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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Baseman said:

    Fucking bullshit. In what world are we 12th?

    This crap is so stupid.

    I seriously applaud the attempt to get more sophisticated metrics of football, but fucking come on.

    12 sounds about right. Per Aubs latest power ranking Stanford and UW are the top teams in the Pac12 and it's not even close.
    Quite frankly, our record wasn't indicative of how good we? really were this season.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232
    Wins and losses matter.

    But at the same time, it's also not impossible to ignore the fact that we were an extremely young team on offense this year and really as a team with very few experienced playmakers when it came to making plays in tight spots.

    What you hope you see out of this team going forward is that they learn from some of their mistakes in close games this year about the importance of every single play, being smart about avoiding bad penalties, the importance of protecting the football, etc. There was improvement in these areas throughout the year.

    Most smart people said before the year that we'd be much better the back half of the year compared to the front and that there'd be games that we'd lose in the front half that we'd never lose as the season progressed. That happened. Nothing about this season was particularly surprising to me.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    These stats are very useful for evaluating the potential of a team. What they don't account for is the intangible ability to win close games, or "clutchness", for lack of a better term, which is of course critical in a sport like college football where anything more than one loss effectively eliminates you from national championship contention.

    The S&P numbers more or less mirror what any rational fan could see this year; our team was good enough to match up with anyone on our schedule, we just fucked ourselves consistently and lost too many games because of it. Folks like Auburndoog are adamant that this is 100% due to youth, and that improvement in the "clutchness" department will be linear as our players gain experience. Of course he completely ignores the possibility that our lack of "clutchness" stems from the coaching staff, and that this problem will not fade away with time. Next year will answer that question. A single-digit win season will mean our coaches have failed to develop a roster that has that intangible ability.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    These stats are very useful for evaluating the potential of a team. What they don't account for is the intangible ability to win close games, or "clutchness", for lack of a better term, which is of course critical in a sport like college football where anything more than one loss effectively eliminates you from national championship contention.

    The S&P numbers more or less mirror what any rational fan could see this year; our team was good enough to match up with anyone on our schedule, we just fucked ourselves consistently and lost too many games because of it. Folks like Auburndoog are adamant that this is 100% due to youth, and that improvement in the "clutchness" department will be linear as our players gain experience. Of course he completely ignores the possibility that our lack of "clutchness" stems from the coaching staff, and that this problem will not fade away with time. Next year will answer that question. A single-digit win season will mean our coaches have failed to develop a roster that has that intangible ability.

    This is a very good post that probably should be pinned as a response for people like @ThomasFremont that will pop off for the next 9+ months about something that can't be determined one way or another until next season.