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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club
    TSIO officially if we lose to Stanford/WSU/OSU.

    Win those 3 games and you might survive a loss to Oregon as long as you go deep in the P12 tourney.

    You're probably right, TSIO.
  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    When's rowing season?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    The season's over ... you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise ...

    They could black out and back their way in ... but this team has entered the part of the year where grown man hoops gets played and the little boys playing rat ball get punched in the mouth.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    The season's over ... you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise ...

    They could black out and back their way in ... but this team has entered the part of the year where grown man hoops gets played and the little boys playing rat ball get punched in the mouth.

    I'd say rat ball does pretty well until say, the sweet 16?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    The season's over ... you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise ...

    They could black out and back their way in ... but this team has entered the part of the year where grown man hoops gets played and the little boys playing rat ball get punched in the mouth.

    I'd say rat ball does pretty well until say, the sweet 16 February?
    Fixed that for you
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Actually the Sweet 16 is in March.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Actually the Sweet 16 is in March.

    And when is the last time Romar made it to the NCAAs?

    Just sayin'
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Tequilla said:

    Actually the Sweet 16 is in March.

    And when is the last time Romar made it to the NCAAs?

    Just sayin'
    Aaannnd the Seattle media is immediately defending Romar. Is it because he is such a likable guy? Is it because he is black?


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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    Actually the Sweet 16 is in March.

    And when is the last time we had a good team until February?

    Just sayin'
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    I do see the majority of responses on social media to be lambasting Romar, with the odd "too many Romar haters" post out there.

    We can only hope for a scandal in which Romar is directly the culprit, because Cohen isn't going to fire him
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    WHERE ARE ALL THE ROMAR HATERZ NOW!!!!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    MelloDawg said:

    I do see the majority of responses on social media to be lambasting Romar, with the odd "too many Romar haters" post out there.

    We can only hope for a scandal in which Romar is directly the culprit, because Cohen isn't going to fire him

    THIS.

    Anyone that thinks a white woman is gonna fire a black head coach is FS.

    It would take a scandal.
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    It's downright embarrassing in the age of coaches being on the hot seat for sucking for a couple years that UW isn't willing to can a coach who can't make a 68 team fucking tourney for the 5th straight year. Not to mention the fact that he has run his own program into the ground and still has the same moronic faults that everyone who has an ounce of basketball knowledge could see even when they were winning. What more does anyone need to see?

    I don't care what anyone says. If romar was white he would have been fired 2 years ago. But everyone is scared shitless that somehow firing romar will drive all recruits away. I'm not sure if anyone noticed but almost everyone romar recruited the last few years left the team while he was still here. If the season nose dive continues I will be very concerned that a few more players will go to the nba or transfer regardless of whether romar is retained. Romar has been the central point of a whole lot of teams which cancerous cores. I thought this team was different but having a lot of losses can change things in a hurry.

    The players that are here are not all going to just pull up roots and leave if romar is fired. The people who scare you with that shit just don't follow how transfers work. They aren't going to go somewhere to redshirt when they look around at the talent. It's also saying that we? can't bring in anyone who would actually convince them to stay. Anyone who would leave was probably leaving if romar stays anyhow based on PT or just wanting to get out of the shitshow. We all saw it last year with the mass exodus of players.





  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    It's downright embarrassing in the age of coaches being on the hot seat for sucking for a couple years that UW isn't willing to can a coach who can't make a 68 team fucking tourney for the 5th straight year. Not to mention the fact that he has run his own program into the ground and still has the same moronic faults that everyone who has an ounce of basketball knowledge could see even when they were winning. What more does anyone need to see?

    I don't care what anyone says. If romar was white he would have been fired 2 years ago. But everyone is scared shitless that somehow firing romar will drive all recruits away. I'm not sure if anyone noticed but almost everyone romar recruited the last few years left the team while he was still here. If the season nose dive continues I will be very concerned that a few more players will go to the nba or transfer regardless of whether romar is retained. Romar has been the central point of a whole lot of teams which cancerous cores. I thought this team was different but having a lot of losses can change things in a hurry.

    The players that are here are not all going to just pull up roots and leave if romar is fired. The people who scare you with that shit just don't follow how transfers work. They aren't going to go somewhere to redshirt when they look around at the talent. It's also saying that we? can't bring in anyone who would actually convince them to stay. Anyone who would leave was probably leaving if romar stays anyhow based on PT or just wanting to get out of the shitshow. We all saw it last year with the mass exodus of players.





    I don't disagree.

    But firing Romar now all but guarantees we not only lose Fultz, but Murray and Chriss both go pro for sure.

    Maybe they go pro anyways, I don't know.

    At this point, encouraging Romar to retire seems like the more realistic route to change.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852

    It's downright embarrassing in the age of coaches being on the hot seat for sucking for a couple years that UW isn't willing to can a coach who can't make a 68 team fucking tourney for the 5th straight year. Not to mention the fact that he has run his own program into the ground and still has the same moronic faults that everyone who has an ounce of basketball knowledge could see even when they were winning. What more does anyone need to see?

    I don't care what anyone says. If romar was white he would have been fired 2 years ago. But everyone is scared shitless that somehow firing romar will drive all recruits away. I'm not sure if anyone noticed but almost everyone romar recruited the last few years left the team while he was still here. If the season nose dive continues I will be very concerned that a few more players will go to the nba or transfer regardless of whether romar is retained. Romar has been the central point of a whole lot of teams which cancerous cores. I thought this team was different but having a lot of losses can change things in a hurry.

    The players that are here are not all going to just pull up roots and leave if romar is fired. The people who scare you with that shit just don't follow how transfers work. They aren't going to go somewhere to redshirt when they look around at the talent. It's also saying that we? can't bring in anyone who would actually convince them to stay. Anyone who would leave was probably leaving if romar stays anyhow based on PT or just wanting to get out of the shitshow. We all saw it last year with the mass exodus of players.





    I don't disagree.

    But firing Romar now all but guarantees we not only lose Fultz, but Murray and Chriss both go pro for sure.

    Maybe they go pro anyways, I don't know.

    At this point, encouraging Romar to retire seems like the more realistic route to change.
    I respect you and the choices you make in your life, but I think the "we'll lose Awesome Sauce Recruit X" is straw man. I'm fine sacrificing a guy who is a one and done if it means getting a guy who can take the next step. You'd have to be functionally retarded to fail in recruiting the Seattle area and there's always enough talent here to get into the program and get tourney-eligible.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    I gave up on Romar getting fired years ago. It will never happen when he has two more big recruits coming in next year. I'm excited for Murray and Chriss to go pro after the NIT. I look forward to next year's NIT with Fultz and Timmins before they go pro.

    I agree, but what good are big time recruits when you have a checked out coach? When Oregon fired Ernie, they had nothing in the coffers, but Altman utilized the senior transfer program and put on a competitive team with almost zero talent.

    Basically, a good coaching hire with limited talent puts you in the same spot as you are now with great talent and a useless coach. At least in the first scenario, you can improve.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144

    I gave up on Romar getting fired years ago. It will never happen when he has two more big recruits coming in next year. I'm excited for Murray and Chriss to go pro after the NIT. I look forward to next year's NIT with Fultz and Timmins before they go pro.

    I agree, but what good are big time recruits when you have a checked out coach? When Oregon fired Ernie, they had nothing in the coffers, but Altman utilized the senior transfer program and put on a competitive team with almost zero talent.

    Basically, a good coaching hire with limited talent puts you in the same spot as you are now with great talent and a useless coach. At least in the first scenario, you can improve.
    I wish we would have fired Romar years ago.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited February 2016

    I gave up on Romar getting fired years ago. It will never happen when he has two more big recruits coming in next year. I'm excited for Murray and Chriss to go pro after the NIT. I look forward to next year's NIT with Fultz and Timmins before they go pro.

    I agree, but what good are big time recruits when you have a checked out coach? When Oregon fired Ernie, they had nothing in the coffers, but Altman utilized the senior transfer program and put on a competitive team with almost zero talent.

    Basically, a good coaching hire with limited talent puts you in the same spot as you are now with great talent and a useless coach. At least in the first scenario, you can improve.
    I wish we would have fired Romar years ago.
    I wasn't replying to you directly. I was more or less making a point that the AD should be more worried about coaching than a single influx. Meaning, that it would suck to lose some big recruits in a class, but long term, the program would be miles ahead with a good coach.

    It's pretty ridiculous how they can't see the big picture. But why should I talk, our football program STILL hasn't finished reading the book on Helfrich yet.
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223

    It's downright embarrassing in the age of coaches being on the hot seat for sucking for a couple years that UW isn't willing to can a coach who can't make a 68 team fucking tourney for the 5th straight year. Not to mention the fact that he has run his own program into the ground and still has the same moronic faults that everyone who has an ounce of basketball knowledge could see even when they were winning. What more does anyone need to see?

    I don't care what anyone says. If romar was white he would have been fired 2 years ago. But everyone is scared shitless that somehow firing romar will drive all recruits away. I'm not sure if anyone noticed but almost everyone romar recruited the last few years left the team while he was still here. If the season nose dive continues I will be very concerned that a few more players will go to the nba or transfer regardless of whether romar is retained. Romar has been the central point of a whole lot of teams which cancerous cores. I thought this team was different but having a lot of losses can change things in a hurry.

    The players that are here are not all going to just pull up roots and leave if romar is fired. The people who scare you with that shit just don't follow how transfers work. They aren't going to go somewhere to redshirt when they look around at the talent. It's also saying that we? can't bring in anyone who would actually convince them to stay. Anyone who would leave was probably leaving if romar stays anyhow based on PT or just wanting to get out of the shitshow. We all saw it last year with the mass exodus of players.





    I don't disagree.

    But firing Romar now all but guarantees we not only lose Fultz, but Murray and Chriss both go pro for sure.

    Maybe they go pro anyways, I don't know.

    At this point, encouraging Romar to retire seems like the more realistic route to change.
    I totally agree with the retire angle, but he doesn't want to retire. If we hired a strong AD who could tell him he's either retiring from UW or getting canned then it would be something, but I obviously have zero confidence in that.

    Making decisions on whether or not players go pro, transfer, or not attend(ie fultz) is spadoFS. Romar has had talent here and done jack shit with it. He had 3 first round players and couldn't make the tourney. Why is anyone scared of possible turmoil that may never arise?

    We could all play this game and say, what if UW hires Archie Miller? If he comes in and talks to fultz and convinces murray and others to stay now all of a sudden not only did you keep these guys you have a much better coach and a chance to build a stud recruiting class off of a huge upcoming season. Conversely we? sit around with romar and know exactly how the season plays out even with the talent and prolong the inevitable.

    What's the worst that happens if romar is canned? we? miss the ncaa's b/c players/recruits leave? Weird, that sounds awful familiar to the last 5 years.......
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
    And why should I care about that?

    Why should 17-18 year old kids dictate what grown ups be doing?
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
    And why should I care about that?

    Why should 17-18 year old kids dictate what grown ups be doing?
    I'm not saying UW should let him out. I could care less. One player who will be here one year isn't going to change the direction of a program. The coach will. So whether fultz comes or not isn't going to matter in the grand scheme of fixing husky hoops
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
    And why should I care about that?

    Why should 17-18 year old kids dictate what grown ups be doing?
    Then why bring up the LOI?

    If Romar goes Fultz will get out of his LOI. If you think Romar should go regardless I agree, but Fultz's LOI means nothing.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
    And why should I care about that?

    Why should 17-18 year old kids dictate what grown ups be doing?
    Then why bring up the LOI?

    If Romar goes Fultz will get out of his LOI. If you think Romar should go regardless I agree, but Fultz's LOI means nothing.
    Purely for those saying that Fultz is guaranteed to leave if Romar leaves.

    He may ... but he's also already signed his LOI. We don't have to let him out of it. We can be nice and do so ... but we hold the leverage on it ... not Fultz.

    And as has been stated ad nauseam, the right coach matters 1000x more anyway.

    Go look around the country at the number of "basketball schools" ... the thing you'll notice with them all is that it is tied to the quality of the coach.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    NIT hopes are still alive you negas. Already have my tickets!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited February 2016
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Hasn't Fultz already signed his LOI?

    Yes, but there has been times when a player is released if the coach is let go and allowed to leave.
    And why should I care about that?

    Why should 17-18 year old kids dictate what grown ups be doing?
    Then why bring up the LOI?

    If Romar goes Fultz will get out of his LOI. If you think Romar should go regardless I agree, but Fultz's LOI means nothing.
    Purely for those saying that Fultz is guaranteed to leave if Romar leaves.

    He may ... but he's also already signed his LOI. We don't have to let him out of it. We can be nice and do so ... but we hold the leverage on it ... not Fultz.

    And as has been stated ad nauseam, the right coach matters 1000x more anyway.

    Go look around the country at the number of "basketball schools" ... the thing you'll notice with them all is that it is tied to the quality of the coach.
    Nobody holds kids to their LOIs when a coach is canned. If Romar is gone, Fultz will be too.