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HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
@DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

@FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    That's why your a doog, dumbass.

    Also, I guessed the score better than you did.

    Aren't you glad you insisted on a prediction?

    You suck at this.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited October 2015
    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    I like to say that those that predicted good offense and poor defense this year are smart ... and those that called the opposite even though time is proving that side to be correct are doogs ... that's what I like to do.

    If you couldn't see that the offense was going to struggle with a young and inexperienced OL, a true frosh QB, and a bunch of JAGs at the WR position, then I don't know what to tell you.

    The above doesn't mean that Pete and Smith don't deserve heat or that Smith is in way over his head and should be fired (he should) ... some of you fucktards either need to learn the difference or book yourself in a Hell in a Cell match against Brock Lesner.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Tequilla said:

    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    I like to say that those that predicted good offense and poor defense this year are smart ... and those that called the opposite even though time is proving that side to be correct are doogs ... that's what I like to do.

    If you couldn't see that the offense was going to struggle with a young and inexperienced OL, a true frosh QB, and a bunch of JAGs at the WR position, then I don't know what to tell you.

    The above doesn't mean that Pete and Smith don't deserve heat or that Smith is in way over his head and should be fired (he should) ... some of you fucktards either need to learn the difference or book yourself in a Hell in a Cell match against Brock Lesner.
    huh?

    @HuskyInAZ semen must be in your eyes if you can't see that I never said people who thought we would have a good offense and a bad defense were smart.

    Great strawman as always though
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    I read that whole poast in Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite's class president speech voice and it really made it enjoyable.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Houhusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    I like to say that those that predicted good offense and poor defense this year are smart ... and those that called the opposite even though time is proving that side to be correct are doogs ... that's what I like to do.

    If you couldn't see that the offense was going to struggle with a young and inexperienced OL, a true frosh QB, and a bunch of JAGs at the WR position, then I don't know what to tell you.

    The above doesn't mean that Pete and Smith don't deserve heat or that Smith is in way over his head and should be fired (he should) ... some of you fucktards either need to learn the difference or book yourself in a Hell in a Cell match against Brock Lesner.
    huh?

    @HuskyInAZ semen must be in your eyes if you can't see that I never said people who thought we would have a good offense and a bad defense were smart.

    Great strawman as always though
    The only thing moar annoying than some shit bag poaster using a strawman argument to say something dumb is some shit-bag poaster angrily pointing it out like they are fucking logic-man.

    It's fucking embarrassing.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    It isn't an either / or.

    The secondary is well coached and struggled last year due to youth but got it turned mostly turned around by season's end.

    The offense is struggling due to youth AND coaching. Problem is, I don't see Petersen firing JS during the season so unless JS suddenly morphs into a top-flight coordinator, the offense will only slowly improve the rest of the year with Browning back.

    I don't see how pointing all of this out makes anyone a Doog...it is what it is.
    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club
    HFNY said:

    It isn't an either / or.

    The secondary is well coached and struggled last year due to youth but got it turned mostly turned around by season's end.

    The offense is struggling due to youth AND coaching. Problem is, I don't see Petersen firing JS during the season so unless JS suddenly morphs into a top-flight coordinator, the offense will only slowly improve the rest of the year with Browning back.

    I don't see how pointing all of this out makes anyone a Doog...it is what it is.

    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    This. Smith SUCKS, we are young, the defense is decent and Peterman may or may not be the guy. This isn't hard, we watch this shit every Saturday.
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,301
    The OL isn't playing as bad as I thought they would be, which is a small +, but every other position on the offense appears to be regressing. The WRs look like shit...worst group of hands since 2008. These POS O coaches need to get the QB-WR timing down and balls caught! How many 1-8 yard passes did Carta-Samuels underthrow?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Smith should have been fired last year or never hired at all.

    That's all on Pete dude.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    How does weather make things difficult for a running QB?

    It will be a lot higher than 27-20.

    Say, 35-34.
  • dongman
    dongman Member Posts: 2,384
    On the line site I checked, they lister Cyler Miles as out.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Arizona as a team isn't good in bad weather. BJ Denker was a running QB and Arizona really struggled in 2013 in a rainy night game at Husky Stadium.

    https://washington.rivals.com/boxscore.asp?Game=41209&Team=WASHINGTON

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    How does weather make things difficult for a running QB?

    It will be a lot higher than 27-20.

    Say, 35-34.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Tequilla said:

    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    I like to say that those that predicted good offense and poor defense this year are smart ... and those that called the opposite even though time is proving that side to be correct are doogs ... that's what I like to do.

    If you couldn't see that the offense was going to struggle with a young and inexperienced OL, a true frosh QB, and a bunch of JAGs at the WR position, then I don't know what to tell you.

    The above doesn't mean that Pete and Smith don't deserve heat or that Smith is in way over his head and should be fired (he should) ... some of you fucktards either need to learn the difference or book yourself in a Hell in a Cell match against Brock Lesner.
    It's one thing to point out that the offense will go through growing pains, it's quite another to predict the ridiculous performances against boise state, cal and oregon. No excuse for what we saw on the field in those games.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    I see what you're saying but it's also important to remember that our best QB on the roster is a true frosh and those were his first few starts against above average teams.

    In those 3 games, Browning took 10 sacks, threw 3 INTs, and averaged about 5.5 yards per attempt. Even though we beat USC, he still only completed 50% of his passes for 4.3 ypa and 1 INT.

    The only thing that gives me hope is that Browning had his best game of the year vs. Oregon and it sucks he didn't have a chance for that last drive. He went 19-30 with a 6.6 yards per attempt and 1 TD.

    Despite a 90% chance of rain, Arizona's D sucks and Browning should see a lot of 1 deep safety looks which make for easier reads since they'll be geared towards stopping Gaskin. He's been a nice surprise this year and the OL run blocking is coming along well.

    No reason why Browning should have more than 20-25 pass attempts on Saturday. Gaskin and Browning should have roughly the same amount of run / pass attempts.
    Passion said:

    Tequilla said:

    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    I like to say that those that predicted good offense and poor defense this year are smart ... and those that called the opposite even though time is proving that side to be correct are doogs ... that's what I like to do.

    If you couldn't see that the offense was going to struggle with a young and inexperienced OL, a true frosh QB, and a bunch of JAGs at the WR position, then I don't know what to tell you.

    The above doesn't mean that Pete and Smith don't deserve heat or that Smith is in way over his head and should be fired (he should) ... some of you fucktards either need to learn the difference or book yourself in a Hell in a Cell match against Brock Lesner.
    It's one thing to point out that the offense will go through growing pains, it's quite another to predict the ridiculous performances against boise state, cal and oregon. No excuse for what we saw on the field in those games.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    HFNY said:

    Arizona as a team isn't good in bad weather. BJ Denker was a running QB and Arizona really struggled in 2013 in a rainy night game at Husky Stadium.

    https://washington.rivals.com/boxscore.asp?Game=41209&Team=WASHINGTON

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    How does weather make things difficult for a running QB?

    It will be a lot higher than 27-20.

    Say, 35-34.
    So Arizona sucked two years ago in hurricane-force winds therefore a team with the same jerseys and approximately 3-5 of the same players will suck if its raining on Saturday?

    Pretty weak hypothesis.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    HFNY said:

    Arizona as a team isn't good in bad weather. BJ Denker was a running QB and Arizona really struggled in 2013 in a rainy night game at Husky Stadium.

    https://washington.rivals.com/boxscore.asp?Game=41209&Team=WASHINGTON

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    How does weather make things difficult for a running QB?

    It will be a lot higher than 27-20.

    Say, 35-34.
    So Arizona sucked two years ago in hurricane-force winds therefore a team with the same jerseys and approximately 3-5 of the same players will suck if its raining on Saturday?

    Pretty weak hypothesis.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    HFNY said:

    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    Despite?

    You mean the same Stanford team that was averaging 49 points per game in Pac-12 play before our game?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Yeah, bad word choice.

    Should read, "The D held Stanford to 18 points below their Pac-12 average and I firmly believe our D is one of the best in the Pac-12....they would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer."

    I guess I could see Arizona scoring more than 20, maybe 24 tops. Preliminary O / U looks to be 57 or 58 which is still too high. I think UW wins by 4-7 points...maybe even 10 if Arizona starts to roll over towards the end of the 3rd quarter.

    The only thing that could lead to UW not covering (or even winning) is yet another slow start by the offense. Petersen should script the first 10 plays with minimal JS' input.

    HFNY said:

    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    Despite?

    You mean the same Stanford team that was averaging 49 points per game in Pac-12 play before our game?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HFNY said:

    Yeah, bad word choice.

    Should read, "The D held Stanford to 18 points below their Pac-12 average and I firmly believe our D is one of the best in the Pac-12....they would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer."

    I guess I could see Arizona scoring more than 20, maybe 24 tops. Preliminary O / U looks to be 57 or 58 which is still too high. I think UW wins by 4-7 points...maybe even 10 if Arizona starts to roll over towards the end of the 3rd quarter.

    The only thing that could lead to UW not covering (or even winning) is yet another slow start by the offense. Petersen should script the first 10 plays with minimal JS' input.

    HFNY said:

    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    Despite?

    You mean the same Stanford team that was averaging 49 points per game in Pac-12 play before our game?
    So just like every game this year?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Yes, that tends to happen with a terrible o-coordinator, a true frosh QB, and essentially a whole new starting 5 on the OL.

    We can only hope that Browning builds on his best Power 5 game of the year (vs. Oregon) and the OL continues to improve.

    HFNY said:

    Yeah, bad word choice.

    Should read, "The D held Stanford to 18 points below their Pac-12 average and I firmly believe our D is one of the best in the Pac-12....they would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer."

    I guess I could see Arizona scoring more than 20, maybe 24 tops. Preliminary O / U looks to be 57 or 58 which is still too high. I think UW wins by 4-7 points...maybe even 10 if Arizona starts to roll over towards the end of the 3rd quarter.

    The only thing that could lead to UW not covering (or even winning) is yet another slow start by the offense. Petersen should script the first 10 plays with minimal JS' input.

    HFNY said:

    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    Despite?

    You mean the same Stanford team that was averaging 49 points per game in Pac-12 play before our game?
    So just like every game this year?
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    HFNY said:

    Fair point.

    Kadeem Carey was also a huge stud while Nick Wilson is still banged up and their D sucks. Despite giving up 31 points to Stanford, I still think our D is one of the best in the Pac-12 and would have even better numbers if the offense could possess the ball longer.

    HFNY said:

    Arizona as a team isn't good in bad weather. BJ Denker was a running QB and Arizona really struggled in 2013 in a rainy night game at Husky Stadium.

    https://washington.rivals.com/boxscore.asp?Game=41209&Team=WASHINGTON

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.

    How does weather make things difficult for a running QB?

    It will be a lot higher than 27-20.

    Say, 35-34.
    So Arizona sucked two years ago in hurricane-force winds therefore a team with the same jerseys and approximately 3-5 of the same players will suck if its raining on Saturday?

    Pretty weak hypothesis.
    Yes I agree that Arizona's defense is god awful. I have them as 5th to worst out of power conference teams in yards per play adjusted for opponent.

    They can't stop the run and they can't stop the pass.

    It doesn't really matter who Arizona's RB is- yes Wilson is a stud but they have a stable of small, fast guys all of whom will get theirs in that offense.

    Another thing to consider when looking at the over/under for Arizona games is their pace- under Rich Rod they are always in the top 10 in adjusted pace. Their o/u has only closed under 60 once in the past two years (and they've gone over the number 7/8 times this year.)

    Now all that being said Smith is FS and we suck so the o/u will probably be like, 57 or so, I just think this is a perfect set-up for our offense to look good and start showing "improvement" so Smith will end up keeping his job, yay!!!
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Smith has to show more than just against Arizona. Bigger test will be against Utah, which still has a pretty good D.

    If they scored just 17 @ Stanford and 30 vs. UCLA at home (with a late TD or else it would've been 56-23), I really don't see them scoring more than 24 against U-Dub on the road on a rainy night.

    So even if JS suddenly becomes a maestro and UW scores 31 points, 31-24 still hits the under.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    HFNY said:

    Smith has to show more than just against Arizona. Bigger test will be against Utah, which still has a pretty good D.

    If they scored just 17 @ Stanford and 30 vs. UCLA at home (with a late TD or else it would've been 56-23), I really don't see them scoring more than 24 against U-Dub on the road on a rainy night.

    So even if JS suddenly becomes a maestro and UW scores 31 points, 31-24 still hits the under.

    Ultimately this is a dumb argument because its about 50% to go under and 50% to go over. Maybe 55/45 either way but not because of either your nor my analysis in this thread.

    My problem is that you came up with your position first and then looked for evidence to support it.

    Randall has gotten a lot better since the Stanford and UCLA games not to mention those game scripts aren't at all applicable since Stanford and UCLA broke out the plunger early which is very unlikely to happen on Saturday.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Houhusky said:

    HFNY said:

    @DerekJohnson said this during the podcast and hit the nail on the head: "It's clear Jonathan Smith doesn't know what he's doing". Even with a back-up QB, I would've called a different game than how he did.

    At what point does Kwiatkowski try to punch out Babushka a la Buddy Ryan?

    Petersen has to coach up his coaches so he better be spending nearly all his time with Smith.

    I can't believe they didn't let KJCS do a read-option with him keeping it at least once.

    Trey Adams played better, nice to see.

    @FremontTroll had the call to take UW +19. I got in at +18 and feel lucky since I was guessing Browning was going to play (I projected Stanford to win 33-20 with Browning playing).

    I like how the OL looked (Eldrenkamp particularly) in the running game and thought the pass protection was decent. The sack I remember (out of 3) was Coleman Shelton getting beat, maybe it was a stunt.

    I said it after the USC game and I'll say it again, this is a 6 win team. Don't know how that makes me a Doog in ThomasFremont's mind or that I agree with him that JS needs to be terminated.

    Gotta beat Arizona to get to those 6 wins. Browning is going to play and Huskies will win 27-20 with an assist from the weather, making life difficult for Randall and / or Solomon.


    You're a doog because you think that the reason we have sucked is because of youth, not poor coaching and game planing. It's straight out of the doog playbook, blame the players not the coach.

    Welcome to husky football, where the sum is always less than the parts.

    Intelligent posters will note that most people predicted atleast 7-8 wins this season, but mostly due to losing so much on defense, not the offense (PetersIins wheelhouse) somehow finding a way to regress.
    Except the people that really know... the wiseguys had you at 4.5 going into the year.

    You'll do better than that but No QB, no wins. End of story.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    I guess you could also say debating who is going to win a game is dumb because 50% of the teams win and 50% of the teams lose.

    I still think UW will win and if the under is 58, the under will be the play. Sounds like you think the O / U will end up being in the 60's?

    HFNY said:

    Smith has to show more than just against Arizona. Bigger test will be against Utah, which still has a pretty good D.

    If they scored just 17 @ Stanford and 30 vs. UCLA at home (with a late TD or else it would've been 56-23), I really don't see them scoring more than 24 against U-Dub on the road on a rainy night.

    So even if JS suddenly becomes a maestro and UW scores 31 points, 31-24 still hits the under.

    Ultimately this is a dumb argument because its about 50% to go under and 50% to go over. Maybe 55/45 either way but not because of either your nor my analysis in this thread.

    My problem is that you came up with your position first and then looked for evidence to support it.

    Randall has gotten a lot better since the Stanford and UCLA games not to mention those game scripts aren't at all applicable since Stanford and UCLA broke out the plunger early which is very unlikely to happen on Saturday.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HFNY said:

    I guess you could also say debating who is going to win a game is dumb because 50% of the teams win and 50% of the teams lose.

    I still think UW will win and if the under is 58, the under will be the play. Sounds like you think the O / U will end up being in the 60's?

    HFNY said:

    Smith has to show more than just against Arizona. Bigger test will be against Utah, which still has a pretty good D.

    If they scored just 17 @ Stanford and 30 vs. UCLA at home (with a late TD or else it would've been 56-23), I really don't see them scoring more than 24 against U-Dub on the road on a rainy night.

    So even if JS suddenly becomes a maestro and UW scores 31 points, 31-24 still hits the under.

    Ultimately this is a dumb argument because its about 50% to go under and 50% to go over. Maybe 55/45 either way but not because of either your nor my analysis in this thread.

    My problem is that you came up with your position first and then looked for evidence to support it.

    Randall has gotten a lot better since the Stanford and UCLA games not to mention those game scripts aren't at all applicable since Stanford and UCLA broke out the plunger early which is very unlikely to happen on Saturday.
    Will you STFU already with your wannabe Vegas talk? It's worse than Tequilla essays. NOGAF about how the team performs relative to the spread, or what the O/U is.

    The O/U is 5.

    End of discussion.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Will you STFU already with your criticism of over / under talk? This is a college football board and we are talking about the Huskies on a...surprise....Husky Football website.

    HFNY said:

    I guess you could also say debating who is going to win a game is dumb because 50% of the teams win and 50% of the teams lose.

    I still think UW will win and if the under is 58, the under will be the play. Sounds like you think the O / U will end up being in the 60's?

    HFNY said:

    Smith has to show more than just against Arizona. Bigger test will be against Utah, which still has a pretty good D.

    If they scored just 17 @ Stanford and 30 vs. UCLA at home (with a late TD or else it would've been 56-23), I really don't see them scoring more than 24 against U-Dub on the road on a rainy night.

    So even if JS suddenly becomes a maestro and UW scores 31 points, 31-24 still hits the under.

    Ultimately this is a dumb argument because its about 50% to go under and 50% to go over. Maybe 55/45 either way but not because of either your nor my analysis in this thread.

    My problem is that you came up with your position first and then looked for evidence to support it.

    Randall has gotten a lot better since the Stanford and UCLA games not to mention those game scripts aren't at all applicable since Stanford and UCLA broke out the plunger early which is very unlikely to happen on Saturday.
    Will you STFU already with your wannabe Vegas talk? It's worse than Tequilla essays. NOGAF about how the team performs relative to the spread, or what the O/U is.

    The O/U is 5.

    End of discussion.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Good idea.

    ThomasInFremont and I should meet for a Happy Hour date on Aurora. I can be easy to miss but I'll have my blue briefcase with me as a sign

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    MisterEm said:

    Will you two fuck, podcast it, and get it over with already?

    The tension is thick.