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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:
    You do realize the minimum wage doesn't get to $15 an hour until 2022, right? So it's hilarious that your news source blames the $15 an hour wage, not mismanagement at the college. Why don't you bash the fact the management fucked up, but they keep their jobs while they let the janitors go?
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    I only read the headline
  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463
    Actual Mecca > Socialist Mecca
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    The much bigger concern is small businesses that can't afford a 50% increase in their cost of labor.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Ozone's 75% correct. The living wage as stipulated is not actually a real drain on businesses. However I disagree that the "living wage" is unworkable. This is a wealthy country; there's no reason that in late capitalism there shouldn't be guaranteed income for the working class, accompanied by a free market for the middle class strivers like Sven. Zing.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Businesses have absorbed every minimum wage hike without issues. If people were saying $15 an hour tomorrow, some would struggle. But these are increases over a few years. About every 10 years we go through a minimum wage increase. The federal side should increase minimum wage to about $10 an hour.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    What does this have to do with Brazil?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Corporate sell out Hillary voter?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    $30/ hour minimum wage would allow everyone to buy new fuel efficient cars, pay for healthcare, a home, college for more kids... $45 would be better still
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    $30/ hour minimum wage would allow everyone to buy new fuel efficient cars, pay for healthcare, a home, college for more kids... $45 would be better still

    Make it $1000/hour
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Yeah, it's not 2005 anymore. Just go to college and you'll be a success is a fairy tale.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited April 2016

    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Yeah, it's not 2005 anymore. Just go to college and you'll be a success is a fairy tale.
    No question about that. My wife got her bachelors in psychology. Most worthless piece of paper (not to mention the 50K in student loans) there is.

    The biggest problem is we've told this generation to follow their heart and study something that makes them happy. Most of the shit that makes them happy is worthless in the real world.

    Can't wait until we get to pay for everybody to have a worthless major!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Yeah, it's not 2005 anymore. Just go to college and you'll be a success is a fairy tale.
    Get a REAL degree, you'll be fine.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Yeah, it's not 2005 anymore. Just go to college and you'll be a success is a fairy tale.
    Get a REAL degree, you'll be fine.
    STEM or get in a trade.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    MisterEm said:

    OZONE said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:

    Here's the actual news story:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

    The $15 per hour is a factor, but there's a lot more going wrong there than that.


    #StadiumDefault

    Fuck that was hard to read with all of the embedded javascript video, dozens of links, and random visual noise all over the fucking place. The internet is ruining journalism.

    That said, I didn't see anything about $15/hour in that article.

    Any of you guys that are worried that paying people $15/hour is going to cause unemployment in your job sector... should look into upgrading your job sector.
    It's not our jobs that we're worried about you egotistical douchebag. It's the elimination of the entry level jobs that you and your Gods think should be living wage jobs, that will put them back on your cherished government roles.

    Now DIIAFF
    Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

    For the record, I think the idea of a "living wage job" is stupid. People should not expect to live alone in a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage, let alone support a spouse and kids.

    Do what I fucking did... work you way through college sharing a 3 bedroom place with 4 dudes (yeah, one guy slept on the couch).

    I do agree with many liberal ideas, and I'm pro labor, but I agree that the living wage idea is fucked up.

    That said, is $15/hour really that hard for small business to afford? I wouldn't know, I've been in corporate life for the past 25 years.
    Yeah, it's not 2005 anymore. Just go to college and you'll be a success is a fairy tale.
    Get a REAL degree, you'll be fine.
    STEM or get in a trade.
    @CoachSark, true!??!
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Ah yes, STEM desk jockeys, the contemporary version of the manual laborer.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    We always loved the college guys in the construction trailers. They didn't have a clue or a chance against a wily veteran like me.

    You could start at the bottom and work your way up and learn the REAL way things worked while doing so. There are a lot of yutes today who could thrive in that.

    If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a master of the universe on Wall Street go to college. Otherwise take my fellow republican, APAG's advice and work hard and good things will happen. Most of the time.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    We always loved the college guys in the construction trailers. They didn't have a clue or a chance against a wily veteran like me.

    You could start at the bottom and work your way up and learn the REAL way things worked while doing so. There are a lot of yutes today who could thrive in that.

    If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a master of the universe on Wall Street go to college. Otherwise take my fellow republican, APAG's advice and work hard and good things will happen. Most of the time.

    I'm pretty sure hard work is the key regardless of your education.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    We always loved the college guys in the construction trailers. They didn't have a clue or a chance against a wily veteran like me.

    You could start at the bottom and work your way up and learn the REAL way things worked while doing so. There are a lot of yutes today who could thrive in that.

    If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a master of the universe on Wall Street go to college. Otherwise take my fellow republican, APAG's advice and work hard and good things will happen. Most of the time.

    I'm pretty sure hard work is the key regardless of your education.
    Is that what you are hearing?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    We always loved the college guys in the construction trailers. They didn't have a clue or a chance against a wily veteran like me.

    You could start at the bottom and work your way up and learn the REAL way things worked while doing so. There are a lot of yutes today who could thrive in that.

    If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a master of the universe on Wall Street go to college. Otherwise take my fellow republican, APAG's advice and work hard and good things will happen. Most of the time.

    I'm pretty sure hard work is the key regardless of your education.
    Is that what you are hearing?
    My sources tell me the decision is coming any day. The hammer is about to drop.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    We always loved the college guys in the construction trailers. They didn't have a clue or a chance against a wily veteran like me.

    You could start at the bottom and work your way up and learn the REAL way things worked while doing so. There are a lot of yutes today who could thrive in that.

    If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a master of the universe on Wall Street go to college. Otherwise take my fellow republican, APAG's advice and work hard and good things will happen. Most of the time.

    You could almost be my dad.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    It's weird because my quarter at UW cost like 180 dollars in the mid 70's. I hated college so I bounced around until I started in construction. Back then no degree was required. As the years went by the whole construction management scam started and now you need a degree.

    When college was affordable you didn't need a degree. Now that you "need" a degree and the government is backing the loans the cost is insane.

    The state used to cover way more of the cost back then too. Now most of their budget comes from tuition.

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