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Husky Fan Podcast: Post STD U, Pre OSU

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  • Sundevil76
    Sundevil76 Member Posts: 109

    Houhusky said:

    The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

    Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

    UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

    HUH?

    UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

    With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

    Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

    Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

    Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

    My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

    Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
    This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. Fuck your efficiency crap, you are not better than the score.We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out. Just prove you can beat the Cougs at home will work on the U of Eh.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,062 Founders Club

    Houhusky said:

    The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

    Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

    UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

    HUH?

    UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

    With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

    Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

    Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

    Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

    My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

    Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
    This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,062 Founders Club

    Houhusky said:

    The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

    Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

    UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

    HUH?

    UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

    With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

    Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

    Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

    Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

    My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

    Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.
    This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.
  • Sundevil76
    Sundevil76 Member Posts: 109
    edited November 2015
    To get the perspective on your WR's; and I was there and did not know what the announcers said, ASU's field side safety was hurt and never played then Simone, the other safety, went out injured early. Then our Spur Linebacker, that calls the plays on the line, also got hurt in the first quarter. Graham said it was chaos with having to use 2nd and 3rd string guys. So, you have a secondary that already had issues trying to cover with players with little to no game exposure, and the Dawgs still could not catch? Road Kill said if Baker played you win. You have no excuse. Petersen had a lot of factors in his favor and you still lost. Coaching is the failure here, not talent. Throw out the damn stats and deal with it. Fuck your comments on efficiency.
  • Sundevil76
    Sundevil76 Member Posts: 109
    edited November 2015
    Looking forward to the Apple Cup. Looks like a good matchup for Washington.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Best intro yet. Already worth
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,401
    Melt-down, rejection, and sexual tension at 10:00, then reconciliation and requited hugs at 19:00.......nice rendition to mirror our season sentiments and the way we'll all feel after a huge OSU victory.

    So Browning is averaging 7.7 yards per pass attempt now. Rushing avg is 4-5.5 yards per carry in Pac play.

    I hate these WRs and Brent Pease. The old WRs are getting worse.

    The OL board is pretty quiet right now, which is a +, IMO.

    Leach is still a POS HC. Might be a champion in the Cuogs eyes for making a bowl game this year, even with the Portland State loss, but he'll easily go 2-10 to 3-9 next year. I'd take him as OC in a second though.

    OSU's Anderson will be fired 7-9 games into his 3rd season. I wasn't impressed with that hire by OSU - he's unproven IMO and has the worst talent in the Pac. Any team that loses to OSU in the next 3-4 years is pure shit.

    UW licks Beaver 41-14.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    priapism said:

    Melt-down, rejection, and sexual tension at 10:00, then reconciliation and requited hugs at 19:00.......nice rendition to mirror our season sentiments and the way we'll all feel after a huge OSU victory.

    So Browning is averaging 7.7 yards per pass attempt now. Rushing avg is 4-5.5 yards per carry in Pac play.

    I hate these WRs and Brent Pease. The old WRs are getting worse.

    The OL board is pretty quiet right now, which is a +, IMO.

    Leach is still a POS HC. Might be a champion in the Cuogs eyes for making a bowl game this year, even with the Portland State loss, but he'll easily go 2-10 to 3-9 next year. I'd take him as OC in a second though.

    OSU's Anderson will be fired 7-9 games into his 3rd season. I wasn't impressed with that hire by OSU - he's unproven IMO and has the worst talent in the Pac. Any team that loses to OSU in the next 3-4 years is pure shit.

    UW licks Beaver 41-14.

    The funny thing is 7.7ypa is actually a solid number for Browning, especially as a true freshmen.

    The issue has been what they've been putting on his plate and some of the random play generator shit they pull out at times.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited November 2015
    @HeretoBeatmyChest

    You cant actually believe that SRS is a predictor of a teams actual ability and not just a measure of its past performance?

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    You just cant expect to have an offensive SRS about as good as South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi. Its just hard, its just so hard.