Which outcome is likelier to hasten Seven's exit? Upset win or 10th consecutive loss?
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Neither.
USC isn't going to hire Sark and you can't expect to beat the #2 team in the country only year 5 after 0-12. -
He isn't going anywhere again.
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wrote this in another poast - SC isn't hiring Sarkesian. He was there; they know who he is. He's been auditioning as a HC in their conference for 5 years. They get it. USC's self-image is such that they believe they can get who they want. Why would they start with Mr. Dreamy? They just did that with Kiffin.
No, you'd better be hoping not only for 10 in a row, but an ass plungering of epic proportions.
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If he keeps it within 2 touchdowns, PoolBoy offers him an extension an we lose Wilcox to a HC gig elsewhere.
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I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar. -
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach. -
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett disagree.creepycoug said:They get it. USC's self-image is such that they believe they can get who they want. Why would they start with Mr. Dreamy? They just did that with Kiffin.
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The only way doog nation gets upset is if uw loses by 20 or more.
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HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
Buffalo already hired the first Chan Gailey. They may as well hire this one too. -
Sark is absolutely an NFL candidate. So is Wilcox as a coordinator (that's what scares me., as Sarks coordinator in New York (giants) or Oakland. We're going to have to match Texas for Wilcox's contract if he doesn't follow Sark.. We wont.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ. -
puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Sark is absolutely an NFL candidate. So is Wilcox as a coordinator (that's what scares me., as Sarks coordinator in New York (giants) or Oakland. We're going to have to match Texas for Wilcox's contract if he doesn't follow Sark.. We wont.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ.
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Dude..NegaDawg is right. You are on some strong, strong meds. LOLpuppylove_sugarsteel said:
Sark is absolutely an NFL candidate. So is Wilcox as a coordinator (that's what scares me., as Sarks coordinator in New York (giants) or Oakland. We're going to have to match Texas for Wilcox's contract if he doesn't follow Sark.. We wont.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ. -
Yes, Marrone got an NFL gig. So did Schiano. But the pool of crappy candidates is very large, and the pool of stupid NFL franchises is very small. I suppose it's possible Sark lucks into an NFL gig, but it's no more likely than him lucking into a legitimate UW career.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
I'm not hoalding my breath for either.
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Buffalo is a shitty franchise and learned NOTHING from the Gailey hire as they hired another bum college coach.TierbsHsotBoobs said:HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach.
Buffalo already hired the first Chan Gailey. They may as well hire this one too.
They are our best hope. -
Sark got a standing O for losing to LSU and five years later he gets a statue for losing to Stanford
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That standing O confused Sark at first then shortly after he realized expectations are so low here he can be average forever and keep his job.RaceBannon said:Sark got a standing O for losing to LSU and five years later he gets a statue for losing to Stanford
At a real school he would have been fired after 2011 and definitely after 2012. -
It's not every day you see a tldr post in which every.single.sentence is just dead wrong.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Sark is absolutely an NFL candidate. So is Wilcox as a coordinator (that's what scares me., as Sarks coordinator in New York (giants) or Oakland. We're going to have to match Texas for Wilcox's contract if he doesn't follow Sark.. We wont.
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ.
Well done, sir. -
I like saying you can't fire a coach until a year that happened seven years ago then following sentence saying anyone who disagrees with your impossible statement has a kindergarten IQ. I do that.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach. -
TTJ wins
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I think he must view time like an odometer, he means 2006 the *next* time it rolls around. That is how long doogs want to give Sark.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I like saying you can't fire a coach until a year that happened seven years ago then following sentence saying anyone who disagrees with your impossible statement has a kindergarten IQ. I do that.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
We'll be a top 5-10 team preseason next year,with Sark. You can't fire him until after 2006 now. Any dumbfuck that thinks otherwise has a kindergarten football IQ.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Disagree.dnc said:I've been saying the same as creep since we hired Sark, he will never get a head gig in the NFL or at SC. And he's not leaving UW for anything less.
Our only hope is loadsock's avatar.
If an NFL team needs to rebuild, the pool of great candidates might be chitty and don't discount Sark's ability to self-promote. Doug Marrone got an NFL job after being a shit college coach. -
we're going to win more than seven games this year, something either 9-4 or 10-3. It's not gonna be a couple of years if ever before he gets canned. And there is no way USC goes back to the Carroll coaching tree again
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yeah, ok. let me amplify all my comments. so when I use phrases here like "no way that happens" or "they're not going to do this" or "they won't do that", I don't mean that literally. I'm in the habit of sprinkling in the word "literally" when I'm being literal. the rest is husky msg. board hyperbole.TTJ said:
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett disagree.creepycoug said:They get it. USC's self-image is such that they believe they can get who they want. Why would they start with Mr. Dreamy? They just did that with Kiffin.
sure, Sark could get lucky, catch a flier and get an NFL gig (responding to other posts in the thread) or charm his way back to USC. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual odds, which I can't calculate, are in the 10% range for either. as another poster pointed out, there are only so many people doing this job for a living, so it's not like looking for a lawyer or an accountant. the pool of candidates is limited.
that said, and while I can't prove it by any means, something tells me the Kiffin experience will be fresh on their minds, which, again I can't prove it, should cause someone to think hard about Sarkesian and reflect on his role at SC while Carroll was there. None of Carroll's assistant coaches have done chit as a HC. Chow flamed. Orgeron was an unmitigated disaster. Mr. Handsome just got canned.
I'm thinking someone there in the war room is going to say, "guys. the bloom is off the rose on the Pete era. the cat's outta the bag. it was Pete and a bunch of helpers. we don't want another helper, even if he is kinda cute."
Tollner and Hackett are ancient history. every program, every single one, has hired shitty coaches. I don't see that as relevant to this prediction. -
I somehow stumbled on this thread through the search engine. This is full of win. From PLSS dooging it up for Sark at 4-1. To DNC and Creep thankfully be wrong saying no way USC is that FS to hire Sark.
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The bolded part is absolutely true and totally logical. Why it is still so maddening that USC hired Sark.creepycoug said:
yeah, ok. let me amplify all my comments. so when I use phrases here like "no way that happens" or "they're not going to do this" or "they won't do that", I don't mean that literally. I'm in the habit of sprinkling in the word "literally" when I'm being literal. the rest is husky msg. board hyperbole.TTJ said:
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett disagree.creepycoug said:They get it. USC's self-image is such that they believe they can get who they want. Why would they start with Mr. Dreamy? They just did that with Kiffin.
sure, Sark could get lucky, catch a flier and get an NFL gig (responding to other posts in the thread) or charm his way back to USC. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual odds, which I can't calculate, are in the 10% range for either. as another poster pointed out, there are only so many people doing this job for a living, so it's not like looking for a lawyer or an accountant. the pool of candidates is limited.
that said, and while I can't prove it by any means, something tells me the Kiffin experience will be fresh on their minds, which, again I can't prove it, should cause someone to think hard about Sarkesian and reflect on his role at SC while Carroll was there. None of Carroll's assistant coaches have done chit as a HC. Chow flamed. Orgeron was an unmitigated disaster. Mr. Handsome just got canned.
I'm thinking someone there in the war room is going to say, "guys. the bloom is off the rose on the Pete era. the cat's outta the bag. it was Pete and a bunch of helpers. we don't want another helper, even if he is kinda cute."
Tollner and Hackett are ancient history. every program, every single one, has hired shitty coaches. I don't see that as relevant to this prediction.
I remember the Sark to USC rumors back then and I completely dismissed it thinking they just fired Sark's clone in Kiffin no way they make that same mistake again.
Once again forever thankful to HH Legend Pat HadenFS. -
Epic bump.
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Great thread. Glory be to Pat Haden. It's amazing they would hire Kiffin's buddy after how bad Kiffin's run was, and how mediocre Sark was at UW. To be honest, I want Sark to flame out after 3 years. I don't want him being just good enough to stay for 8-10 years. USC needs to be good. They are in the South anyways. I think it helps the conference. Sark will be an embarrassment, just like Kiffin.
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I think the rule is that the over/under is always 5. I'll take the under.RoadDawg55 said:Great thread. Glory be to Pat Haden. It's amazing they would hire Kiffin's buddy after how bad Kiffin's run was, and how mediocre Sark was at UW. To be honest, I want Sark to flame out after 3 years. I don't want him being just good enough to stay for 8-10 years. USC needs to be good. They are in the South anyways. I think it helps the conference. Sark will be an embarrassment, just like Kiffin.
This is a great thread to bump. Smart money, hell even fairly dumb money, was on SC NOT being that stupid. It's fun to read the solid (but obvious) arguments about why they wouldn't be. Had me thinking it again..."no way..." then I got to the end and remembered that they did. It's a great feeling to relive. -
FREE PUB!!!He_Needs_More_Time said:I somehow stumbled on this thread through the search engine. This is full of win. From PLSS dooging it up for Sark at 4-1. To DNC and Creep thankfully be wrong saying no way USC is that FS to hire Sark.
Ha, I said Sark would never get hired away from UW in a ton of threads over the years. Never has crow tasted so damn good. -
Also love how PLSS said we'd be a top 10 team in 2014 with Sark yet with Petersen you can't expect more than 7 wins.
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A buddy of mine keeps reminding me that I "called it" because in October and November I kept telling him "If there was only a way that USC could come take Sark off our hands, that would be perfect. It's our only hope to avoid him being here for 30 years." Every time we talk he keeps saying "you called it!" And I keep reminding him that it was cancelled out by me telling everyone Mora was coming.
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