UW's Offensive Line: A Critical and Thoughtful Analysis
UW's Offensive Line: A Critical and Thoughtful Analysis
It’s no secret that the best way to win a football game is to control the line of scrimmage. Some out there claim that this topic has been beaten to death and claim miraculous development without anything other than a wink and a “trust me”. But Husky fans deserve critical thoughtful discussion of every issue surrounding UW football.
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Disagree.
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Good analysis. I liked that you abbreviated Standord and Arizona to Furd and Zona. Very efficient and saved me some time in an otherwise TL article. Thanks for doing that. Also, in the future, please post this type of article on www.hardcorehuskyoffensivelineman.com. Thanks.
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The domain "www.hardcorehuskyoffensivelineman.com" was already reserved. HTHMikeDamone said:Good analysis. I liked that you abbreviated Standord and Arizona to Furd and Zona. Very efficient and saved me some time in an otherwise TL article. Thanks for doing that. Also, in the future, please post this type of article on www.hardcorehuskyoffensivelineman.com. Thanks.
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Can we take this to the www.hardcorehuskyoffensivelineman.com website please? It's been beaten to death already.
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Great read. This is the kind of blunt truth that is no longer allowed over on the other site. Has anyone sent this to Softy? Anyone else at KJR? How about Brock Huard at KIRO?
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such a fucking joke. how does this happen year after year? god dammit.
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It's been 12 years since we've had a great o-line and Kim just wants to ignore it all and blame Keith Price for all of the ills of Sark's offense. So sick of the bullshit.
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No one gives a fuck about Husky football (RIP). That's how it happens.volcanodawg said:such a fucking joke. how does this happen year after year? god dammit.
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Look at how Mora is recruiting at UCLA and remember what the school and the lapdogs think of him. That's your fucking answer. We don't want sark to fail we knew he would. We were right about Mora. You motherfuckers should have joined the money grabbing bitter and political cult of personality
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Good read.
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I've talked to Cream Puff personally about the O line, "We get it. We'll bring them in." - 2010, Portland Alum event.
This guy is one dumb mother fucker to be blunt. How can you be a QB and not understand you're only as good as your line?
If his only failure was O line recruiting (I wished) he would still be a marginal coach. -
Was that the one at 50 Plates? If so, I was there. I also heard him say 9 wins in 2010.Steve_Bowman said:I've talked to Cream Puff personally about the O line, "We get it. We'll bring them in." - 2010, Portland Alum event.
This guy is one dumb mother fucker to be blunt. How can you be a QB and not understand you're only as good as your line?
If his only failure was O line recruiting (I wished) he would still be a marginal coach.
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You guys can quote something from 3 years ago....but nobody can remember a direct Kim quote from last week?
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There's quite a few people on this bored who no longer have access to Kim's quotes. What did he say?HuskyJW said:You guys can quote something from 3 years ago....but nobody can remember a direct Kim quote from last week?
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Your " critical and thoughtful analysis" ignores 2 salient facts. Willinghams first recruiting year came off a decent program left to him and part of that recruiting was built off neuheisels recruiting efforts. Sark's firt year was just 2 months and built off Willingham's ugly program. So be a real analysis you should just compare both coaches last 4 years.
Sark for those 4 years scores 1724 compared to Mr. W's 1429 points. Clearly your critical and thoughtful numbers ignore those points -
Huh?
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Huh? is right. One guy is probably the worst coach in college football history, the other is merely a poor coach. The salient facts don't change the dismal pictures for these two.
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Thanks for that.......73dawg said:Your " critical and thoughtful analysis" ignores 2 salient facts. Willinghams first recruiting year came off a decent program left to him and part of that recruiting was built off neuheisels recruiting efforts. Sark's firt year was just 2 months and built off Willingham's ugly program. So be a real analysis you should just compare both coaches last 4 years.
Sark for those 4 years scores 1724 compared to Mr. W's 1429 points. Clearly your critical and thoughtful numbers ignore those points
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The main reason he sucks so much is the pathetic AD slugs will keep his dead wood butt around as long as he stays above 500. Hiring is a pain in the ass. They don't want to work that hard.
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I don't think it's that they don't want to work hard. I think they feel like they've invested a lot into Sark and into high-priced assistants and renovations to help assist and/or prop him up, depending on your point of view. There also might be an element of ego involved, in not wanting to admit that hiring Sark may have been a mistake.
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You may be right Derk, about the hard work point. I'm being cynical; a decade of lousy/poor performance does that.
I hope you're wrong about the "invested a lot part." If they feel like they can overcome weak, ineffective leadership by investing, we're really screwed.
I probably should step away from the keyboard for several years........DerekJohnson said:I don't think it's that they don't want to work hard. I think they feel like they've invested a lot into Sark and into high-priced assistants and renovations to help assist and/or prop him up, depending on your point of view. There also might be an element of ego involved, in not wanting to admit that hiring Sark may have been a mistake.
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You act like 1-10 never happened73dawg said:Your " critical and thoughtful analysis" ignores 2 salient facts. Willinghams first recruiting year came off a decent program left to him and part of that recruiting was built off neuheisels recruiting efforts. Sark's firt year was just 2 months and built off Willingham's ugly program. So be a real analysis you should just compare both coaches last 4 years.
Sark for those 4 years scores 1724 compared to Mr. W's 1429 points. Clearly your critical and thoughtful numbers ignore those points
What happened to all the FREE PUB from the rose bowl game?
Willingham took over after two years of Gilby (not Nuehiesel) and the successful 2008 recruiting class was one of the reasons used to keep Willingham around for another year. So Willingham had an advantage because he could continue Nuehiesels 7 WR class recruiting success from 3 years prior but Sark gets a mulligan because he couldnt continue Willinghams recruiting success from the year before?
There is no statistical evidence to suggest that a coach's first year of recruiting is significantly lower or different than the following years. I looked at 25 different pac10 coaches and compared their first year to the following years recruiting (up to 4) and there was no evidence that the first year a coach is hired they have significantly lower recruiting "success" or scores. Simply because Sarks first year sucked doesnt mean you get to just throw out the first year because you feel like it, if you are going to remove data you have to prove why, not because "mulligan!".
Regardless, this is the real world. Every year counts, every day their are 11 other coaches trying to do better than Sark. There is no mulligan because you are a new coach, if Sark sucks at recruiting OL because his only experience was 2 years as offensive coordinator then it was probably a poor hire, not lets just pretend this year never happened.
Sark's OL recruiting during his tenure is nearly the same as Willingham's, there is nothing subversive or deceitful in that, it is the truth and reality that is going on in our program. You can justify it or make excuses, that doesnt change our reality. -
invested a lot in hiring an inexperienced head coach who wasn't on anyone's top 25 list of candidates... Woody's woody for Sark was no different than Hedges hiring Neu because he was so good looking... interestingly, Hedges' pheromone hire is going to haunt Woody.
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Bump.
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Somebody drop this gem on the rivalry board.
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No point. Within minutes, it would go "poof."MisterEm said:Somebody drop this gem on the rivalry board.
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RoadDawg55 said:
No point. Within 53 seconds, it would go "poof."MisterEm said:Somebody drop this gem on the rivalry board.
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So then the obvious solution is to move Derrick Brown to OG, then UW will move past OSU in the above standings.
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Anybody paying attention who knows even a moderate amount about football would have figured this out at least three recruiting seasons ago and without the science. Why on earth Sarkisian and his recruiters have under-emphasized OL (and DL) recruiting is at minimum a head scratcher.
Given his poor to mediocre OL recruiting, it's perhaps a wonder that Sark is now working on his fourth straight 7-6 season. How can he have even one winning season without at least competing for control of the line of scrimmage....... which Sark obviously is not?
The answer requires no science and is right under your nose if you think about it. There's nothing more certain for producing a winner in football than outworking the competition in recruiting, player development, and everything else required to kick butt on the gridiron.
