David Blatt canned
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Shit team that needed a scapegoat for the Warriors drubbing ...
Let's be honest and realistic here ... when you get blown out like they did against the Warriors ... that isn't coaching. -
Peter Vescey tweeted that Blatt told people it was him or Love.
I thought Blatt was good game to game in the playoffs last year. But Scott Brooks was also decent at that and he fucking sucked.
This is probably the last hope for Love. Like maybe Blatt just didn't know what he had and how to use him. Pretty weak but maybe. -
Blatt's track record of success in Europe tells me that he knows how to coach ...
LeBron runs that organization ... if he didn't you wouldn't be seeing comments in articles announcing the firing that LeBron wasn't consulted about the decision. That's absolute and total BS.
They have built that team to be a plodding size team that is probably built to play against the Spurs and maybe Thunder but will get absolutely exposed against a team like the Warriors that can run circles around them.
Let's be honest that the Warriors also laid a beating down on Chicago 2 nights later ... it's what they are capable of when properly motivated.
The fundamental problem with Cleveland is that the identity is LeBron doing LeBron things but he's slowly morphing into not as dominant of a player as he used to be ... he's 31 and he's already played 1,129 career games and 44,756 minutes. Just to compare, Kobe's played a total of 56,471 minutes in his career. We're probably at the point where LeBron's going to maybe have this and at best 2 more high end seasons left in him to be able to win a championship.
If you consider Blatt in over his head, then you go find a coach that isn't in over his head. Instead you turn the roster over to Tyronn Lue with no head coaching experience. Firing Blatt and bringing in someone like Tom Thibadeoux maybe makes some sense given the reasons provided. But as is it just plays out that the players didn't like the coach and the players won when in reality it is their own play that is the fundamental problem.
Love's a talented offensive player that is neutered into a glorified role player role with LeBron. Instead of being able to flourish offensively he's limited and then that exposes the fact that he's not a great defensive player. They'd be better off with a far better defensive player that is limited offensively. To some degree it's the same thing with Kyrie Irving in that he's great with the ball in his hand offensively but he's not a tremendous defensive player. What you saw against Golden State was the continued exploitation of their terrible defensive players. What worked for them in the Finals against Golden State was playing high end defense at the expense of the offense ... but LeBron needed more help than what he was getting. What they need on their roster are a bunch of guys like Nic Batum, Trevor Ariza, etc. that have offensive abilities but have a calling card defensively. Instead, they've got too many plodding bigs that can only go hit the glass or guys that can hit shots on the perimeter but can't defend anybody. When compared to the Warriors and Spurs, it's not a championship caliber team. -
tldrTequilla said:Blatt's track record of success in Europe tells me that he knows how to coach ...
LeBron runs that organization ... if he didn't you wouldn't be seeing comments in articles announcing the firing that LeBron wasn't consulted about the decision. That's absolute and total BS.
They have built that team to be a plodding size team that is probably built to play against the Spurs and maybe Thunder but will get absolutely exposed against a team like the Warriors that can run circles around them.
Let's be honest that the Warriors also laid a beating down on Chicago 2 nights later ... it's what they are capable of when properly motivated.
The fundamental problem with Cleveland is that the identity is LeBron doing LeBron things but he's slowly morphing into not as dominant of a player as he used to be ... he's 31 and he's already played 1,129 career games and 44,756 minutes. Just to compare, Kobe's played a total of 56,471 minutes in his career. We're probably at the point where LeBron's going to maybe have this and at best 2 more high end seasons left in him to be able to win a championship.
If you consider Blatt in over his head, then you go find a coach that isn't in over his head. Instead you turn the roster over to Tyronn Lue with no head coaching experience. Firing Blatt and bringing in someone like Tom Thibadeoux maybe makes some sense given the reasons provided. But as is it just plays out that the players didn't like the coach and the players won when in reality it is their own play that is the fundamental problem.
Love's a talented offensive player that is neutered into a glorified role player role with LeBron. Instead of being able to flourish offensively he's limited and then that exposes the fact that he's not a great defensive player. They'd be better off with a far better defensive player that is limited offensively. To some degree it's the same thing with Kyrie Irving in that he's great with the ball in his hand offensively but he's not a tremendous defensive player. What you saw against Golden State was the continued exploitation of their terrible defensive players. What worked for them in the Finals against Golden State was playing high end defense at the expense of the offense ... but LeBron needed more help than what he was getting. What they need on their roster are a bunch of guys like Nic Batum, Trevor Ariza, etc. that have offensive abilities but have a calling card defensively. Instead, they've got too many plodding bigs that can only go hit the glass or guys that can hit shots on the perimeter but can't defend anybody. When compared to the Warriors and Spurs, it's not a championship caliber team. -
What?Tequilla said:Blatt's track record of success in Europe tells me that he knows how to coach ...
LeBron runs that organization ... if he didn't you wouldn't be seeing comments in articles announcing the firing that LeBron wasn't consulted about the decision. That's absolute and total BS.
They have built that team to be a plodding size team that is probably built to play against the Spurs and maybe Thunder but will get absolutely exposed against a team like the Warriors that can run circles around them.
Let's be honest that the Warriors also laid a beating down on Chicago 2 nights later ... it's what they are capable of when properly motivated.
The fundamental problem with Cleveland is that the identity is LeBron doing LeBron things but he's slowly morphing into not as dominant of a player as he used to be ... he's 31 and he's already played 1,129 career games and 44,756 minutes. Just to compare, Kobe's played a total of 56,471 minutes in his career. We're probably at the point where LeBron's going to maybe have this and at best 2 more high end seasons left in him to be able to win a championship.
If you consider Blatt in over his head, then you go find a coach that isn't in over his head. Instead you turn the roster over to Tyronn Lue with no head coaching experience. Firing Blatt and bringing in someone like Tom Thibadeoux maybe makes some sense given the reasons provided. But as is it just plays out that the players didn't like the coach and the players won when in reality it is their own play that is the fundamental problem.
Love's a talented offensive player that is neutered into a glorified role player role with LeBron. Instead of being able to flourish offensively he's limited and then that exposes the fact that he's not a great defensive player. They'd be better off with a far better defensive player that is limited offensively. To some degree it's the same thing with Kyrie Irving in that he's great with the ball in his hand offensively but he's not a tremendous defensive player. What you saw against Golden State was the continued exploitation of their terrible defensive players. What worked for them in the Finals against Golden State was playing high end defense at the expense of the offense ... but LeBron needed more help than what he was getting. What they need on their roster are a bunch of guys like Nic Batum, Trevor Ariza, etc. that have offensive abilities but have a calling card defensively. Instead, they've got too many plodding bigs that can only go hit the glass or guys that can hit shots on the perimeter but can't defend anybody. When compared to the Warriors and Spurs, it's not a championship caliber team. -
Love is way overrated. He put up great numbers in Minnesota, because there wasn't more than 5 guys on those teams that would make a 12 man roster anywhere else.
Making matters worse, Love is a horrible defender. What made the Heat teams so good, was the ability of Chalmers, James, Wade, and Bosh being up to play terrific defense. Irving can d sometimes, and then that leaves Lebron. This team is built to run, and without the defense creating opportunities, they're left to play a half court game, which isn't Irving's or James' strong suits.
BlattFS should know better though. With the money they're paying Love, making a "it's him or me" comment is just asking to be fired. Coach Pop is about the only coach in the game today that can make that comment and actually get a player shipped out. -
They aren't going to win the ring with or without him, but as Lebron seemed to dislike Blatt you may as well move on.
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NCAA championships require coaches. NBA championships require players. Players run the nba and their staffs, while the NCAA has legacy coaches who run the NCAA.
Blatt is just another body in the midst of nothing. Lebron lost not because of blatt or lebron, but because GS was better and had a healthy team. A healthy Cleveland is an interesting matchup which i still think GS wins in 7, but who knows. Either way, very few coaches in the nba ever make that big of a difference. GS is one easy example, but there is a very small sample size who do.
Blatt could literally be replaced by @swaye and and the only thing which would change is that the hookers would have mandatory tats. The game play and the results on the floor would be the same -
Gregg Popovich had a good chuckle at that.
It take great coaching and great players to win in the NBA. Superior coaches like Pop can win with very good players and very good coaches like Spoelstra can with with spectacular talent.
I can't explain the Clippers though. -
Overrated coach overrated playersPurpleThrobber said:Gregg Popovich had a good chuckle at that.
It take great coaching and great players to win in the NBA. Superior coaches like Pop can win with very good players and very good coaches like Spoelstra can with with spectacular talent.
I can't explain the Clippers though. -
Solid FREE PUB right hereFreeChavez said:NCAA championships require coaches. NBA championships require players. Players run the nba and their staffs, while the NCAA has legacy coaches who run the NCAA.
Blatt is just another body in the midst of nothing. Lebron lost not because of blatt or lebron, but because GS was better and had a healthy team. A healthy Cleveland is an interesting matchup which i still think GS wins in 7, but who knows. Either way, very few coaches in the nba ever make that big of a difference. GS is one easy example, but there is a very small sample size who do.
Blatt could literally be replaced by @swaye and and the only thing which would change is that the hookers would have mandatory tats. The game play and the results on the floor would be the same -
Lol. That it even came to that shows how big of loser Love must really be.allpurpleallgold said:Peter Vescey tweeted that Blatt told people it was him or Love.
I thought Blatt was good game to game in the playoffs last year. But Scott Brooks was also decent at that and he fucking sucked.
This is probably the last hope for Love. Like maybe Blatt just didn't know what he had and how to use him. Pretty weak but maybe. -
If you guys haven't figured out the Warriors vs Spurs is for the championship I can't help you.
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It's too bad the NBA doesn't follow the NCAA and slot the top four seeds instead of following geographic divisions and conferences. It would never work for TV ratings but the conference finals have generally been more epic battles than the finals themselves.RoadDawg55 said:If you guys haven't figured out the Warriors vs Spurs is for the championship I can't help you.
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Changing coaches in season seems dumb unless there's a huge problem or the team is just awful.
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Paul Westhead to Pat Riley comes to mind
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Magic disliked Westhead right? I guess if the star player really hates the coach, it makes sense on some level.RaceBannon said:Paul Westhead to Pat Riley comes to mind
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Bob Hopkins had the Sonics 5-17.
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He was fired 11 games into his 3rd season in LA after starting with a 7-4 record.RaceBannon said:Paul Westhead to Pat Riley comes to mind
He won the title in his first year.
Finished 2nd in the Pacific in his 2nd year and lost in the 1st round to 40-42 Houston Rockets team lead by Moses Malone.
Could argue that the firing was well deserved. -
It's going to be fun watching the media circus after every loss under Lue. Really bizarre situation to be in, if he doesn't win a championship in his first half season he's a failure.
Calling out the team for being out of shape is alarming. I don't care what pace you're running, if you're a pro NBA basketball player you shouldn't be out of shape in the middle of the season. These dudes dogged it on Blatt. -
could you expand on that?Tequilla said:Blatt's track record of success in Europe tells me that he knows how to coach ...
LeBron runs that organization ... if he didn't you wouldn't be seeing comments in articles announcing the firing that LeBron wasn't consulted about the decision. That's absolute and total BS.
They have built that team to be a plodding size team that is probably built to play against the Spurs and maybe Thunder but will get absolutely exposed against a team like the Warriors that can run circles around them.
Let's be honest that the Warriors also laid a beating down on Chicago 2 nights later ... it's what they are capable of when properly motivated.
The fundamental problem with Cleveland is that the identity is LeBron doing LeBron things but he's slowly morphing into not as dominant of a player as he used to be ... he's 31 and he's already played 1,129 career games and 44,756 minutes. Just to compare, Kobe's played a total of 56,471 minutes in his career. We're probably at the point where LeBron's going to maybe have this and at best 2 more high end seasons left in him to be able to win a championship.
If you consider Blatt in over his head, then you go find a coach that isn't in over his head. Instead you turn the roster over to Tyronn Lue with no head coaching experience. Firing Blatt and bringing in someone like Tom Thibadeoux maybe makes some sense given the reasons provided. But as is it just plays out that the players didn't like the coach and the players won when in reality it is their own play that is the fundamental problem.
Love's a talented offensive player that is neutered into a glorified role player role with LeBron. Instead of being able to flourish offensively he's limited and then that exposes the fact that he's not a great defensive player. They'd be better off with a far better defensive player that is limited offensively. To some degree it's the same thing with Kyrie Irving in that he's great with the ball in his hand offensively but he's not a tremendous defensive player. What you saw against Golden State was the continued exploitation of their terrible defensive players. What worked for them in the Finals against Golden State was playing high end defense at the expense of the offense ... but LeBron needed more help than what he was getting. What they need on their roster are a bunch of guys like Nic Batum, Trevor Ariza, etc. that have offensive abilities but have a calling card defensively. Instead, they've got too many plodding bigs that can only go hit the glass or guys that can hit shots on the perimeter but can't defend anybody. When compared to the Warriors and Spurs, it's not a championship caliber team. -
12 point home loss as an 11 point favorite ...DerekJohnson said:
could you expand on that?Tequilla said:Blatt's track record of success in Europe tells me that he knows how to coach ...
LeBron runs that organization ... if he didn't you wouldn't be seeing comments in articles announcing the firing that LeBron wasn't consulted about the decision. That's absolute and total BS.
They have built that team to be a plodding size team that is probably built to play against the Spurs and maybe Thunder but will get absolutely exposed against a team like the Warriors that can run circles around them.
Let's be honest that the Warriors also laid a beating down on Chicago 2 nights later ... it's what they are capable of when properly motivated.
The fundamental problem with Cleveland is that the identity is LeBron doing LeBron things but he's slowly morphing into not as dominant of a player as he used to be ... he's 31 and he's already played 1,129 career games and 44,756 minutes. Just to compare, Kobe's played a total of 56,471 minutes in his career. We're probably at the point where LeBron's going to maybe have this and at best 2 more high end seasons left in him to be able to win a championship.
If you consider Blatt in over his head, then you go find a coach that isn't in over his head. Instead you turn the roster over to Tyronn Lue with no head coaching experience. Firing Blatt and bringing in someone like Tom Thibadeoux maybe makes some sense given the reasons provided. But as is it just plays out that the players didn't like the coach and the players won when in reality it is their own play that is the fundamental problem.
Love's a talented offensive player that is neutered into a glorified role player role with LeBron. Instead of being able to flourish offensively he's limited and then that exposes the fact that he's not a great defensive player. They'd be better off with a far better defensive player that is limited offensively. To some degree it's the same thing with Kyrie Irving in that he's great with the ball in his hand offensively but he's not a tremendous defensive player. What you saw against Golden State was the continued exploitation of their terrible defensive players. What worked for them in the Finals against Golden State was playing high end defense at the expense of the offense ... but LeBron needed more help than what he was getting. What they need on their roster are a bunch of guys like Nic Batum, Trevor Ariza, etc. that have offensive abilities but have a calling card defensively. Instead, they've got too many plodding bigs that can only go hit the glass or guys that can hit shots on the perimeter but can't defend anybody. When compared to the Warriors and Spurs, it's not a championship caliber team.
Wish I was in Vegas last night ... easy money -
Someone will hire Blatt, just lipo.
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Hell, he's coached for 47 different national teamsdoogsinparadise said:Someone will hire Blatt, just lipo.
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And yet, nobody gives two shits about nba or the games until June when they actually start playing. Hasn't anyone learned from the spurs how to mail it in half the season?
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The Spurs mail it in to 55-60 wins every year?FreeChavez said:And yet, nobody gives two shits about nba or the games until June when they actually start playing. Hasn't anyone learned from the spurs how to mail it in half the season?
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They sit their players regularly. They don't try for 65 wins which they could get just about any season. They willingly give up 5-10 games a year in order to be ready for the playoffs. The nba regular season is a jokeRoadDawg55 said:
The Spurs mail it in to 55-60 wins every year?FreeChavez said:And yet, nobody gives two shits about nba or the games until June when they actually start playing. Hasn't anyone learned from the spurs how to mail it in half the season?
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They will move Love at the deadline if they can get a 3-way deal.allpurpleallgold said:Peter Vescey tweeted that Blatt told people it was him or Love.
I thought Blatt was good game to game in the playoffs last year. But Scott Brooks was also decent at that and he fucking sucked.
This is probably the last hope for Love. Like maybe Blatt just didn't know what he had and how to use him. Pretty weak but maybe. -
salemcoog said:
They will move Love at the deadline ifallpurpleallgold said:Peter Vescey tweeted that Blatt told people it was him or Love.
I thought Blatt was good game to game in the playoffs last year. But Scott Brooks was also decent at that and he fucking sucked.
This is probably the last hope for Love. Like maybe Blatt just didn't know what he had and how to use him. Pretty weak but maybe.theyLeBron can get a 3-waydeal. -
Nope. Everything is great because they beat the Spurs in Januarysalemcoog said:
They will move Love at the deadline if they can get a 3-way deal.allpurpleallgold said:Peter Vescey tweeted that Blatt told people it was him or Love.
I thought Blatt was good game to game in the playoffs last year. But Scott Brooks was also decent at that and he fucking sucked.
This is probably the last hope for Love. Like maybe Blatt just didn't know what he had and how to use him. Pretty weak but maybe.
