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Husky Fan Podcast: Post STD U, Pre OSU
HeretoBeatmyChest
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NYBE and I only read the title
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We get a rematch with ASU. Sweet. Bet we can lose by 30 this time.
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Podcast enthusiasm and attitude reflected the general sentiment regarding the state of the Husky program.
Thanks for the show.
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Great work, gentlemen. I'm sure it's not easy to do with the state of our program. @RoadDawg55 gets 100 bonus points for the "Little Giants" reference.
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The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.
Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....
UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6
HUH?
UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.
With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.
Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6 -
Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.Houhusky said:The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.
Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....
UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6
HUH?
UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.
With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.
Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6
Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.
My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.
Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8. -
We should be 6-4 right now ... it's very little disappointing to see the continual failure of closing out games in the 4th quarter. It is still a very young and mentally weak team.
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Fuck I cant believe Im about to dive into retard metrics bullshit, but as a Husky fan I must admit I am a masochist, but, fuck you for thinking that metrics can predict the possible W/L for a given team separate from coaching ability or skill.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.Houhusky said:The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.
Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....
UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6
HUH?
UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.
With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.
Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6
Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.
My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.
Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
@TheMetrics metrics ( @TheChart ?) show:
offensive SRS (out of 128 teams):
103: Army -4.89
104: Georgia State -5.01
105: Washington -5.25
106: Old Dominion -5.99
107: Florida International -6.15
If UW just had a mediocre offense, IDK pick a random team like MOTHERFUCKING MINNESOTA with an offensive SRS of -0.01
UW would have a total SRS of fucking 8th in the country.
fuck off if you dont think that this team has enough talent to produce an offense equivalent with teams like South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi
and as an aside, players look like fucking shit when they are put in a shit fucking scheme with shit fucking coaching. -
The offense should be better but no one in their right mind thought it would be average this year. Too much youth and inexperience at key spots and a lack of talent at key spots also. The Ross injury hurt a lot also. (And don't bring up the defense which although relatively young has a lot more experience). It takes some time for guys like Browning, Gaskin, Adams, McGary, Renfro to develop into good players. Gaskin is already there but the others may not follow until next season. The offense has started to improve and the realistic hope was it would improve enough to make a late season run. It was there to be had but didn't come to fruition. Thats where the extra win or two comes in that the stats say we definitely could have.Houhusky said:
Fuck I cant believe Im about to dive into retard metrics bullshit, but as a Husky fan I must admit I am a masochist, but, fuck you for thinking that metrics can predict the possible W/L for a given team separate from coaching ability or skill.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.Houhusky said:The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.
Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....
UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6
HUH?
UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.
With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.
Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6
Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.
My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.
Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
@TheMetrics metrics ( @TheChart ?) show:
offensive SRS (out of 128 teams):
103: Army -4.89
104: Georgia State -5.01
105: Washington -5.25
106: Old Dominion -5.99
107: Florida International -6.15
If UW just had a mediocre offense, IDK pick a random team like MOTHERFUCKING MINNESOTA with an offensive SRS of -0.01
UW would have a total SRS of fucking 8th in the country.
fuck off if you dont think that this team has enough talent to produce an offense equivalent with teams like South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi
and as an aside, players look like fucking shit when they are put in a shit fucking scheme with shit fucking coaching.
BTW, if you polled neutral observers or fans of other schools, how many more wins would they say UW should have? Probably 1 maybe 2. No one from that group is saying UW could have been or should have been 10-3. Most fans have a hard time evaluating their team and program accurately and fairly. ASU fans think they should be 7-3 or 8-2 and not 5-5. Their SRS and efficiency stats are pretty shitty. Oregon is the one game they should have won that would put them at 6-4.
I guess you have to get nasty rather than admit that I'm right. -
This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.Houhusky said:The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.
Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....
UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6
HUH?
UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.
With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.
Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6
Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.
My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.
Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
