Great story about why coaching matters
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As a young(ish) person I fucking love story time with Uncle Race.
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The problem with you and your "perspective" is that any losing program can make the same excuses. It really is as simple as win or gtfo. It has very little to do with 25 years ago, although teams like that should always be the goal.HuskyInAZ said:It's amusing to me that some HHB posters can't separate what happened 10, 20 or 30 years ago with today. Different players, different coaches, different administrators, different college football environment. UW football is not entitled to anything based on what has happened in the distant past.
I'm no spring chicken, and I was at UW for a good chunk of the glory years. But WTF does that have to do with our situation today? Nothing.
@HeretoBeatmyChest has been doing yeoman's work putting things in perspective. Losing sucks. I agree and get it. But clicking your heels and demanding "win or GTFO" because we were dominant 25 years ago is bullshit.
LIPO, you impetulant fucks. Oh, and fire Smith today. -
Not to downplay the whole winning thing because not only does it matter, but it's the only stat that anybody should ever give 2 shits about.
But given the overall youth on the roster, and given that in many ways that this year is as much about player development as anything else, there's a fine line between developing players and winning games.
Browning hasn't been great this year ... and I don't think anybody is expecting him to be. But if what we get over the next 2-3 years is due in part to taking some lumps this year, then wouldn't the future payoff be worth it? -
Petersen has the chance to buy another year from me. The gains by parts of this team (Defense, special teams, and incremental growth on the o-line, lack of forceful plungerings) have been refreshing but Smith and his offense are the ashtray on my greasy pork sandwich. Has Pete shown himself to be a good game day manager? No, but neither is Les Miles and he has a natty. Hire a competent, professional coordinator and lets see what happens. If we get more of the same next year...Door.Ass.Out. Experiment over, He's not the guy.
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Here is where I am at...
One of the reasons I was and still am excited about Petersen is that we had not had an adult in charge of the program for over a decade. I remember so many posters on here saying the same thing when he was hired too, we needed a coach that would not come in here and try to pull smoke and mirrors, this program needs substance. Even Neuheisel built his team down to a loser after several years. But what this program absolutely needed was a change in everything. Petersen blew shit up last year, he ran the program trying to prove a point to players that they are soft as shit basically and undisciplined as sin, mostly because they are.
This is and has been a soft ass program that is a fucking loser program, I am on board with Petersen because I know he came in here and was appalled by the shit that this football program has been on for the last 4 coaches or whatever and realized that it needs to be blown the fuck up. I know that's not what anyone wants to hear since we have been rebuilding for 15 years, but how is any of that shit Petersen's fault?
I am willing to give him his third year to show the significant gains that should be shown in year 3.
I absolutely understand and agree with all of you voicing concerns, they are legitimate, especially on the offensive side of the ball. But I am going to give Petersen his time. -
Didn't you listen to the fan podcast? Are you senile?RaceBannon said:
Why did the coach get fired after the 04 season then?FremontTroll said:Neat little story but its not like Florida was in the middle of a HUUUGE REBUILDING YEAR in 2005.
They were favored by 4 in that game. They won by 4. Not because of the offense- the offense sucked balls. It was one of the worst games of the year for an offense that averaged 27 points against power 5 conference teams.
They won because they held Georgia to 4.5 yards per play and Georgia missed two field goals.
When will UW not be in the middle of a HUGE rebuilding year?
When will doogs stop dismissing every successful coach and apologizing for the losers we hire?
They didn't cross midfield against LSU. Those 14 points stopped them from losing 10-0
Only at UW is the task so fucking monumental that you can't expect shit for 12 years so just sit back and make excuses.
Does anyone think that Petersen burns with the fire of a thousand suns to win like Meyer did and does?
Why would he you fucking doogs love losing
Rack me
I don't make up the rules. I don't know why this is a HUGE REBUILDING YEAR™ and next year won't be. I am just a minion. Ask the Chest. -
I didn't listen so if I blew up at you for no reason I apologize but it felt good to do so anywayFremontTroll said:
Didn't you listen to the fan podcast? Are you senile?RaceBannon said:
Why did the coach get fired after the 04 season then?FremontTroll said:Neat little story but its not like Florida was in the middle of a HUUUGE REBUILDING YEAR in 2005.
They were favored by 4 in that game. They won by 4. Not because of the offense- the offense sucked balls. It was one of the worst games of the year for an offense that averaged 27 points against power 5 conference teams.
They won because they held Georgia to 4.5 yards per play and Georgia missed two field goals.
When will UW not be in the middle of a HUGE rebuilding year?
When will doogs stop dismissing every successful coach and apologizing for the losers we hire?
They didn't cross midfield against LSU. Those 14 points stopped them from losing 10-0
Only at UW is the task so fucking monumental that you can't expect shit for 12 years so just sit back and make excuses.
Does anyone think that Petersen burns with the fire of a thousand suns to win like Meyer did and does?
Why would he you fucking doogs love losing
Rack me
I don't make up the rules. I don't know why this is a HUGE REBUILDING YEAR™ and next year won't be. I am just a minion. Ask the Chest. -
At Neu's direction, Gilby sat down with Tui and Conniff in a room and said "teach me everything you know about running the option". They had run it at Woodinville and gone to the state semi finals in 1996.Passion said:In 1999 neuheisel inherited an option QB, but he (neuheisel) had never run the option. So, he called nebraska, air force and other programs that had perfected that system. He implemented the option and the rest is Rose Bowl history.
Not a huge neuheisel fan, but it shows what can happen when a coach understands his players' abilities and puts winning over some "offensive philosophy" that worked in a different place, a different time, and with different people.
On a side note, Tui and Conniff were part of an epic collapse during a monsoon that kept them from reaching the state championship game. They had a fumbled exchange that was returned for a TD, and the very next series Tui threw a pick 6. -
One of the reasons I was excited about Petersen is the belief he had the ability to take recruiting classes cumulatively ranked 23rd (I'm pulling the number from my ass, but it's probably accurate + - 3 spots) and turn it onto the 11th ranked team in a couple years. The defense has made good progress but the offense hasn't yet.
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I think Lindy could have been a great option QB for us this year. Even better would have been Troy Williams.
