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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Baseman said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Baseman said:

    I like the current defensive commits - assuming they all sign and qualify. The recruits on the offensive side of the ball appear weak. No?

    And what's the problem?
    7-6
    4-5
    I guess I missed the point were this years defensive recruiting affects last years record
    No specific point - just wondering how this team ever climbs out of perpetual mediocrity.

    On paper, this year's class looks like

    Defense: 10+ wins
    Offense: 5 wins
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    edited January 2016
    devildawg said:

    Dissly can play? Where? The kid got passed by and now splitting time at TE going into his JR. year

    Good chance he never starts at UW

    Ha. I should have said he can play some. I just meant that by not being buried in the depth his first two years he exceeded expectations.

    My point, which you clearly missed, is that even the "extreme reaches" on the defensive side have been shown to be guys with some real ability. Not so on offense.

    Clearly the defensive recruiting has been far better than on the offensive side of the ball.

    But in terms of position groups, only WR stands out on the downside.

    QB: B+
    RB: B+
    OL: B-
    TE: C-
    WR: F

    It all blends to like a C overall, which is nowhere near the defensive side of the ball. Nor is it close to good enough.

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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    @AIRWOLF: TE will never get above a C when we only target them 2-3x a game. We chronically under-use them. They disappeared altogether under Willingham, and haven't been properly used ever since. Even ASJ was chronically underutilized.
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    AIRWOLF said:

    devildawg said:

    Dissly can play? Where? The kid got passed by and now splitting time at TE going into his JR. year

    Good chance he never starts at UW

    Ha. I should have said he can play some. I just meant that by not being buried in the depth his first two years he exceeded expectations.

    My point, which you clearly missed, is that even the "extreme reaches" on the defensive side have been shown to be guys with some real ability. Not so on offense.

    Clearly the defensive recruiting has been far better than on the offensive side of the ball.

    But in terms of position groups, only WR stands out on the downside.

    QB: B
    RB: B+
    OL: C-
    TE: C-
    WR: F

    It all blends to like a C overall, which is nowhere near the defensive side of the ball. Nor is it close to good enough.

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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    [Deleted User] said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Mcgrew is awesome, so is Wattenberg, I like Gadd.... The rest, yeah.

    this gives me life
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    DJ gave you death
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    TurdBuffer said:

    @AIRWOLF: TE will never get above a C when we only target them 2-3x a game. We chronically under-use them. They disappeared altogether under Willingham, and haven't been properly used ever since. Even ASJ was chronically underutilized.

    Then apparently everyone chronically underutilized the TE.

    ASJ led the PAC in receptions for a TE in 2011, led the nation 2012, 2nd in PAC 2013 despite being a lazy POS.

    Perkins led the PAC in receiving yards for a TE this year while Daniels was 6th.
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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    FremontTroll said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    @AIRWOLF: TE will never get above a C when we only target them 2-3x a game. We chronically under-use them. They disappeared altogether under Willingham, and haven't been properly used ever since. Even ASJ was chronically underutilized.

    Then apparently everyone chronically underutilized the TE.

    ASJ led the PAC in receptions for a TE in 2011, led the nation 2012, 2nd in PAC 2013 despite being a lazy POS.

    Perkins led the PAC in receiving yards for a TE this year while Daniels was 6th.
    Yeah you can't say we underutilize the TE when the best one in the nation (OJ Howard) had less than 400 yards receiving and 0 TDs before the title game. He basically won Bama that game when they got him the ball.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    NEsnake12 said:

    FremontTroll said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    @AIRWOLF: TE will never get above a C when we only target them 2-3x a game. We chronically under-use them. They disappeared altogether under Willingham, and haven't been properly used ever since. Even ASJ was chronically underutilized.

    Then apparently everyone chronically underutilized the TE.

    ASJ led the PAC in receptions for a TE in 2011, led the nation 2012, 2nd in PAC 2013 despite being a lazy POS.

    Perkins led the PAC in receiving yards for a TE this year while Daniels was 6th.
    Yeah you can't say we underutilize the TE when the best one in the nation (OJ Howard) had less than 400 yards receiving and 0 TDs before the title game. He basically won Bama that game when they got him the ball.
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