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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    You guys can dismiss all of the above as more yearafternextwillbegreat rhetoric if you want. But folks who've been around more than a year or two will know that was never my message during prior coaching tenures. It's not Peterman's fault his predecessors sucked, nor that they left him a shit sandwich on offense.

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,540 Swaye's Wigwam
    TTJ said:

    I see everything you guys are describing. Can't really disagree with any of it. And yet, Peterman's BSU teams ran the shit out of the ball. My sense is that his offensive scheme and playcalling at UW are being heavily influenced by some pretty glaring personnel deficits, both in terms of talent and experience. Going ultra-conservative, and trusting your stout defense to keep you in games to the end, has given UW a puncher's chance in several games that could (should?) have been blowouts. Peterman's sideline demeanor tells me he doesn't like what they're doing on offense any more than we do. My guess is that the offense will look a lot different in a year or two.

    They also blew a lot of teams out at Boise State which leads to running the ball late.

    They ran the ball for balance, but the offense at Boise State was Kellen Moore picking apart the defense.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,027 Founders Club
    When Ty beat Boise the Broncs were great between the 20's but couldn't cash it in when reaching the red zone. A problem Air Raid has at WSU. A problem a lot of these shitty passing offenses have.

    WSU kicked 5 field goals against Stanford. One or two TDs and WSU is looking for a Norte Division title
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,027 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    You guys can dismiss all of the above as more yearafternextwillbegreat rhetoric if you want. But folks who've been around more than a year or two will know that was never my message during prior coaching tenures. It's not Peterman's fault his predecessors sucked, nor that they left him a shit sandwich on offense.

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    Petersen presents better than Sark or Ty. But the results have yet to catch up to the aura
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827

    TTJ said:

    I see everything you guys are describing. Can't really disagree with any of it. And yet, Peterman's BSU teams ran the shit out of the ball. My sense is that his offensive scheme and playcalling at UW are being heavily influenced by some pretty glaring personnel deficits, both in terms of talent and experience. Going ultra-conservative, and trusting your stout defense to keep you in games to the end, has given UW a puncher's chance in several games that could (should?) have been blowouts. Peterman's sideline demeanor tells me he doesn't like what they're doing on offense any more than we do. My guess is that the offense will look a lot different in a year or two.

    They also blew a lot of teams out at Boise State which leads to running the ball late.

    They ran the ball for balance, but the offense at Boise State was Kellen Moore picking apart the defense.
    I'm not just talking about the Kellen Moore years, during which BSU was balanced but still ran a lot. During the non-KM years, BSU ran a ton.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827

    I think things would be better if Petersen acknowledged problems on offense. He's always pointed out specifics on defense like tackling and player positions on defense. But when he talks about the offense it's basically a "our plays work" answer.

    Like "we need to be more stubborn in the running game?"
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    I think there's more to it than what you are describing @RoadDawg55 ... I'll try to take a deep dive into some numbers in the near future to try to get to the heart of it. There's some surface area stats that I'm fairly confident without looking would give conflicting results.

    Regardless, there needs to be a strong reconsideration of what's going on offensively in the offseason. The areas that have sucked there have been so fucktardedly bad that it actually is overshadowing some of the good things going on on offense.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,027 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    I think there's more to it than what you are describing @RoadDawg55 ... I'll try to take a deep dive into some numbers in the near future to try to get to the heart of it. There's some surface area stats that I'm fairly confident without looking would give conflicting results.

    Regardless, there needs to be a strong reconsideration of what's going on offensively in the offseason. The areas that have sucked there have been so fucktardedly bad that it actually is overshadowing some of the good things going on on offense.

    So you'll circle back and drill down?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,540 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2015
    Tequilla said:

    I think there's more to it than what you are describing @RoadDawg55 ... I'll try to take a deep dive into some numbers in the near future to try to get to the heart of it. There's some surface area stats that I'm fairly confident without looking would give conflicting results.

    Regardless, there needs to be a strong reconsideration of what's going on offensively in the offseason. The areas that have sucked there have been so fucktardedly bad that it actually is overshadowing some of the good things going on on offense.

    The run/pass ratio is actually even worse than the stats show because 95% of Browning's carries are sacks and scrambles on called pass plays.