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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    NEsnake12 said:

    Comparing Helfrich to Petersen is fucking dumb. Helf was Oregons OC and didn't have to completely overhaul the system coming in like Petersen did, and also didn't have to deal with massive attrition that left holes in the depth chart.

    Helf did have 2 really good years to start, but once all of Chip's main talent started leaving he got exposed. Oregons defense has gotten worse and worse, recruiting hasn't been bringing in the same level of talent as in the Chip era, and QB development has been a dubstep fire.

    Pete had enough talent to do better than he did, and bad coahing cost 3-5 more losses than there should've been. BUT it's fucking dumb to assume he inherited a situation as good as Helfrich. There should be some gap between the expectations.

    Overall though, both Pete and Helf deserve the axe after this year if they do any worse than 9-3. Pete needs to prove his system can win now that it's all in place, and Helf needs to make last year's train wreck seem like a fluke.

    Good thing is that wont happen @ UW aunty. He'll get 5 years even if he goes 6-7, and deservedly so.
    Chincredibled for Doog honesty.

    UW doesn't give a fuck about winning. Puppy is dialed in on the truth here.
    luckily Peterman does give a fuck about winning, and will LEAVE! if he doesn't get an environment that enables it
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Let me explain base. Ty and sark got 5 (sark would have got 6 or more) Pete is a better coach, and by a fucking mile. See the logic there ya dipshit base?

    Ty and Sark both should have been fired after year 3.

    Doogs hate history, facts, and winning.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    NEsnake12 said:

    Comparing Helfrich to Petersen is fucking dumb. Helf was Oregons OC and didn't have to completely overhaul the system coming in like Petersen did, and also didn't have to deal with massive attrition that left holes in the depth chart.

    Helf did have 2 really good years to start, but once all of Chip's main talent started leaving he got exposed. Oregons defense has gotten worse and worse, recruiting hasn't been bringing in the same level of talent as in the Chip era, and QB development has been a dubstep fire.

    Pete had enough talent to do better than he did, and bad coahing cost 3-5 more losses than there should've been. BUT it's fucking dumb to assume he inherited a situation as good as Helfrich. There should be some gap between the expectations.

    Overall though, both Pete and Helf deserve the axe after this year if they do any worse than 9-3. Pete needs to prove his system can win now that it's all in place, and Helf needs to make last year's train wreck seem like a fluke.

    Good thing is that wont happen @ UW aunty. He'll get 5 years even if he goes 6-7, and deservedly so.
    Chincredibled for Doog honesty.

    UW doesn't give a fuck about winning. Puppy is dialed in on the truth here.
    luckily Peterman does give a fuck about winning, and will LEAVE! if he doesn't get an environment that enables it
    He came to UW which proves he cares more about the paycheck than he cares about winning.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    5 years bitches...get used to it.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    5 years bitches...get used to it.

    Hi. Take that argument to http://www.dawgman.com where it came from and where it belongs.

    You're plagiarism Kim's shit.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    NEsnake12 said:

    Comparing Helfrich to Petersen is fucking dumb. Helf was Oregons OC and didn't have to completely overhaul the system coming in like Petersen did, and also didn't have to deal with massive attrition that left holes in the depth chart.

    Helf did have 2 really good years to start, but once all of Chip's main talent started leaving he got exposed. Oregons defense has gotten worse and worse, recruiting hasn't been bringing in the same level of talent as in the Chip era, and QB development has been a dubstep fire.

    Pete had enough talent to do better than he did, and bad coahing cost 3-5 more losses than there should've been. BUT it's fucking dumb to assume he inherited a situation as good as Helfrich. There should be some gap between the expectations.

    Overall though, both Pete and Helf deserve the axe after this year if they do any worse than 9-3. Pete needs to prove his system can win now that it's all in place, and Helf needs to make last year's train wreck seem like a fluke.

    Good thing is that wont happen @ UW aunty. He'll get 5 years even if he goes 6-7, and deservedly so.
    Chincredibled for Doog honesty.

    UW doesn't give a fuck about winning. Puppy is dialed in on the truth here.
    luckily Peterman does give a fuck about winning, and will LEAVE! if he doesn't get an environment that enables it
    He came to UW which proves he cares more about the paycheck than he cares about winning.
    no way to prove it, but disagree.

    we'll find out at the end of this season when its not 11 wins, if Pete starts talking about character development and how white guys from Yuba City only get the most downtrodden programs.

    EWIWBI
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    5 years bitches...get used to it.

    Hi. Take that argument to http://www.dawgman.com where it came from and where it belongs.

    You're plagiarism Kim's shit.
    Not an argument, its a FACT. And puppy loves it
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    This thread delivers until it doesn't.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    5 years bitches...get used to it.

    Hi. Take that argument to http://www.dawgman.com where it came from and where it belongs.

    You're plagiarism Kim's shit.
    Not an argument, its a FACT. And puppy loves it
    Of course you love it.

    You hate winners.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Let me explain base. Ty and sark got 5 (sark would have got 6 or more) Pete is a better coach, and by a fucking mile. See the logic there ya dipshit base?

    Dipshit says three wrongs don't make a right. If UW goes 6-7, Pete is no better - I might argue he's worse- than Sark and probably closer to Ty.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Just wait till Jen gets her own guy* in here
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Listen buttuckbaabs. Bruce Snyder, one of best Pac coaches of all time started15 freshman his 2nd year, including true freshman Jake plummer. The similarities between ASU and UW are astonishingly similar. 6-8 all pac10 LT juan rouque , member him? Of course not, but mirror image to trey adams.

    His 5th year, he came within a play of the national title. It takes 4-5years to build a program, Bruce Snyder did it twice. Get that through your fucking skull. Cant build a program from scratch in 3 years. It DOESNT happen.

    You show daily, what an ill informed loon you are baabs. Its embarrassing to read.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Baseman said:

    Let me explain base. Ty and sark got 5 (sark would have got 6 or more) Pete is a better coach, and by a fucking mile. See the logic there ya dipshit base?

    Dipshit says three wrongs don't make a right. If UW goes 6-7, Pete is no better - I might argue he's worse- than Sark and probably closer to Ty.
    Well base nobody here cares what you have to argue, but go ahead if you must.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    edited May 2016
    LOL. Bruce Snyder is a Doog Legend. I stopped reading there. Dude's career highlight is a Citrus Festival Bowl win.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    dnc said:

    In this thread: faggots who listen to Canadian boys instead of actual rap.

    I didn't even get the Drake reference until it was spelled out here. I just thought Pete trying to look g'd up was funny as hell.

    Fuck Canada. Fuck Drake. Fuck what's become of rap. Fuck you. Fuck me. Fuck everybody.
    You forgot to fuck skinny jeans and skateboards
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    Bruce Snyder had two really good years and one or two decent years at Kal and ASU, but they regressed (ASSU) by 1998. He's nowhere near elite. Even a "Doog" like me can see that.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Bruce Snyder had two really good years and one or two decent years at Kal and ASU, but they regressed (ASSU) by 1998. He's nowhere near elite. Even a "Doog" like me can see that.

    He turned 2 different turds into title contending teams Bill. Good fucking hell how isnt that elite. Sorry bill but u fucked in head on this.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Few coaches can turn 1. Remember, Snyder almost beat 91 team (closest game all year)
    Only team to beat lambo and dillon in regular season
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter

    Bruce Snyder had two really good years and one or two decent years at Kal and ASU, but they regressed (ASSU) by 1998. He's nowhere near elite. Even a "Doog" like me can see that.

    He turned 2 different turds into title contending teams Bill. Good fucking hell how isnt that elite. Sorry bill but u fucked in head on this.
    He had two really good years at ASU ('96 and '97). He couldn't sustain it and they reverted back to mediocrity. They were mediocre from '92 to '95 also. So in his nine years, he had two good to great years. They aren't really a power, but they have more resources and a better recruiting base than whOregon, WSU, Oregon State, Stanford, Kal (resources, recruiting base wise maybe they're a little behind), and Utah. They can recruit Valley of the Heat Stroke, SoCal, NorCal, NW (people want to get the hell out of the shitty weather), and Texas. Arizona schools can recruit Texas easier than Northwest schools (besides WhOregon and their bribes). West Texas including Midland, Lubbock, and Amarillo are closer than the Bay Area. SA, DFW, and Austin are closer to Phx and Tucson than Seattle.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Puppy wants Pete to fail just so he can be right?

    What the hell are you talking about? Im the ONLY one here next to Steel2 who knows Petersen will be extremely successful here. Thats the way pup will be right Derek.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    edited May 2016

    Bruce Snyder had two really good years and one or two decent years at Kal and ASU, but they regressed (ASSU) by 1998. He's nowhere near elite. Even a "Doog" like me can see that.

    He turned 2 different turds into title contending teams Bill. Good fucking hell how isnt that elite. Sorry bill but u fucked in head on this.
    He had two really good years at ASU ('96 and '97). He couldn't sustain it and they reverted back to mediocrity. They were mediocre from '92 to '95 also. So in his nine years, he had two good to great years. They aren't really a power, but they have more resources and a better recruiting base than whOregon, WSU, Oregon State, Stanford, Kal (resources, recruiting base wise maybe they're a little behind), and Utah. They can recruit Valley of the Heat Stroke, SoCal, NorCal, NW (people want to get the hell out of the shitty weather), and Texas. Arizona schools can recruit Texas easier than Northwest schools (besides WhOregon and their bribes). West Texas including Midland, Lubbock, and Amarillo are closer than the Bay Area. SA, DFW, and Austin are closer to Phx and Tucson than Seattle.
    He was in Urban Meyers league. Imagine if he took over perennial powers like Urban. BTW, still the only coach in pac history to turn 2 different doormats into title contenders. Erickson didnt just to bury that myth now.

    Edit: just read your entire post Bill. The hell are you rambling about?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Puppy wants Pete to fail just so he can be right?

    What the hell are you talking about? Im the ONLY one here next to Steel2 who knows Petersen will be extremely successful here. Thats the way pup will be right Derek.
    If you're comparing him to failures, you obviously expect him to fail.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Puppy wants Pete to fail just so he can be right?

    What the hell are you talking about? Im the ONLY one here next to Steel2 who knows Petersen will be extremely successful here. Thats the way pup will be right Derek.
    If you're comparing him to failures, you obviously expect him to fail.
    Baabs I wont even answer to you anymore. You are so far from even clueless. I cant even knock the most obvious and factual reason into that pea brain of yours. Last one.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Puppy wants Pete to fail just so he can be right?

    What the hell are you talking about? Im the ONLY one here next to Steel2 who knows Petersen will be extremely successful here. Thats the way pup will be right Derek.
    If you're comparing him to failures, you obviously expect him to fail.
    Baabs I wont even answer to you anymore. You are so far from even clueless. I cant even knock the most obvious and factual reason into that pea brain of yours. Last one.
    You love football coaches from 20 years ago who almost accomplished something.

    It's a shame you are a football dinosaur.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Crickets...did someone address pumpy
    ?
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Few coaches can turn 1. Remember, Snyder almost beat 91 team (closest game all year)
    Only team to beat lamb and dillon in regular season

    A historical look back on popular Football Metrics by years
    1900-1989: Winning
    1990-1999: QB Efficiency
    2000-2015: WPA (Win Probability Added)
    2016: AMW (Almost Wins)
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    7-6 (4-5)

    Roll Tide!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    When you're a top 3 coach in america, you can get away with anything, including 3 wins in year 3. Trumpy knows all about that type of latitude.

    Just stop. Petersen hasn't proven he's even a top 3 coach in the conference. I'm pretty sure he's not.
    Hmmmmm. Clearly not top 3 in the nation, and he certainly hasn't proven he's top 3 in the conference, but who are you taking over him? Shaw for sure, after that Pete's got 2 BCS bowel wins, which get an asterisk since they didn't come in the Pac, but even with an asterisk I think they outshine anybody else in the Pac's resume. Maybe you could argue for Dick Rod, or Slicer could argue for Leach, but I'm taking Pete over either of them. Who else would you even put up there, Slingblade?

    He needs to get better. Just being top 3 in the Pac12FuckingDreckfest isnt good enough, don't twist, but I do think Pete's in the top 3.