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To all the slaves me and my Messican ancestors

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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,535
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.
    Thanks for proving my point for me again.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    Break free PGOS, postmodernity awaits my friend.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,861
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    What you never hear about when slavery is discussed, is that slaves were sold to Europeans and Arabs (who had far more slaves) by other Africans. When one tribe would conquer another, the losing tribe would be sold into slavery, or kept as slaves by the victor. Slaves probably considered themselves fairly lucky that they weren't just killed outright.

    So, technically speaking, a lot of African Americans would have never existed if it wasn't for slavery, because their ancestors would've gotten slaughtered instead.

    You never hear Africans in Africa apologizing for winning wars and causing the losers to be shipped off on a boat.

    Arabs, Africans, and Native Americans all had slaves. Indians still have a brutal, oppressive caste system.

    Whites are the only evil race though. Look, that black faggot on ESPN has a Caucasian t-shirt on. How clever. Maybe the NAACP will give him an award.
    Not the point.
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure plenty of politicians have apologized for it over the years.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,581
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    Break free PGOS, postmodernity awaits my friend.

    So postmodernism is cherry picking which parts of history suit your narrative? I'll pass
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,581
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    What you never hear about when slavery is discussed, is that slaves were sold to Europeans and Arabs (who had far more slaves) by other Africans. When one tribe would conquer another, the losing tribe would be sold into slavery, or kept as slaves by the victor. Slaves probably considered themselves fairly lucky that they weren't just killed outright.

    So, technically speaking, a lot of African Americans would have never existed if it wasn't for slavery, because their ancestors would've gotten slaughtered instead.

    You never hear Africans in Africa apologizing for winning wars and causing the losers to be shipped off on a boat.

    Arabs, Africans, and Native Americans all had slaves. Indians still have a brutal, oppressive caste system.

    Whites are the only evil race though. Look, that black faggot on ESPN has a Caucasian t-shirt on. How clever. Maybe the NAACP will give him an award.
    Not the point.
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure plenty of politicians have apologized for it over the years.
    You're not wrong.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    Sledog said:

    Everyone of every race used to be slaves, were discriminated against and lived in ghetto's. Time to get over it.

    I'm pretty sure the British started it.


    Or the Jews.
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,908
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.

    Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people
    This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,908
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.

    I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me?
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,870
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Gee, I wonder why that land didn't have any people on it. Genocide is a real laugh.

    Genocide was the name of the game before modernity. Might made right. It sucks that it happened. But the Indians were committing genocide on other natives long before the white man ever came. Same story across the globe. People killed people. Those with technology were better at killing people
    This. If the Indians didn't want to lose their lands, they would've fought harder.
    Sitting Bull just needed more time to get his own braves in there.
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    H_DH_D Member Posts: 6,098
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    Whole lot of injun talk in this thread to not have @Swaye weigh in.

    I hope he hasn't been "relocated" to a reservation without internet.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,064
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    H_D said:

    Whole lot of injun talk in this thread to not have @Swaye weigh in.

    I hope he hasn't been "relocated" to a reservation without internet.

    We have casinos now. Who gives a fuck what happened 150 years ago. The smallpox won.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,535
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    PurpleJ said:

    150 years ago my family as still in the old country. They came here and took land no one wanted and farmed it for sustenance. Bought it with their lives savings. They survived the depression and fought wars for this country. A few generations later grandpa is the first college grad. Don't ever tell me I owe you anything for what "my" ancestors did because I'll slap the fuckin taste out your mouth for such a lack or respect.

    Maybe do something to better your situation instead of expecting me to suck your dick for something I had no part in.

    And one more thing, putting all whites in a group is the definition of a fucking racist.

    Similar story here. My grandparents fled communism after WW2. My brothers, cousins and I are all the first generation born in the U.S.

    I suppose I should apologize because I'm reaping the benefits of slavery but then shouldn't everyone in America apologize along with me?
    After? They must of seen some shit. Now I know how you know @DerekJohnson . He was the reason your family moved here. Fun fact about WW2. My great uncle survived the Bataan Death March. He used to joke about how they would drive by and try to hit them with the butts of their rifles out the window. I'm assuming that part was child's play compared to the rest. I don't know if anyone heard the rest.
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    If your gonna play genocide you better read the rules first.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,832
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    Supposedly there were no indigenous people here in America. I thought the Indians walked across a land bridge from what is now Russia/Asia? So they were immigrants too. I'm a mutt and supposedly part Indian but somehow I'm not offended.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.

    Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.

    The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    The Natives practiced sharing, but did exclude and fight with rival tribes who swooped in and depleted their resources. The white man practiced private property rights, and thought he's cleverly procured them from the Natives. Hence, when the Natives climbed or tore down whitey's fences, saying WTF, asshole(?), whitey claimed "we had a deal," wars broke out, and whitey coined the term "Indian-giver." Yup, millenials, it didn't come from Seinfeld.

    Thing is though, Natives didn't buy the land, so was it really "theirs" to give, in terms of property rights? Funny how hundreds of years later, we still view the matter in terms of private property rights, using terms like ours, theirs, etc., when doog-brains talk about making things right or giving things back, etc.

    The natives had the right ideas, but the "ours" and "theirs" crowd seem ignorant to the fact they persist in perpetuating the exact ideology that fucked the Natives in the first place. Ironic? Not very, considering the usual sources.

    You only need property rights when you start putting up fences, christ.
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