Husky Fan Podcast: Post STD U, Pre OSU

HeretoBeatmyChest

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LoneStarDawg

NYBE and I only read the title

Swaye

We get a rematch with ASU. Sweet. Bet we can lose by 30 this time.

SpoonieLuv

Podcast enthusiasm and attitude reflected the general sentiment regarding the state of the Husky program.

Thanks for the show.

HuskyInAZ

Great work, gentlemen. I'm sure it's not easy to do with the state of our program. @RoadDawg55 gets 100 bonus points for the "Little Giants" reference.

Houhusky

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

HeretoBeatmyChest

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

Tequilla

We should be 6-4 right now ... it's very little disappointing to see the continual failure of closing out games in the 4th quarter. It is still a very young and mentally weak team.

Houhusky

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

Fuck I cant believe Im about to dive into retard metrics bullshit, but as a Husky fan I must admit I am a masochist, but, fuck you for thinking that metrics can predict the possible W/L for a given team separate from coaching ability or skill.

@TheMetrics metrics ( @TheChart ?) show:

offensive SRS (out of 128 teams):

103: Army -4.89
104: Georgia State -5.01
105: Washington -5.25
106: Old Dominion -5.99
107: Florida International -6.15

If UW just had a mediocre offense, IDK pick a random team like MOTHERFUCKING MINNESOTA with an offensive SRS of -0.01

UW would have a total SRS of fucking 8th in the country.

fuck off if you dont think that this team has enough talent to produce an offense equivalent with teams like South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi

and as an aside, players look like fucking shit when they are put in a shit fucking scheme with shit fucking coaching.

HeretoBeatmyChest

Houhusky said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

Fuck I cant believe Im about to dive into retard metrics bullshit, but as a Husky fan I must admit I am a masochist, but, fuck you for thinking that metrics can predict the possible W/L for a given team separate from coaching ability or skill.

@TheMetrics metrics ( @TheChart ?) show:

offensive SRS (out of 128 teams):

103: Army -4.89
104: Georgia State -5.01
105: Washington -5.25
106: Old Dominion -5.99
107: Florida International -6.15

If UW just had a mediocre offense, IDK pick a random team like MOTHERFUCKING MINNESOTA with an offensive SRS of -0.01

UW would have a total SRS of fucking 8th in the country.

fuck off if you dont think that this team has enough talent to produce an offense equivalent with teams like South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi

and as an aside, players look like fucking shit when they are put in a shit fucking scheme with shit fucking coaching.

The offense should be better but no one in their right mind thought it would be average this year. Too much youth and inexperience at key spots and a lack of talent at key spots also. The Ross injury hurt a lot also. (And don't bring up the defense which although relatively young has a lot more experience). It takes some time for guys like Browning, Gaskin, Adams, McGary, Renfro to develop into good players. Gaskin is already there but the others may not follow until next season. The offense has started to improve and the realistic hope was it would improve enough to make a late season run. It was there to be had but didn't come to fruition. Thats where the extra win or two comes in that the stats say we definitely could have.

BTW, if you polled neutral observers or fans of other schools, how many more wins would they say UW should have? Probably 1 maybe 2. No one from that group is saying UW could have been or should have been 10-3. Most fans have a hard time evaluating their team and program accurately and fairly. ASU fans think they should be 7-3 or 8-2 and not 5-5. Their SRS and efficiency stats are pretty shitty. Oregon is the one game they should have won that would put them at 6-4.

I guess you have to get nasty rather than admit that I'm right.

Sundevil76

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.

Sundevil76

Sundevil76 said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. Fuck your efficiency crap, you are not better than the score.We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out. Just prove you can beat the Cougs at home will work on the U of Eh.

RaceBannon

Sundevil76 said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.

RaceBannon

Sundevil76 said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Houhusky said:

The sexual tension between @HeretoBeatmyChest and little jimmy @jecornel near the start was amusing. @HeretoBeatmyChest just needs more time to hate fuck @jecornel while he giggles.

Also I didnt understand @HeretoBeatmyChest 's circular logic about SRS and wins....

UW is 4-6 because our SRS is in the mid 40s, UW's SRS is in the mid 40's because UW is 4-6

HUH?

UW very clearly has the talent to be a 2-3 loss team right now.

With a solid coach UW is 7-3 with 2 mostly guaranteed wins left on the schedule plus a bowl game.

Good coaching = 10-3 not an outside shot at 7-6

Talent to be a 2-3 loss team when playing what SRS has as the 17th toughest schedule? That would basically put us as a top 15/top 20 team. USC is 7-3, played the 11th toughest schedule and is #15 in SRS. So we have the talent to be there? Who are the all conference guys on offense? Perkins will make 2nd team but no one else (aside from Gaskin) will even sniff honorable mention. Sorry but your statements are way way off.

Roadie is right, SRS is affected by win/losses but there isn't a huge penalty for close losses. Therefore you aren't as penalized for having a close loss versus a blowout loss.

My point is the metrics and advanced stats like Football Outsiders shit gives us a lot more data to judge the season and how good we are and what our W/L should be. The efficiency ratings from ESPN and the two from FO have us 25, 29 and 40. With our efficiency ratings being better than our computer ratings, there is a strong case we should be a bit better than we are. The efficiency ratings are one way to look at the underlying strength of a team on offense, defense and special teams.

Had we beat Utah and ASU, our SRS would probably be 25-30 while our efficiency ratings would likely be slightly better than where they are now but still not in the top 25. Last year Texas A&M and Oklahoma went 8-5, played reasonably tough schedules and finished 28, 29 in SRS. Judging from our advanced stats and schedule, that appears to be the reasonable best case scenario or maximum for this team this season. Remember Boise, Cal, Oregon and Utah all had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. Our win probability was very low throughout those games. Given the advanced stats and odds of winning a close game in the 4th quarter, we perhaps should have won one of those plus ASU. OSU would be win 7 and WSU or a bowl game would be #8.

This is sooo much BS? ASU had 200 more yards than Oregon. They only got to the overtime with a chip shot missed field goal by a normally automatic Gonzales, a kickoff return, and two seriously bad calls by a PAC 12 ref that was suspended last week for bad calls against ASU TWO weeks in a row! They are still losses. The Devils were winning in the third quarter against Oregon, Washington State, and Utah but all that counts is the final score. Hell, if we beat the Yoots, Cougs, and Ducks ASU would be ranked pretty high since UCLA lost to us at home. We are both near the botton of the conference and need to win out.

Sundevil76

To get the perspective on your WR's; and I was there and did not know what the announcers said, ASU's field side safety was hurt and never played then Simone, the other safety, went out injured early. Then our Spur Linebacker, that calls the plays on the line, also got hurt in the first quarter. Graham said it was chaos with having to use 2nd and 3rd string guys. So, you have a secondary that already had issues trying to cover with players with little to no game exposure, and the Dawgs still could not catch? Road Kill said if Baker played you win. You have no excuse. Petersen had a lot of factors in his favor and you still lost. Coaching is the failure here, not talent. Throw out the damn stats and deal with it. Fuck your comments on efficiency.

Sundevil76

Looking forward to the Apple Cup. Looks like a good matchup for Washington.

UWerentThereMan

Best intro yet. Already worth

priapism

Melt-down, rejection, and sexual tension at 10:00, then reconciliation and requited hugs at 19:00.......nice rendition to mirror our season sentiments and the way we'll all feel after a huge OSU victory.

So Browning is averaging 7.7 yards per pass attempt now. Rushing avg is 4-5.5 yards per carry in Pac play.

I hate these WRs and Brent Pease. The old WRs are getting worse.

The OL board is pretty quiet right now, which is a +, IMO.

Leach is still a POS HC. Might be a champion in the Cuogs eyes for making a bowl game this year, even with the Portland State loss, but he'll easily go 2-10 to 3-9 next year. I'd take him as OC in a second though.

OSU's Anderson will be fired 7-9 games into his 3rd season. I wasn't impressed with that hire by OSU - he's unproven IMO and has the worst talent in the Pac. Any team that loses to OSU in the next 3-4 years is pure shit.

UW licks Beaver 41-14.

CokeGreaterThanPepsi

priapism said:

Melt-down, rejection, and sexual tension at 10:00, then reconciliation and requited hugs at 19:00.......nice rendition to mirror our season sentiments and the way we'll all feel after a huge OSU victory.

So Browning is averaging 7.7 yards per pass attempt now. Rushing avg is 4-5.5 yards per carry in Pac play.

I hate these WRs and Brent Pease. The old WRs are getting worse.

The OL board is pretty quiet right now, which is a +, IMO.

Leach is still a POS HC. Might be a champion in the Cuogs eyes for making a bowl game this year, even with the Portland State loss, but he'll easily go 2-10 to 3-9 next year. I'd take him as OC in a second though.

OSU's Anderson will be fired 7-9 games into his 3rd season. I wasn't impressed with that hire by OSU - he's unproven IMO and has the worst talent in the Pac. Any team that loses to OSU in the next 3-4 years is pure shit.

UW licks Beaver 41-14.

The funny thing is 7.7ypa is actually a solid number for Browning, especially as a true freshmen.

The issue has been what they've been putting on his plate and some of the random play generator shit they pull out at times.

GrundleStiltzkin

Houhusky

@HeretoBeatmyChest

You cant actually believe that SRS is a predictor of a teams actual ability and not just a measure of its past performance?



You just cant expect to have an offensive SRS about as good as South Florida, Buffalo, Iowa State, Minnesota, Appalachian State, Marshal, Central Michigan, Rutgers, or Southern Mississippi. Its just hard, its just so hard.