Former Seattle Church Run Like Organized Crime Syndicate
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People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is -
I went to a Mars Hill service with Driscoll years ago with an ex girlfriend. They had a rock band that played a song where the chorus was "nothing but the blood of Jesus!". The ex wasn't amused when I laughed at that.
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Who cares where that money went... Retards weren't getting it back anyways. That's what happens when you flush money down the toilet.
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Greatest scam in history.Tequilla said:People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is -
It would be cool if Slayer covered it or something.allpurpleallgold said:I went to a Mars Hill service with Driscoll years ago with an ex girlfriend. They had a rock band that played a song where the chorus was "nothing but the blood of Jesus!". The ex wasn't amused when I laughed at that.
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But why is organized religion like organized crime?
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I have a Christian friend who would never run a church like a crime syndicate...
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Only because he would blow it up and kill everyone inside on the first day.CuntWaffle said:I have a Christian friend who would never run a church like a crime syndicate...
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Fucking amateurs.
This is how you run a religious operation like organized crime:
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What if Reign in Blood was actually about Jesus?PurpleJ said:
It would be cool if Slayer covered it or something.allpurpleallgold said:I went to a Mars Hill service with Driscoll years ago with an ex girlfriend. They had a rock band that played a song where the chorus was "nothing but the blood of Jesus!". The ex wasn't amused when I laughed at that.
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Organised religion is fucking weird and antiquated.
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I like to pretend I don't have Christmas at my house and make fun of organized religion. I like to do that.Gladstone said:Organised religion is fucking weird and antiquated.
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Threatening to sue someone = bad ass move
Actually suing someone = dumb ass move
Nothing will come of this, they willingly gave the money in good faith, shame on them for being duped. -
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I just thought this up. I should put it in a book of my quotes.
Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven
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Scamming money out of idiots is the American dream, Mark Driscoll is a hero as far as I'm concerned.
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I should have hired a live band for those nights at the Taki Tiki
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I can hear the chorus now...DerekJohnson said:I should have hired a live band for those nights at the Taki Tiki
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As a Man of the Cloth...yes this is true.salemcoog said: -
I know it's chic to make fun of "organized religion" (Mars Hill was non-denominational and, thus, not a religion. Although a hypocrite, Driscoll spoke out against organized religion), but to say anyone deserves to be defrauded of their money out of good faith is FS.Tequilla said:People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is
This, though, is an inherent problem when a pastor becomes more important than the church itself. And in tithing, people aren't paying "significant money to support a religion", they are led to believe they're helping keep the doors open, but the majority of the tithing should be going to outreach programs, missionaries, the poor, other ministries, etc. You are trusting that the church will appropriate the funds as necessary. A past church I went to had a complete giving statement every month, how much was given and EXACTLY where every dollar went to, including the pastors' salaries (which they all kept below 25k). That's how it should be.
Nobody "deserves" to be defrauded out of their money. But if anybody does it's douchefucks like Jeff Razore who give hundreds of thousands to their fucking high school football team. That's gayer than gay. -
Nah if you're too stupid to figure out that they're not putting your money to good use then you deserve to get scammed. I'd never even attend a church like that, let alone write them a check. That's like giving Kim money.
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PLSS, true?PurpleJ said:Nah if you're too stupid to figure out that they're not putting your money to good use then you deserve to get scammed. I'd never even attend a church like that, let alone write them a check. That's like giving Kim money.
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Don't think this church lets the gays in. PLSS needs a more tolerant charlatan. He's not gonna take that. Oh yes he is.GrundleStiltzkin said:
PLSS, true?PurpleJ said:Nah if you're too stupid to figure out that they're not putting your money to good use then you deserve to get scammed. I'd never even attend a church like that, let alone write them a check. That's like giving Kim money.
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Im down with most of what you are saying other than all pastors salaries should be under $25k. I'm not for the millionaire pastor but most of those dudes spent a long time in school and work crazy hours, I have no problemDugtheDoog said:
I know it's chic to make fun of "organized religion" (Mars Hill was non-denominational and, thus, not a religion. Although a hypocrite, Driscoll spoke out against organized religion), but to say anyone deserves to be defrauded of their money out of good faith is FS.Tequilla said:People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is
This, though, is an inherent problem when a pastor becomes more important than the church itself. And in tithing, people aren't paying "significant money to support a religion", they are led to believe they're helping keep the doors open, but the majority of the tithing should be going to outreach programs, missionaries, the poor, other ministries, etc. You are trusting that the church will appropriate the funds as necessary. A past church I went to had a complete giving statement every month, how much was given and EXACTLY where every dollar went to, including the pastors' salaries (which they all kept below 25k). That's how it should be.
Nobody "deserves" to be defrauded out of their money. But if anybody does it's douchefucks like Jeff Razore who give hundreds of thousands to their fucking high school football team. That's gayer than gay.
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I didn't realize you could make such good money with a church. I'm starting one tomorrow. We will practice idol worship (Keeley) and during lent you will only be able to eat Cheetos.
Here's our first Saint:
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Do we muzzle the ox that treads the grain?dnc said:
Im down with most of what you are saying other than all pastors salaries should be under $25k. I'm not for the millionaire pastor but most of those dudes spent a long time in school and work crazy hours, I have no problemDugtheDoog said:
I know it's chic to make fun of "organized religion" (Mars Hill was non-denominational and, thus, not a religion. Although a hypocrite, Driscoll spoke out against organized religion), but to say anyone deserves to be defrauded of their money out of good faith is FS.Tequilla said:People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is
This, though, is an inherent problem when a pastor becomes more important than the church itself. And in tithing, people aren't paying "significant money to support a religion", they are led to believe they're helping keep the doors open, but the majority of the tithing should be going to outreach programs, missionaries, the poor, other ministries, etc. You are trusting that the church will appropriate the funds as necessary. A past church I went to had a complete giving statement every month, how much was given and EXACTLY where every dollar went to, including the pastors' salaries (which they all kept below 25k). That's how it should be.
Nobody "deserves" to be defrauded out of their money. But if anybody does it's douchefucks like Jeff Razore who give hundreds of thousands to their fucking high school football team. That's gayer than gay.
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Awfully warm for February, 50 ADRaceBannon said:
Do we muzzle the ox that treads the grain?dnc said:
Im down with most of what you are saying other than all pastors salaries should be under $25k. I'm not for the millionaire pastor but most of those dudes spent a long time in school and work crazy hours, I have no problemDugtheDoog said:
I know it's chic to make fun of "organized religion" (Mars Hill was non-denominational and, thus, not a religion. Although a hypocrite, Driscoll spoke out against organized religion), but to say anyone deserves to be defrauded of their money out of good faith is FS.Tequilla said:People that donate over $90k to a church over a multi-year period probably deserve to be defrauded out of it IMO ...
That doesn't mean that the above should be twisted into any specific religious beliefs by me or not ... but people that pay significant money to support a religion should probably take a long walk and get some perspective about what religion really is
This, though, is an inherent problem when a pastor becomes more important than the church itself. And in tithing, people aren't paying "significant money to support a religion", they are led to believe they're helping keep the doors open, but the majority of the tithing should be going to outreach programs, missionaries, the poor, other ministries, etc. You are trusting that the church will appropriate the funds as necessary. A past church I went to had a complete giving statement every month, how much was given and EXACTLY where every dollar went to, including the pastors' salaries (which they all kept below 25k). That's how it should be.
Nobody "deserves" to be defrauded out of their money. But if anybody does it's douchefucks like Jeff Razore who give hundreds of thousands to their fucking high school football team. That's gayer than gay.
with them being paid comfortably.
