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Former 4 star AF General says carpet bombing runs counter to the ethics of the military
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I don't entirely disagree but what we first have to do is recognize the jihadist's are fighting a religious war. Our side doesn't seem to want to admit that fact. They hate us because we are not muslims in their mold. They've been waging that war for centuries. The crusades kept them quiet for a long time but that memory has faded and now they think with the money we have given them for oil it's time to go on the attack again. They have been very patient. The there's the whole suni shia mess.........GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're actually not far off. Letting al-Maliki run roughshed with his anti-Sunni campaigns following our departure from Iraq is almost entirely responsible for the rise of ISIS. But killing civilians for the last 15 years has allowed what would be an inconsequential group of 1000 fanatics and former Sadam loyalists to balloon into the 100,000+ fighters that we have today. And that applies to the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and other Islamic groups across the globe.Sledog said:
One fucking idiot to another: Obama helped create ISIS and we have armed them. At least I'm not a clueless fucking idiot!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The most effective way to breed terrorists is to kill innocents and confirm the jihadists' message that America is the enemy. It's the exact reason ISIS is as strong as it is today.Sledog said:
2001 could you put some ear plugs in that air movement is annoying.2001400ex said:
WwooosssshhhhSledog said:Yeah and we didn't use napalm in Iraq....
War has collateral damage. If you want to win you kill the enemy until he no longer wishes to fight. When we do that we win wars when we fuck around winning hearts and minds we get bogged down in quagmires where the politicians decide on who we can kill. I'm not saying there should be excessive collateral damage but it can not be avoided especially in the middle east. Those bastards use civilians as shields and place AA, artillery etc. in schools and Masques. They endanger civilians on purpose as they know our morals will help protect them.
I don't know why I'm responding to you though, you're a fucking idiot.
Odd seems we accidentally killed 250,000 allied civilians in WWII and the allies didn't support the Nazi's........
The turban-headed fucks that are occupying and oppressing your village all of a sudden look like the good guys when your brother is split in two by a missile with "Courtesy of America" stamped on the side. It's really not hard to see how extremism is breeding as fast as it is. -
DisagreeSledog said:
One fucking idiot to another: Obama helped create ISIS and we have armed them. At least I'm not a clueless fucking idiot!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The most effective way to breed terrorists is to kill innocents and confirm the jihadists' message that America is the enemy. It's the exact reason ISIS is as strong as it is today.Sledog said:
2001 could you put some ear plugs in that air movement is annoying.2001400ex said:
WwooosssshhhhSledog said:Yeah and we didn't use napalm in Iraq....
War has collateral damage. If you want to win you kill the enemy until he no longer wishes to fight. When we do that we win wars when we fuck around winning hearts and minds we get bogged down in quagmires where the politicians decide on who we can kill. I'm not saying there should be excessive collateral damage but it can not be avoided especially in the middle east. Those bastards use civilians as shields and place AA, artillery etc. in schools and Masques. They endanger civilians on purpose as they know our morals will help protect them.
I don't know why I'm responding to you though, you're a fucking idiot.
Odd seems we accidentally killed 250,000 allied civilians in WWII and the allies didn't support the Nazi's........ -
Well that's an informative statement.dflea said:
DisagreeSledog said:
One fucking idiot to another: Obama helped create ISIS and we have armed them. At least I'm not a clueless fucking idiot!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The most effective way to breed terrorists is to kill innocents and confirm the jihadists' message that America is the enemy. It's the exact reason ISIS is as strong as it is today.Sledog said:
2001 could you put some ear plugs in that air movement is annoying.2001400ex said:
WwooosssshhhhSledog said:Yeah and we didn't use napalm in Iraq....
War has collateral damage. If you want to win you kill the enemy until he no longer wishes to fight. When we do that we win wars when we fuck around winning hearts and minds we get bogged down in quagmires where the politicians decide on who we can kill. I'm not saying there should be excessive collateral damage but it can not be avoided especially in the middle east. Those bastards use civilians as shields and place AA, artillery etc. in schools and Masques. They endanger civilians on purpose as they know our morals will help protect them.
I don't know why I'm responding to you though, you're a fucking idiot.
Odd seems we accidentally killed 250,000 allied civilians in WWII and the allies didn't support the Nazi's........ -
Are you new here?Sledog said:
Well that's an informative statement.dflea said:
DisagreeSledog said:
One fucking idiot to another: Obama helped create ISIS and we have armed them. At least I'm not a clueless fucking idiot!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The most effective way to breed terrorists is to kill innocents and confirm the jihadists' message that America is the enemy. It's the exact reason ISIS is as strong as it is today.Sledog said:
2001 could you put some ear plugs in that air movement is annoying.2001400ex said:
WwooosssshhhhSledog said:Yeah and we didn't use napalm in Iraq....
War has collateral damage. If you want to win you kill the enemy until he no longer wishes to fight. When we do that we win wars when we fuck around winning hearts and minds we get bogged down in quagmires where the politicians decide on who we can kill. I'm not saying there should be excessive collateral damage but it can not be avoided especially in the middle east. Those bastards use civilians as shields and place AA, artillery etc. in schools and Masques. They endanger civilians on purpose as they know our morals will help protect them.
I don't know why I'm responding to you though, you're a fucking idiot.
Odd seems we accidentally killed 250,000 allied civilians in WWII and the allies didn't support the Nazi's........ -
Been here over a year. But on the football side. Just dropped into Tug to see what it's about.
