A Tale of Two Programs
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But can he even see his boner in his sweatpants?Mad_Son said:I just showed Crazy Larry to my wife. She said he looks like he is a Husky fan who lives in his parents' basement and took a picture of himself. Crazy Larry is one of us.
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"Who knows. . .maybe" is a statement of denial. . .think it through.He_Needs_More_Time said:
What am I denying? Did you ever believe Oregon would go an entire decade of beating Washington? Then add to that ASU win 8 in a row against Washington when let's face it ASU has been pretty average this past decade themselves.tracker said:
Denial can be a very powerful self-defense mechanism.He_Needs_More_Time said:
In 2008 if someone had told me UW would beat USC the next two years there is no way I'd ever believe it. So I understand things change in a hurry.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't think so.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Curious if Oregon will ever pass the all-time series in our lifetime?RoadDawg55 said:
58-42-5!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:Anyone who still calls Oregon the little brother in this relationship is a delusional Doog.
Five or six years ago, people thought $C would never experience 7-5 seasons (mostly SC fans). People thought it would take 10 more years to beat them. It happened in 2009.
No team is great for 10 years nowadays. Floriduh, THE Ohio State, Auburn (not really a perennial top 10 team, but a NC winner who now sucks) and Texass have all fallen to earth in the past few years. Expect it to happen in Eugene in the relatively near future.
Of course, there's the obligatory Sark is mediocre (which I agree with) and right now, they're obviously the superior program. But they aren't going to win 16 more in a row, or 16 or 18. It just won't happen.
Who knows? Maybe Helfrich is a dud and after this year UW replaces Sark with a big time coach.
I just can't believe UW is on the verge of losing 10 straight to Oregon and possible eight straight to ASU.
That statement was also directed at folks who can't seem to grasp that the college football landscape has changed. Let's face it, Oregon is here to stay. They have the university's administration backing the program, unlimited financial support, a solid fanbase, they play fun football that lights-up a TV screen, great marketing, etc, etc. . .they aren't going anywhere.
I doubt Helfrich will be a "dud". I doubt the UW will invest in a big-time coach. The possibility of Oregon going out and getting a big-time coach if they need one is far greater than ours.
Did I believe that Oregon would beat us ten years in a row? Given that our program has been a clusterfuck for almost twenty years now. . .it doesn't surprise me. I don't see us beating Oregon for at least 2-3 more years. . .and that will only happen if Sark figures out he needs to get quality linemen into the program on a yearly basis.
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tracker said:
"Who knows. . .maybe" is a statement of denial. . .think it through.He_Needs_More_Time said:
What am I denying? Did you ever believe Oregon would go an entire decade of beating Washington? Then add to that ASU win 8 in a row against Washington when let's face it ASU has been pretty average this past decade themselves.tracker said:
Denial can be a very powerful self-defense mechanism.He_Needs_More_Time said:
In 2008 if someone had told me UW would beat USC the next two years there is no way I'd ever believe it. So I understand things change in a hurry.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't think so.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Curious if Oregon will ever pass the all-time series in our lifetime?RoadDawg55 said:
58-42-5!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:Anyone who still calls Oregon the little brother in this relationship is a delusional Doog.
Five or six years ago, people thought $C would never experience 7-5 seasons (mostly SC fans). People thought it would take 10 more years to beat them. It happened in 2009.
No team is great for 10 years nowadays. Floriduh, THE Ohio State, Auburn (not really a perennial top 10 team, but a NC winner who now sucks) and Texass have all fallen to earth in the past few years. Expect it to happen in Eugene in the relatively near future.
Of course, there's the obligatory Sark is mediocre (which I agree with) and right now, they're obviously the superior program. But they aren't going to win 16 more in a row, or 16 or 18. It just won't happen.
Who knows? Maybe Helfrich is a dud and after this year UW replaces Sark with a big time coach.
I just can't believe UW is on the verge of losing 10 straight to Oregon and possible eight straight to ASU.
That statement was also directed at folks who can't seem to grasp that the college football landscape has changed. Let's face it, Oregon is here to stay. They have the university's administration backing the program, unlimited financial support, a solid fanbase, they play fun football that lights-up a TV screen, great marketing, etc, etc. . .they aren't going anywhere.
I doubt Helfrich will be a "dud". I doubt the UW will invest in a big-time coach. The possibility of Oregon going out and getting a big-time coach if they need one is far greater than ours.
Did I believe that Oregon would beat us ten years in a row? Given that our program has been a clusterfuck for almost twenty years now. . .it doesn't surprise me. I don't see us beating Oregon for at least 2-3 more years. . .and that will only happen if Sark figures out he needs to get quality linemen into the program on a yearly basis.
BTW, who really cares what the overall W-L record is?
"Who knows . . . maybe" isn't necessarily denial, it could be hedging.
As far as Helfrich is concerned, it doesn't really matter if he's a dud or not. The team is good enough to mask that for awhile, but If he turns out to be Larry Coker v2.0, Phil will not wait as long as Donna did to pull the trigger, and Phil's decision regarding the replacement hire will be based solely on performance. The key to long term success for any program is a combination of administrative and financial support, coupled with high expectations. Oregon has those things, and there is no reason to expect they will change anytime soon.
However, worrying about Oregon or how the college football "landscape has changed" is doogish at best and outright defeatist at worst. There is no reason that Washington cannot again compete at the highest level. The number one current issue for them is competence. We'll see what happens this year. I'm predicting another disappointing season, but I agree with Stewart Mandel and coacheshotseat.com, Sark's seat is already getting hot. Another seven win season and I believe he will be replaced. The problem then becomes Woody. He will again have an open check book, but this time no friggin 0-12, crappy facilities, you have no idea how much damage _________ did, .... take your pick of lame excuses. He will probably whiff the hire, but that hopey changey thing got a vapid empty suit elected president, maybe (hedging not denying) Woody the blind squirrel finds an acorn this time. -
Things change so quickly in college football based on coaching. If UW lucks into the right coach they'll soon quickly be back again.
Just like Oregon can easily go back to what they were under Bellotti. Also Knight despite his deep pockets has yet to show the ability to land a big coach. Every football coach has been an OC who was promoted.
For basketball remember they fired Kent and had this nation wide search where they were rumored to bring in big names like Pitino but had to settle on Altmon(good coach btw) who in 20+ years had one career NCAA tournament win. -
Surprises can happen at anytime. I was never more surprised than by the 2000 Husky team that eked out that 11-1 record and Rose Bowl win. I don't expect it anytime in my remaining lifetime, but that's (duh) the nature of surprises.DerekJohnson said:
Think about this: I have two grandsons now in college who have always been avid fans of Husky Football. Neither remember much of anything about when our team was good enough to achieve a double-digit win season, much less go to a Rose Bowl. They do both remember a lot about good tailgate food and beverage and for that I'm thankful. Should I be concerned about grandsons who can remain fanatical about a doogloser UW football program that has accomplished so little?
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so now you refer to your mom as your wife?Mad_Son said:I just showed Crazy Larry to my wife. She said he looks like he is a Husky fan who lives in his parents' basement and took a picture of himself. Crazy Larry is one of us.
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if the future was yesterday, what the fuck is tomorrow?
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Saturday.TheGlove said:if the future was yesterday, what the fuck is tomorrow?
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tomorrow you'll be wrong.TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
At 46-7 and four straight BCS games some might say Chip Kelly morphed into a "big" coach in his four years as head coach in Eugene. I guess you mean big coach at the outset but who cares as long as the program is successful.He_Needs_More_Time said:Things change so quickly in college football based on coaching. If UW lucks into the right coach they'll soon quickly be back again.
Just like Oregon can easily go back to what they were under Bellotti. Also Knight despite his deep pockets has yet to show the ability to land a big coach. Every football coach has been an OC who was promoted. For basketball remember they fired Kent and had this nation wide search where they were rumored to bring in big names like Pitino but had to settle on Altmon(good coach btw) who in 20+ years had one career NCAA tournament win.
I think the issue is definitely more relevant in basketball where the rumor was Knight figured he could attract Pitino, Izzo, or one of the other top names once the new gym was finished. Oops, didn't happen. -
is that slogan on OSU ad posters?TheGlove said:if the future was yesterday, what the fuck is tomorrow?
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I'm to the point I'm beginning to feel Washington deserves what it's become.
Don James was thrown under the bus by an egotistical upper campus for a few different reasons but his politics were at the top of the list. (Why did that matter?) Up next His Slickness, the gambling and the pussification that he started. Then we have the Welfare Rat aka The Tyster who played the race card and kicked the crap out of the AD and president, followed by the ulitmate pussy, Cream Puff.
Have we created this shit of pile with 16 years of non-stop blunders? Maybe so. -
You have a wife? Pics or it's all a lie.Mad_Son said:I just showed Crazy Larry to my wife. She said he looks like he is a Husky fan who lives in his parents' basement and took a picture of himself. Crazy Larry is one of us.
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I thought Larry was black?WhiskeyDawg said:
You have a wife? Pics or it's all a lie.Mad_Son said:I just showed Crazy Larry to my wife. She said he looks like he is a Husky fan who lives in his parents' basement and took a picture of himself. Crazy Larry is one of us.
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http://youtu.be/zPGb4STRfKwWhiskeyDawg said:
You have a wife? Pics or it's all a lie.Mad_Son said:I just showed Crazy Larry to my wife. She said he looks like he is a Husky fan who lives in his parents' basement and took a picture of himself. Crazy Larry is one of us.
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Nice avatar. LOL. You get more spam for that.He_Needs_More_Time said:Things change so quickly in college football based on coaching. If UW lucks into the right coach they'll soon quickly be back again.
Just like Oregon can easily go back to what they were under Bellotti. Also Knight despite his deep pockets has yet to show the ability to land a big coach. Every football coach has been an OC who was promoted.
For basketball remember they fired Kent and had this nation wide search where they were rumored to bring in big names like Pitino but had to settle on Altmon(good coach btw) who in 20+ years had one career NCAA tournament win. -
I hope to live at least another 17 years at which time I'll be 90. The way it's going and I don't see sufficient reason to believe that Oregon superiority in football will change, I expect the ducks will be on top of us in the overall series within my long lifetime.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Curious if Oregon will ever pass the all-time series in our lifetime?RoadDawg55 said:
58-42-5!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:Anyone who still calls Oregon the little brother in this relationship is a delusional Doog.
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Things change in college football though. UW is close right now, if they hired the right coach I can see them turning the tide so UW is winning 6 out of 10 against Oregon.Tailgater said:
I hope to live at least another 17 years at which time I'll be 90. The way it's going and I don't see sufficient reason to believe that Oregon superiority in football will change, I expect the ducks will be on top of us in the overall series within my long lifetime.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Curious if Oregon will ever pass the all-time series in our lifetime?RoadDawg55 said:
58-42-5!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:Anyone who still calls Oregon the little brother in this relationship is a delusional Doog.
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I got to your point..... at least close enough to take a duck on it....... a long time ago, like in the Summer of 2003. There's no question that virtually everything that's happened to trash Husky Football was self-inflicted at the hands of a UW administration that was and may still be more indifferent to their football program and athletics in general that they were incompetent or corrupt. Because of this, I don't believe UW will ever again be at Oregon's level in football again unless Sarkisian or a replacement head coach with similar ability and qualifications can learn enough to build a program that will defy the odds. We'll never again see a miracle such as Don James.Steve_Bowman said:I'm to the point I'm beginning to feel Washington deserves what it's become.
Don James was thrown under the bus by an egotistical upper campus for a few different reasons but his politics were at the top of the list. (Why did that matter?) Up next His Slickness, the gambling and the pussification that he started. Then we have the Welfare Rat aka The Tyster who played the race card and kicked the crap out of the AD and president, followed by the ulitmate pussy, Cream Puff.
Have we created this shit of pile with 16 years of non-stop blunders? Maybe so.
I'm not sure what you mean by "egotistical" upper campus. Some UW faculty are Huskyfans similar to us while the others are elitists who for reasons known mostly to themselves..... have and probably still do hate the popularity and success of Husky Football. Like so many narrow minded professionals with overblown intellects and swelled heads, they must envy, hate, and be constantly wary of those beneath them with whom they share no interests and who are more successful in non-academic accomplishments especially in pay scale. I suppose that is "egotistical".
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The 2013 Huskies are close as they demonstrated defensively and offensively on the field at Palo Alto last Saturday, but they still have Sark on the sideline managing his program in a manner which is likely to always come-up short in some phase of preparations and/or the game when going against the best. His latest failure was to takeHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Things change in college football though. UW is close right now, if they hired the right coach I can see them turning the tide so UW is winning 6 out of 10 against Oregon.Tailgater said:
I hope to live at least another 17 years at which time I'll be 90. The way it's going and I don't see sufficient reason to believe that Oregon superiority in football will change, I expect the ducks will be on top of us in the overall series within my long lifetime.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Curious if Oregon will ever pass the all-time series in our lifetime?RoadDawg55 said:
58-42-5!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:Anyone who still calls Oregon the little brother in this relationship is a delusional Doog.
Had UW hired Mora going into the 2008 season I bet they would have defeated Oregon by now if not twice.
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