Reading the Twatter Leaves, David Long Edition
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Academis.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
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Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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Michigan is Minnesota?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even. -
Gladstone said:
...Elite verdict? No.
Michigan is #1 in all-time wins and #2 in all-time winning percentage. Their claim to 11 national championships is stronger than UW's claim to 2. They've even won one during current players' lifetimes.
If Michigan's not elite, ain't nobody elite. -
I tried that line of reasoning already, the bored was displeased with my offering.TTJ said:Gladstone said:...Elite verdict? No.
Michigan is #1 in all-time wins and #2 in all-time winning percentage. Their claim to 11 national championships is stronger than UW's claim to 2. They've even won one during current players' lifetimes.
If Michigan's not elite, ain't nobody elite. -
J gonna J.
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This thread sucks
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Losing record in the Rose Bowl. 9 of 11 championships were in the pre-AP era. Fuck off. They ain't elite.
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Thanks for readingbananasnblondes said:This thread sucks
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Miami is more elite than Michigan
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TTJ said:Gladstone said:
...Elite verdict? No.
Michigan is #1 in all-time wins and #2 in all-time winning percentage. Their claim to 11 national championships is stronger than UW's claim to 2. They've even won one during current players' lifetimes.
If Michigan's not elite, ain't nobody other than Bama, USC, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma elite. -
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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Ho. Lee. Fuck.FremontTroll said:...If Michigan's not elite, ain't nobody other than Bama, USC, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma elite...
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Four national championships since 1960 is tied for 5th most with OU and Notre Dame. Obviously Nebraska will never be Nebraska again and Miami was defined by being counter to the establishment.TTJ said:
Ho. Lee. Fuck.FremontTroll said:...If Michigan's not elite, ain't nobody other than Bama, USC, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma elite...
So its USC, Bama, OU, Texas and Ohio State as the biggest of the Big Ten midgets.
Not to mention brand value, market share, etc. -
Hurtful Ballbag POTW.BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even. -
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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answering a question with another question.BallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
How fitting. -
uh what? shut upBallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even. -
ASNWRE TEH FUKCIG QETSUOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11BallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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I axed you a question first.PurpleJ said:
ASNWRE TEH FUKCIG QETSUOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11BallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
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I'll give you a hint. It was before I was born.BallSacked said:
I axed you a question first.PurpleJ said:
ASNWRE TEH FUKCIG QETSUOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11BallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even. -
What was? When Michigan last went Owen 12 UCLA or when UW last beat UCLA on the road?PurpleJ said:
I'll give you a hint. It was before I was born.BallSacked said:
I axed you a question first.PurpleJ said:
ASNWRE TEH FUKCIG QETSUOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11BallSacked said:
When was the last time UW beat UCLA in the rosebowl?PurpleJ said:
When was the last time UCLA won a Rose Bowl?BallSacked said:
How many Owen12s and Juan11s does Michigan have?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even.
Use your words.
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I guess ballbag recovered his sassiness since losing to USC
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I'd be salty too if our last Rose Bowl win was in the 80s. Talk about a loser program. All that local talent and nothing but a string of soft candy ass Pac teams and being USC's bitch, even when USC sucks. Great campus, though. I'm sure the kids enjoy their college experience and basketball season.
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I'm still living in the 90's! UW goes 0-12?whatshouldicareabout said:
Michigan is Minnesota?PurpleJ said:
Football.dnc said:
In what?PurpleJ said:
Disagree. We're dead even historically.dnc said:
Voted up for overall poast, they're a clear step above us(?) though.PurpleJ said:People forget that the AP didn't start picking a national champ until 1936. Most of Michigan's titles were before that. Michigan has only won the AP poll twice since then, 1997 and 1948. They split a title in 1947. They aren't elite and never have been. B level like us, but never top tier A level. Losing record in the Rose Bowl, as well. They are closer to Princeton and Yale territory, but they've actually had recent success.
Let's compare.
UW: 1 natty in AP era (could claim more)
Michigan: 2 natty in AP era
Rose Bowels
UW: 7-6-1
Michigan: 8-12
In the big picture we are very even. Michigan gets an edge due to not having 0-12, and having more recent success, but in terms of big wins we are pretty even. -
Quick, whistle Texas's fight song.FremontTroll said:Not to mention brand value, market share, etc.
I thought not. -
Bump for @YellowSnow @RaceBannonGladstone said:DNC is owning this thread.
Michigan has a fine program that is noted, in particular, for coughing up hairballs in big games. Let's review the record of their greatest coach and christ figure, Bo Schembechler --
1969: Michigan wins the Big 10 but then loses the Rose Bowl to USC 10-3
1970: Michigan is 9-0 heading into Ohio State but comes up short 20-9
1971: Michigan is 11-0 and facing heavy underdog Stanford in the Rose Bowl: 13-12 Stanford
1972: 10-0 heading into OSU: 14-11 Buckeyes
1973: 10-0 and Michigan has Ohio State at home: 10-10 tie and the conference athletic directors vote to send the Buckeyes to the Rose Bowl
1974: 10-0 heading into Columbus: 12-10 Buckeyes
1975: 8-0-2 and have OSU at home: 21-14 OSU. But good news, the Big 10 now allows other Big 10 teams to go to a bowl. 14-6 Oklahoma over Michigan in the Orange Bowl
1976: Inexplicable 16-14 loss to Purdue, but Michigan finally gets by Ohio State and goes to the Rose Bowl. Oh goody: 14-6 USC
1977: Another dumb conference loss, this one 16-0 to Minnesota. But they beat the Buckeyes and they're back in the Rose Bowl and a huge favorite over 7-4 Washington, so finally Michigan's going to win the Rose Bowl. Oops: 27-20 Washington
1978: This time the conference gag is against MSU but the Wolves beat the Bucks again and are back in the Rose Bowl. Same song, 18th verse: 17-10 USC
1979: 8-3 Michigan finally gets an easy bowl opponent, UNC in the Gator Bowl. Thanks for playing Bo: 17-15 UNC.
1980: Finally Michigan wins a Rose Bowl, defeating our DAWGS. Think this is their shot at winning a NC? ND kicks a miracle 61 yard FG to defeat them in week 2. The next week the stunned Wolves also lose to South Carolina, removing them from NC consideration permanently.
1981: Bo finally beats ND for the first time (Faust's 5-6 team) and beats UCLA in a bowl game. The bad news? It's the fucking Bluebonnet Bowl.
1982: Bo somehow makes it to the Rose Bowl at 8-3 and plays UCLA. UCLA wins of course, 24-14.
1983: Good news: ND's off the schedule for Bo. Bad news, they have to play Washington again and lose 27-25. 9-2 Michigan gets invited to the Sugar Bowl where they lose to Auburn 9-7. Bo has now managed to lose 3 of the then-Big 4 bowls.
1984: Michigan flops around to a 6-5 record and then makes history as the weakest opponent ever in a bowl game for a national championship team as BYU gets by them 24-17 to claim the NC even though BYU would've been a 2-touchdown underdog to Oklahoma, Nebraska or Washington.
1985: A conference loss to Iowa and a tie with Illinois keeps UM out of the Rose Bowl and NC consideration. UM does beat Nebraska in the Fiesta Bowl.
1986: UM somehow loses to 3-9 Minnesota in Ann Arbor but still makes it to the Rose Bowl where the Wolves lose 22-15 to ASU. ASU is now the 5th Pac 8 or 10 team to beat Bo's teams in the Rose Bowl.
1987: Lou Holtz drills UM 26-7 in Ann Arbor, visibly laughing during the post-game handshake when he sees Bo crying. Michigan suffers 3 more losses to go 8-4.
1988: UM finally wins a Rose Bowl over USC, but is not considered for the NC due to a missed chip shot field goal against ND.
1989: Bo chokes to ND again, but runs the table at 10-1 before getting blown out by USC.
And thus concludes Bo's career.
Elite verdict? No.
Don't even joke about Michigan and Rushmore. -
Ballsacked sighting!
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Coker dialed in as always.
Don't forget this is when Eklund was PROMISING everyone Long was going to UW.
