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To all the slaves me and my Messican ancestors

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,688 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.

    Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people
    This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,688 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.

    I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,486 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2016

    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.

    Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people
    This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.
    Sitting Bull just needed more time to get his own braves in there.
  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    Whole lot of injun talk in this thread to not have @Swaye weigh in.

    I hope he hasn't been "relocated" to a reservation without internet.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    H_D said:

    Whole lot of injun talk in this thread to not have @Swaye weigh in.

    I hope he hasn't been "relocated" to a reservation without internet.

    We have casinos now. Who gives a fuck what happened 150 years ago. The smallpox won.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,762
    edited April 2016

    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.

    I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me?
    After? They must of seen some shit. Now I know how you know @DerekJohnson . He was the reason your family moved here. Fun fact about WW2. My great uncle survived the Bataan Death March. He used to joke about how they would drive by and try to hit them with the butts of their rifles out the window. I'm assuming that part was child's play compared to the rest. I don't know if anyone heard the rest.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    If your gonna play genocide you better read the rules first.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,559 Standard Supporter
    Supposedly there were no indigenous people here in America. I thought the Indians walked across a land bridge from what is now Russia/Asia? So they were immigrants too. I'm a mutt and supposedly part Indian but somehow I'm not offended.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.

    Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.

    The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.

    Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.

    The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources.

    You only need property rights when you start putting up fences, christ.