Q for Islam apologists
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I saw Primal Faiths open for Built to Spill back in 97. They're early 7" releases were amazing but sold out.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
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sarktastic said:
Can we just start with the "overwhelming Majority peaceful Muslims"... taking the lead in exposing the Radical Islamists fucksticks and publically denouncing them with the same fervor... they denounce the United States?
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Uganda?GreenRiverGatorz said:To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.
The more you know™.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/ -
Youre using Uganda as your source?RaceBannon said:
Uganda?GreenRiverGatorz said:To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.
The more you know™.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/
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Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
I'm proud of you. But I'd still kick the shit out of you if we were in the Elbe Bar and Grill.2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
Weird2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
First time for everything I guess2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
Dem peacefully coexisting Hindus & Moslems in India doh...RaceBannon said:
First time for everything I guess2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
