Fox News does a general disservice with their bias
3) I want data and facts with my news that allows me to form my opinions off of not only the data but my general observations (does the data confirm or deny)
4) I do find it amusing as well to hear people say that they think Obama is a good president and when pressed to name 1 thing he has done that they have liked defaults into he looks good in a suit and therefore looks Presidential -
CNN leans left? Bullshit. They always try to be neutral over objective which isn't journalism. Even then they probably do criticize republicans more than democrats because the Republican party, or at least a large part of it is just that retarded and crazyTequilla said:
They definitely lean left ... there's no question on that.Southerndawg said:
Disagree on CNN. They're very partisan and doing exactly what I would expect them to. Your last sentence is spot on.
Trump's campaign talks about fragments in Melania's speech yet everybody now is saying that they aren't saying anything ... people see what they want to see. The reality is that we don't know the story yet ... everything else is speculation at this point. -
Even msnbc is borderline centrist, maybe center left. As they are basically the voice of the hillary wing of the dems.
They all lean towards the money 1st though -
It's not about need.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You were already Nebraska classy in your concession. You don't need to suck my dick too.Southerndawg said:
Explains the outrage by Sven and his other handlesPurpleThrobber said:Trump is playing the media like The Truman Show.
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Gloves are off.Tequilla said:
I've read them fucktard ... far better than listening to them.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Watch the side by side speeches Doog.Tequilla said:
When you're talking about very generic things about how you grew up, your values, etc. there's a lot of these comments that would be very similar from person to person.Peterman said:
"Very generic" my asshole, one part was 22 out of 26 words exactly the same in exactly the same place. Obvious plagiarismTequilla said:
What's strange is that the parts that are being cited for plagiarizing are words that I would say you could hear in similar discussions on this type of topic.TierbsHsotBoobs said:My apologies. It appears Melania is excellent at plagiarism shit:
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
Another thing that I've learned over the years is that depending on where you are in the world, the topic of plagiarism, stretching the truth, etc. is completely different than our standards.
I also think a lot of times people view plagiarism as full blown source stealing whereas this would clearly be at best a couple of lines that are very, very generic.
I'm sure that there are things any of us have said in the past that could be cited for plagiarism. I know personally, I've said things that people have claimed I've taken straight from somebody else and I've never even seen what those people have said.
1st paragraph that is being cited is similar but definitely not word for word ... the values contained within are very common amongst many people and definitely not unique.
2nd paragraph that is cited is definitely the more direct example of plagiarism. Again, I'd argue that what was said in there definitely wasn't anything overly unique or special which does start clouding the plagiarism argument a bit.
If I was a betting man, I'd bet that these paragraphs were dropped in a prior edition as an example subject to revision/update. The 1st paragraph was slightly updated ... the 2nd paragraph probably just proofread and somehow the need to revise somehow slipped through the cracks.
Does this deserve an explanation from Melania and the Trump campaign ... absolutely.
Does this deserve the rhetoric that is coming from the left right now ... absolutely not. -
CNN is neutral? Lol I have heard it all.dhdawg said:
CNN leans left? Bullshit. They always try to be neutral over objective which isn't journalism. Even then they probably do criticize republicans more than democrats because the Republican party, or at least a large part of it is just that retarded and crazyTequilla said:
They definitely lean left ... there's no question on that.Southerndawg said:
Disagree on CNN. They're very partisan and doing exactly what I would expect them to. Your last sentence is spot on.
Trump's campaign talks about fragments in Melania's speech yet everybody now is saying that they aren't saying anything ... people see what they want to see. The reality is that we don't know the story yet ... everything else is speculation at this point. -
Jesus you're fucking stupid. This is way more than a "distraction." This dumb (but very hot) bitch is a direct reflection of the mutual disasters that are Trump's campaign and the GOP. Any competent campaign team would have been all over that shit and never - NEVER - have let Trump's wife embarrass herself and her husband to this extent ... at the fucking convention no less.Southerndawg said:NOC Tequila. CNN and MSNBC have one goal. Make damn sure the narrative stays in Hillary Clinton's camp. Melania's speech is a distraction, plain and simple. It's the red meat they were looking for to move the conversation from domestic and foreign security to a tabloid issue.
This clown can't even open a convention and you want him as President? -
dhdawg said:
Even msnbc is borderline centrist, maybe center left. As they are basically the voice of the hillary wing of the dems.
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1. Own itTierbsHsotBoobs said:The RNC damage control fail though
2. Fire the speechwriter
3. Problem goes away
The GOP continues to make the simple look so difficult. When Chris Carter has more common sense than the entire campaign of one of our? two major parties, RIP Merica. -
Why this sudden, uncharacteristic concern about integrity?2001400ex said:@Tequilla holy fuck. That radio person you were listening to bashing the Oregon newspaper. Do you really think that person is fair and balanced? Do you think they don't omit facts to make the conservative argument? Do you actually think fox news is fair and balanced?
The best part is, when fox news and AM radio bash on the "liberal media", but don't consider themselves part of the media. And simpletons like you eat it up.
And you are right, fox news wouldn't spend 2 hours on this if it were Michelle. They'd mention it over and over until the election. -
She's 45. Who cares?
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Of course, and they fit the context. In fact they apply to the majority of the posts in this thread.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Can you tell me what those words mean?Southerndawg said:"Both speeches vacuous & facile."
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I definitely wouldn't have doubled down like they are currently doing ... that's just FS in my mind.
Just say that these are Melania's thoughts and themes that she talked about in preparing the speech. In the process of putting the speech together, we reviewed historical speeches provided by candidate's wives including Michelle Obama's speech in 2008. During the process of drafting the speech, we inserted a portion of Michelle's speech as a placeholder for Melania's thoughts on the subject. Unfortunately, due to the similarity between Melania's thoughts and opinions and Michelle's speech, we regretfully did not catch the fact that we used some of Michelle's remarks as an example for Melania. We regretfully apologize for this oversight and ask that everybody focuses on the shared values that both Melania and Michelle have that our country so desperately need to embrace right now. -
Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
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So now the Trump campaign should embrace the Obama's?Tequilla said:I definitely wouldn't have doubled down like they are currently doing ... that's just FS in my mind.
the shared values that both Melania and Michelle have
They've painted themselves into a corner with the agenda that America sucks and it's all because of the HNIC. -
Now, more than ever...LEAVE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!1!!!!!!!WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
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Ok...please continue you're fucking bitch slap fest. I miss the days when all that would be posted are pics for everyone to critique. Bunch of fags you've become.TheGlove said:
Now, more than ever...LEAVE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!1!!!!!!!WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
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That's probably the more problematic position here compared to the plagiarism ...TheGlove said:
So now the Trump campaign should embrace the Obama's?Tequilla said:I definitely wouldn't have doubled down like they are currently doing ... that's just FS in my mind.
the shared values that both Melania and Michelle have
They've painted themselves into a corner with the agenda that America sucks and it's all because of the HNIC.
Personally, there's nothing unique about Michelle's words that entered Melania's speech.
But this is what happens if/when you get personal about a candidate ... it blinds whether your disagreement with them is political or personal. I have no reason to hate Obama from a personal standpoint ... I don't believe that he's a radical Islamic like the furthest of the extremists think that he is. On policy though, I do disagree with a lot of the things he does. I do think that he's been far too soft in painting America as a power around the world. And probably at the most extreme level, I feel like he consistently negotiates from a position of weakness than strength as if he has some kind of guilt about America that I don't get.
But Trump's gotten personal before which probably leaves them no other choice but to say that they didn't lift the passage of Michelle's speech ...
The actual issue isn't really that big in my mind ... but the ramifications and how much the left will beat this dead horse will be pretty big in how they try to link this back to Trump and his ability to be President.
Not saying that this error should have happened ... but we all know or have seen instances where there was an oversight in the past that puts egg on the face. It happens. Move on. -
It's July.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
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Thanks Kim..TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's July.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
Nothing else to fight over.
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Take it to the OL bored.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Thanks Kim..TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's July.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:Fighting over the speech of a candidates wife. Christ, this has to be a new low for this place. Everyone who is involved here needs Owen fucking 12 and to diaff.
Nothing else to fight over.
