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Don't hate more for this, but I think Dotson will be a 2016 contributor coming out of Spring. He's the "wait 'til Ivan gets a hold of him" script in practice. Came in at 150 lbs, will start the Fall at 180 with 4.4 speed. On record...hold me accountable.
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He very well might contribute, we saw good flashes of him in the bowl game. But only reason I think he might be on couch watch is because McGrew might pass him up on the depth chart as the pass catching speed back.AEB said:Don't hate more for this, but I think Dotson will be a 2016 contributor coming out of Spring. He's the "wait 'til Ivan gets a hold of him" script in practice. Came in at 150 lbs, will start the Fall at 180 with 4.4 speed. On record...hold me accountable.
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LOL that anyone would single out this particular thread on HH as racist.Vegasdawg said:why the racist comments? Do you believe it is necessary in order to discuss college recruiting?
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Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19. -
I'd probably project 15-16, but I can't argue with your logic.FremontTroll said:
Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19.
Petersen has actually said that he thinks 17-18 is the ideal class size. -
That is interesting I didn't know he was that specific. It is pretty clear looking at his process from the outside that he highly values class and position balance. I am sure this results in a significant benefit in being able to plan 2-3 years ahead and manage a roster. Especially compared to the way Sark did it.AIRWOLF said:
I'd probably project 15-16, but I can't argue with your logic.FremontTroll said:
Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19.
Petersen has actually said that he thinks 17-18 is the ideal class size.
If you go lower than 17 in a class you risk being super young 3 years down the line unless somehow the entire class manages to become contributors.
Stanford will be a team to watch for a downturn next year due to their 12 person 2013 recruiting class of which only 4 have become significant contributors and one of those is off to the NFL (Hooper.) Good luck replacing Hooper and 3/5 starting OL with freshmen and sophomores not to mention half the defense. -
Peterman just did simple math. 85 schollies divided by five years (everyone redshirts). Seventeen is ideal with no attrition.FremontTroll said:
That is interesting I didn't know he was that specific.AIRWOLF said:
I'd probably project 15-16, but I can't argue with your logic.FremontTroll said:
Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19.
Petersen has actually said that he thinks 17-18 is the ideal class size.
He knows this is not an ideal world.
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Yeah good point the math actually doesn't work out since not everyone redshirts.EwaDawg said:
Peterman just did simple math. 85 schollies divided by five years (everyone redshirts). Seventeen is ideal with no attrition.FremontTroll said:
That is interesting I didn't know he was that specific.AIRWOLF said:
I'd probably project 15-16, but I can't argue with your logic.FremontTroll said:
Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19.
Petersen has actually said that he thinks 17-18 is the ideal class size.
He knows this is not an ideal world.
IMO 17 should be the absolute floor and we should aim for 20-21 in most years. -
I don't disagree, but I heard Petersen's interview on 710 AM after signing day and he said he actually prefers 17-18 versus 21-22+.FremontTroll said:
Yeah good point the math actually doesn't work out since not everyone redshirts.EwaDawg said:
Peterman just did simple math. 85 schollies divided by five years (everyone redshirts). Seventeen is ideal with no attrition.FremontTroll said:
That is interesting I didn't know he was that specific.AIRWOLF said:
I'd probably project 15-16, but I can't argue with your logic.FremontTroll said:
Attrition of 7-8 over the next 18 months isn't that high. Some schools need 7 guys to LEAVE in the next 6 months just to fit in their 2015 signees.AIRWOLF said:
Would need a bunch of early entries or some very un-Petersen like attrition to get to that number. Not saying it is impossible, but it seems a little high as a baseline estimate.AEB said:The need is two RBs in this class. Weddington and Ahmed? That'd be great.
I'm assuming 17-18 in this class:
3 DB
2 LB
2 DT/NT
1 DE
4 OL
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR/TE
Especially considering there has been low attrition the last year or two there are a number of guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes that could leave for greener pastures elsewhere. CP may be a great molder of men but he can't play more than 11 guys at a time. Also SMFJ should go pro and there are a few other guys who could be early entrants with big 2016 seasons.
I would guess 17 right now but wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at 18 or 19.
Petersen has actually said that he thinks 17-18 is the ideal class size.
He knows this is not an ideal world.
IMO 17 should be the absolute floor and we should aim for 20-21 in most years.
I don't recall his rationale, if he actually described it.
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He said that 17-20 is ideal in terms of it meaning that your players that you are recruiting are sticking around and developing well and you aren't needing to load up on players.
I think he was talking more in the context of it reflecting that they are targeting the right players if they are in the 17-20 range, more than anything.
