Steph Curry
If he gets back to back MVP and titles it's going to be hard to argue for Lebron as the true #1.
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He just goes to show that the #1 skill in basketball is and always will be the ability to make shots.
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He's the most exciting but hes not the alpha
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Great insight as always.Tequilla said:He just goes to show that the #1 skill in basketball is and always will be the ability to make shots.
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He is until someone else knocks him off.RaceBannon said:He's the most exciting but hes not the alpha
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Warriors take the LOADED west then sweep the Heat. Enough said on that.
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He's not there to be knocked offdnc said:
He is until someone else knocks him off.RaceBannon said:He's the most exciting but hes not the alpha
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Watching him the other night vs. Memphis was insane. He made them look like the Washington Generals.
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That's what i'm saying. He's playing at an entirely different level right now. He may not be the Alpha yet, but the gap is closing quickly. Small stature aside, he might be the most dangerous player in the league.PurpleThrobber said:Watching him the other night vs. Memphis was insane. He made them look like the Washington Generals.
If you're captain of a pick up game you pick Lebron 1st, but the team that picks Curry will probably win. He's insane. -
I'm sorry but Curry in a real pick up game would get shut down by any great defender.
I don't mean this as a put down to Curry but the NBAs rules allow him to be great. All credit to him because everyone plays by the same rules. But if defenders could get into his body on the perimeter, like they would in a pick up game, he wouldn't be that good.
A couple years ago the Warriors played the Clippers in a playoff series. One of the games came down to a last shot by the Warriors. Chris Paul got all up in Currys jersey because he knew they wouldn't call a foul and Curry barely got a shot off. That would be every possession of a pick up game.
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First, you have no idea what would happen in a pickup game. Purely speculative. Second, so if people can foul then he isn't as dangerous? Really? Third, 2015 Curry > 2013 Curry, rather easily.allpurpleallgold said:I'm sorry but Curry in a real pick up game would get shut down by any great defender.
I don't mean this as a put down to Curry but the NBAs rules allow him to be great. All credit to him because everyone plays by the same rules. But if defenders could get into his body on the perimeter, like they would in a pick up game, he wouldn't be that good.
A couple years ago the Warriors played the Clippers in a playoff series. One of the games came down to a last shot by the Warriors. Chris Paul got all up in Currys jersey because he knew they wouldn't call a foul and Curry barely got a shot off. That would be every possession of a pick up game.
Chris Paul, for all his faults, can always get a decent shot. Curry can't. -
This isn't practice and neither is it a pickup game. I'd probably take Lebron over Curry because of his defensive versatility and size, but it's crazy to use those arguments to make that case, like no shit fouling some dude makes it harder for him to score, lmao man.
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I could go on a TL, DR rant about why he's a better player than others in the "behind LBJ" pecking order if you'd prefer ...doogsinparadise said:
Great insight as always.Tequilla said:He just goes to show that the #1 skill in basketball is and always will be the ability to make shots.
But I do stand behind the comment that when you hear people talk about attributes of players in HS, college, and even entering the NBA, people don't often talk about a player's ability to shoot or flat out score. There's a skill in that. Granted, you can be a great shooter/scorer and if you are outmatched physically the NBA will expose that. But at the same time, if you are a truly great shooter, you'll be successful at the NBA level one way or another. -
No question the game today isn't like it was 20-30 years ago where you could physically steer offensive players from a defensive standpoint. Likewise, offensive players aren't allowed to get physical with their defenders either. So citing physical play is an apples and oranges thing in my mind.
This fallacy that the game today is so soft is only because it is being compared against to the 90s when the physical play was at levels that are not consistent with the rules of the game and the league allowed to go way too far. If you go back and watch games from the 80s you'll often find that the number of touch fouls called were significantly greater than what is called today. The one thing that they did though during that time frame was at the end of games allowing bloodbaths to take place without taking over the game with the whistle (think early '81 Celtics vs Sixers Game 7 where the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter turned into a giant wrestling match).
Great players will be able to play against any kind of situation and come out the other side. You can't tell me guys in the past like Tiny Achribald or even a young Isaiah Thomas were physical beasts that excelled playing physical games in a time period where there was far more opportunities for bigger players to put a physical shot on smaller players with minimal repercussions (brawling was prevalent in the game in the 70s). Far more important to be mentally strong than physically strong if you're a guard in my mind anyway.
And BTW, the thing that will always translate with a shooter like Curry, Reggie Miller, etc. is the space that they create on the court. If you don't want to go out and guard them it doesn't matter how physical the game is. -
All this is true. However, the other thing that is much more lax in pickup games are dribbling rules. Curry has developed a sick handle, on the playground where he could carry all day long and team defense is unheard of he would be unstoppable. Especially when you consider his vision and passing skills and how lazy off ball playground defenders are. He wouldn't have to just sit outside and pop (SF)J's.allpurpleallgold said:I'm sorry but Curry in a real pick up game would get shut down by any great defender.
I don't mean this as a put down to Curry but the NBAs rules allow him to be great. All credit to him because everyone plays by the same rules. But if defenders could get into his body on the perimeter, like they would in a pick up game, he wouldn't be that good.
A couple years ago the Warriors played the Clippers in a playoff series. One of the games came down to a last shot by the Warriors. Chris Paul got all up in Currys jersey because he knew they wouldn't call a foul and Curry barely got a shot off. That would be every possession of a pick up game.
Chris Paul, for all his faults, can always get a decent shot. Curry can't.
LeBron would be the best player on the playground because he's a physical monster, but Curry would be a close second. -
We aren't talking street ball here.allpurpleallgold said:I'm sorry but Curry in a real pick up game would get shut down by any great defender.
I don't mean this as a put down to Curry but the NBAs rules allow him to be great. All credit to him because everyone plays by the same rules. But if defenders could get into his body on the perimeter, like they would in a pick up game, he wouldn't be that good.
A couple years ago the Warriors played the Clippers in a playoff series. One of the games came down to a last shot by the Warriors. Chris Paul got all up in Currys jersey because he knew they wouldn't call a foul and Curry barely got a shot off. That would be every possession of a pick up game.
Chris Paul, for all his faults, can always get a decent shot. Curry can't.
It will be fun to see Lebron lovers backpedal when Curry will have as many rings as Lebron this year in a third (or less) of the attempts.
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APAG likes hypotheticals.
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All Lebron fans do.MisterEm said:APAG likes hypotheticals.
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Curry wasn't even the Finals MVP
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Curry played within himself and took what the Cavs were giving them. Cavs chose to leave Iguadoloaa open all series and he delivered.RaceBannon said:Curry wasn't even the Finals MVP
I'm surprised you of all people would put so much stock in a media award. The real hardware was won on the floor by Curry, not Lebron. -
Doogles likes hypotheticalsDoogles said:
Curry played within himself and took what the Cavs were giving them. Cavs chose to leave Iguadoloaa open all series and he delivered.RaceBannon said:Curry wasn't even the Finals MVP
I'm surprised you of all people would put so much stock in a media award. The real hardware was won on the floor by Curry, not Lebron. -
He was far and away the most valuable Warrior in the finals, as my boy APAG was quick to poont out at the time.RaceBannon said:Curry wasn't even the Finals MVP
Subjective awards are for loosers. -
That was a begrudging upvote DNC.
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I take my APAG upvotes anyway I can get them.allpurpleallgold said:That was a begrudging upvote DNC.
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Not buying your comments on curry and pickup, but your last sentence....chris paul was the guy you really went with there? Anyhow, I think people are confusing their local noon ball YMCA league for a real pick up game of basketball that Curry would be playing in.allpurpleallgold said:I'm sorry but Curry in a real pick up game would get shut down by any great defender.
I don't mean this as a put down to Curry but the NBAs rules allow him to be great. All credit to him because everyone plays by the same rules. But if defenders could get into his body on the perimeter, like they would in a pick up game, he wouldn't be that good.
A couple years ago the Warriors played the Clippers in a playoff series. One of the games came down to a last shot by the Warriors. Chris Paul got all up in Currys jersey because he knew they wouldn't call a foul and Curry barely got a shot off. That would be every possession of a pick up game.
Chris Paul, for all his faults, can always get a decent shot. Curry can't.
If you're playing in a high end pick up game the rools will become as loose as hope solo, BUT that also means quite a few things in curry's favor. Ball spacing, lanes, guys moving are all apart of a real pickup game even if they aren't calling hand checks. Guys are rewarded for movement and conditioning. It's not an And1 mixtape or your local mormon establishment at 5am basketball. Screens, and I mean major screens can be set. Curry is one of the best conditioned guys in the nba and he gets to run off every illegal and ridiculously set screen he wants. He doesn't even need to get his own shot, but that's beside the point. If he wanted to get his own shot he'd certainly get locked up a time or two. It happens to every player, but right now curry has shown(and did most of last playoffs) that when given the ball he can break down players and get a shot off when needed. Dribbling rules(as dnc stated) are another very lax portion and we've all seen what curry has done to folks in nba games. His handle accompanied by his stroke allow him to open up the floor.
The comparison of the two really doesn't make sense as they are completely different players. Curry in a pick up game needs to make only 2 for every 3 buckets that lebron makes. I would take either one and if I had a strong defender on the team I'd rather have curry for pick up. 3's keep you on the floor in pickup games and we all know bron' can't shoot. Bron also would keep the pace maddening since he pounds the ball and demands it. Curry could bring it up or run off screens to keep fluidity. I could just see 4 guys watching bron in a pick up game hoping to touch the ball once every 3 possessions. -
Since we are talking street ball, I'd take Allen Iverson, since his crew would shoot LeBron AND Curry after the game if they didn't lose on purpose.
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