To all the slaves me and my Messican ancestors
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This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.PostGameOrangeSlices said:doogsinparadise said:
Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.PurpleJ said:150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.
Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.
And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.
Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people -
Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.PurpleJ said:150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.
Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.
And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.
I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me? -
Sitting Bull just needed more time to get his own braves in there.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.PostGameOrangeSlices said:doogsinparadise said:
Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.PurpleJ said:150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.
Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.
And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.
Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people -
Whole lot of injun talk in this thread to not have @Swaye weigh in.
I hope he hasn't been "relocated" to a reservation without internet. -
After? They must of seen some shit. Now I know how you know @DerekJohnson . He was the reason your family moved here. Fun fact about WW2. My great uncle survived the Bataan Death March. He used to joke about how they would drive by and try to hit them with the butts of their rifles out the window. I'm assuming that part was child's play compared to the rest. I don't know if anyone heard the rest.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.PurpleJ said:150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.
Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.
And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.
I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me? -
If your gonna play genocide you better read the rules first.
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Supposedly there were no indigenous people here in America. I thought the Indians walked across a land bridge from what is now Russia/Asia? So they were immigrants too. I'm a mutt and supposedly part Indian but somehow I'm not offended.
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The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.
Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.
The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources. -
You only need property rights when you start putting up fences, christ.TurdBuffer said:The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.
Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.
The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources. -
So without fences, Natives had no property rights, or didn't "need" them, Doogy? You do realize the Natives fought over land and resources long before the white man appeared on N. America, don't you?
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Not in the sense that you're proposing.
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When each lack the others' conceptual framework about the nature of property "ownership," you get treaties and deals with no actual meetings of the mind, and sow the seeds for eventual conflict. When "giving" means "sharing" to one party, but means "giving away" to the other, you get what we got, Doogy.
Damn those Natives for not establishing Tribal Courts replicating the English Common law Courts. If they had, we could've had mass-incarceration of instead of genocide, and really gruesome death sentences. -
So you were for Indian-giving before you were against it? Or the other way around?TurdBuffer said:When each lack the others' conceptual framework about the nature of property "ownership," you get treaties and deals with no actual meetings of the mind, and sow the seeds for eventual conflict. When "giving" means "sharing" to one party, but means "giving away" to the other, you get what we got, Doogy.
Damn those Natives for not establishing Tribal Courts replicating the English Common law Courts. If they had, we could've had mass-incarceration of instead of genocide, and really gruesome death sentences.
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maybe it's time to seize the white children and sell them off as slaves so they can finally understand what it's like.
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As the only tribal member on this bored I wish all of you would shut the fuck up.
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You should quit posting for 2 weeks and then retire. This stuff makes Hondo look like a Rhodes Scholar not named Pat Haden.doogsinparadise said:If you can't see that it's the institutional United States apologizing rather than individual Americans then I can't help you.
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Eh, no.
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Swaye said:
As the only tribal member on this bored I wish all of you would shut the fuck up.
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Hey now. I'm a Native American, too.Swaye said:As the only tribal member on this bored I wish all of you would shut the fuck up.
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doogs is a right wing racistCosmoKramer said:I'm new here but I'm guessing this dogsofparadise dope is into free shit and a big Bernie fan? Just what I'm
hearingfeeling, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Just what I am hearing
