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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Millen had terrible college stats at UW. He was also benched during his senior year and was the only QB in a 30 year run to lose to Oregon State. Hugh was a fucking bum.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/hugh-millen-1.html

    Those numbers are a fucking dreckfest.

    I don't care about his personal performance. You don't have to have done it yourself to be able to analyze those who are doing it now.

    The problem is Hugh's QB analysis is HMFS.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,903 Founders Club

    Millen must not like Hobart, who despite being undefeated as a starter, never put the team on his back and willed them to a win.

    The classy Nebraska fans who rose as one and I disagree. Brunell loses that game. When the Huskies were down and it was 4th and forever James told Billy we had to have it.

    "No shit, coach"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,903 Founders Club
    Millen coming off the bench to save the Orange Bowl was pretty good too
  • Millen must not like Hobart, who despite being undefeated as a starter, never put the team on his back and willed them to a win.

    The classy Nebraska fans who rose as one and I disagree. Brunell loses that game. When the Huskies were down and it was 4th and forever James told Billy we had to have it.

    "No shit, coach"
    Agree. Hobert had that "it" factor. Team was down 21-9 in a hostile environment. Normally a QB making his second career start in that environment shrinks up like a bitch instead he rose to the occasion.
  • dnc said:

    Millen had terrible college stats at UW. He was also benched during his senior year and was the only QB in a 30 year run to lose to Oregon State. Hugh was a fucking bum.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/hugh-millen-1.html

    Those numbers are a fucking dreckfest.

    I don't care about his personal performance. You don't have to have done it yourself to be able to analyze those who are doing it now.

    The problem is Hugh's QB analysis is HMFS.

    I only bring up Hugh's stats to be a bitch. It used to piss Softy off a lot when I'd do that.

    Millen is an idiot and I actually think he doesn't like black QB's. His refusal to give Wilson or Price credit confirms my beliefs.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Millen had terrible college stats at UW. He was also benched during his senior year and was the only QB in a 30 year run to lose to Oregon State. Hugh was a fucking bum.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/hugh-millen-1.html

    Those numbers are a fucking dreckfest.

    I don't care about his personal performance. You don't have to have done it yourself to be able to analyze those who are doing it now.

    The problem is Hugh's QB analysis is HMFS.

    I only bring up Hugh's stats to be a bitch. It used to piss Softy off a lot when I'd do that.

    Millen is an idiot and I actually think he doesn't like black QB's. His refusal to give Wilson or Price credit confirms my beliefs.
    I think it's just as possible he's biased against small QB's as black QB's. The Miley era will be a good litmus test.

  • dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Millen had terrible college stats at UW. He was also benched during his senior year and was the only QB in a 30 year run to lose to Oregon State. Hugh was a fucking bum.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/hugh-millen-1.html

    Those numbers are a fucking dreckfest.

    I don't care about his personal performance. You don't have to have done it yourself to be able to analyze those who are doing it now.

    The problem is Hugh's QB analysis is HMFS.

    I only bring up Hugh's stats to be a bitch. It used to piss Softy off a lot when I'd do that.

    Millen is an idiot and I actually think he doesn't like black QB's. His refusal to give Wilson or Price credit confirms my beliefs.
    I think it's just as possible he's biased against small QB's as black QB's. The Miley era will be a good litmus test.

    Will it be a good test? I mean when Lindquist gets suddenly senior'd the only QB's on the depth chart will all be black.
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Millen is most definitely not an "idiot". What are the other options?

    Haven't listened to the Honks in years, but pretty sure he's referencing a Tui like situation at Stanford 2000 (after CW goes down). Could KP do that? Maybe he could
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Millen had terrible college stats at UW. He was also benched during his senior year and was the only QB in a 30 year run to lose to Oregon State. Hugh was a fucking bum.

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/hugh-millen-1.html

    Those numbers are a fucking dreckfest.

    I don't care about his personal performance. You don't have to have done it yourself to be able to analyze those who are doing it now.

    The problem is Hugh's QB analysis is HMFS.

    I only bring up Hugh's stats to be a bitch. It used to piss Softy off a lot when I'd do that.

    Millen is an idiot and I actually think he doesn't like black QB's. His refusal to give Wilson or Price credit confirms my beliefs.
    I think it's just as possible he's biased against small QB's as black QB's. The Miley era will be a good litmus test.

    Will it be a good test? I mean when Lindquist gets suddenly senior'd the only QB's on the depth chart will all be black.
    The only QB's on the Seahawks roster are black and that hasn't caused him to jump on the Russell wagon

  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    On the other side of the coin I can't remember a game where UW lost and I went "damn if not Price we win this game".

    Real talk: 2012 USC, 2012 WSU. Keith was awful. Yes, Sark is mostly to blame for this. He is the millionaire. But KP sucked balls.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Gladstone said:

    On the other side of the coin I can't remember a game where UW lost and I went "damn if not Price we win this game".

    Real talk: 2012 USC, 2012 WSU. Keith was awful. Yes, Sark is mostly to blame for this. He is the millionaire. But KP sucked balls.

    YRYK

    After getting hammered around the first couple games last year Price was a shell of his former self. Those two games I definitely felt like were there for the taking with a QB who wasn't completely shattered emotionally. Thankfully, Price has rebounded well this year.

  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Passion said:

    Actually a comment by Hugh that I agree with.

    He said (something to the effect of) his opinion of Price will change when Keith "puts the team on his back and wins a game." In other words, what game has Price played in where fans largely walked away saying, "we would not have won that game had it not been for Keith."

    I actually agree with that statement. He's thrown for lots of yards and touchdowns, but unlike Tuiasosopo, Locker, or even Pickett, I can't think of a game where Price actually carried the team to victory.

    Uh,um, er, he almost did the year Montana started @ OSU. That showed me Keith is the real deal (even though we lost) It did show the difference between Ty's recruits (Price) vs Sark's recruits (Montana).
  • Price didn't play great against USC or WSU but I didn't feel like he blew the game. WSU he made a dumb play but was playing decent to that point.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/482599/year/2012/keith-price
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited September 2013
    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    On the other side of the coin I can't remember a game where UW lost and I went "damn if not Price we win this game".

    Real talk: 2012 USC, 2012 WSU. Keith was awful. Yes, Sark is mostly to blame for this. He is the millionaire. But KP sucked balls.

    YRYK

    After getting hammered around the first couple games last year Price was a shell of his former self. Those two games I definitely felt like were there for the taking with a QB who wasn't completely shattered emotionally. Thankfully, Price has rebounded well this year.

    I felt pretty confident he would get it back, but he was damaged goods by the end of last year. I know it is only one pass, but he had an incomplete throw to a wide open ASJ in the end zone last against Colorado that a ten year old could have completed. He ended up with good stats in that game, but he was a key reason it was only 7-0 at half. It made me wonder what the fuck happened to the baller from 2011.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Price didn't play great against USC or WSU but I didn't feel like he blew the game. WSU he made a dumb play but was playing decent to that point.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/482599/year/2012/keith-price

    198 yards passing on 34 throws against a crapppy defense is not playing decent.

    Yes, doogs are too hard on Price, but we don't have to respond by overhyping him. Call it what it it is. He was bad against WSU. It's okay to admit that.
  • dnc said:

    Price didn't play great against USC or WSU but I didn't feel like he blew the game. WSU he made a dumb play but was playing decent to that point.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/482599/year/2012/keith-price

    198 yards passing on 34 throws against a crapppy defense is not playing decent.

    Yes, doogs are too hard on Price, but we don't have to respond by overhyping him. Call it what it it is. He was bad against WSU. It's okay to admit that.
    2 TD's and 1 INT though plus led what should have been a game winning drive which would have taken away that one INT.

    He did miss some bad throws in that game(Had an open Mickens for a TD) but wasn't terrible either.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited September 2013
    Lots of good points here, and I appreciate the whole "Locker-saved-the-game-after-screwing-up-for-3-quarters" argument. I also appreciate the argument that Price did all he could at Baylor.

    I also agree that Hugh is inconsistent in his analysis of Jake and Keith, and is largely a d-bag. No question.

    I think Price has been PHENOMENAL, but there are games when defenses look like shit, and the QB has to drive the team to victory (i.e., "carry them"). Even the games that were highlighted, I don't see as memorable in terms of critical first downs, 4th quarter drives, and game winning throws. He had those chances last year against the coogs and boise state, but threw pics.

    Maybe it's unfair from a certain point of view.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    edited September 2013
    18 penalties in the Apple Cup didn't help nor did the defense giving up 18pts in the 4th quarter giving the cougs the greatest come back in apple cup history.

    In respects to Hugh, I just don't think he is a good guy. Him and softy are perfect for each other paper tigers with enormous egos.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Gladstone said:

    On the other side of the coin I can't remember a game where UW lost and I went "damn if not Price we win this game".

    Real talk: 2012 USC, 2012 WSU. Keith was awful. Yes, Sark is mostly to blame for this. He is the millionaire. But KP sucked balls.

    Keith drove the Huskies down in position to win the Apple Cup, then Sark Sarked it.