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Cal was bad back when Tedford took over. Tom Holmoe, the coach before Tedford went 9-30 in Pac 10 play at Cal. Tedford did a very good job for awhile. If anything, he's an example of a good coach that lost it. We could be seeing something similar with Petersen.
That's an interesting comparison.

Seems as if Peterman still has it on the D side ...

Wonder what happens if he loses Kawasaki.

Tedford's last year at Cal was a total disaster. However, in 2011 he had the 2nd best defense in the Pac 12. Cal had the top defense in 2010 (yardage wise).

Tedford's offenses went to shit and he couldn't find and develop a QB. His offenses completely lost their identity and as @BearsWiin noted, his playbook was supposedly twice as thick in later years. He took a bunch of random shit he liked from other programs and threw it on the wall. It's actually very similar to what is happening with Petersen at UW. Hopefully it fucking changes.

BearsWiin

IIRC, one big issue with Skippy's other job interview was that he met with the 49ers secretly, and only fessed up to it when somebody called him on it.
Yeah but only doogs cared. Rick managed to lose both sides of the fan base even though at that time it was not obvious that there were two sides. The old school Lambo doogs hated him from day 1. Winner Dawgs were starting to hate him for losing too much.

The old school Lambo fucking stupid doogs won the day when they used that interview and a Final 4 pool to fire him in June, thus forever burying Husky Football under the man boobs of their new Coach Gilby. #HiHarv

Winner Dawgs probably would have gone for a firing after the season if he kept his downward trajectory. The Rose Bowl win should have given him that 5th year.

It was, IMO, the right thing to get rid of Skippy, since his trajectory was downward (what's a lineman? kumbaya) and he'd had a similar trajectory at Colorado (and would go on to do the same thing at UCLA). The problem wasn't getting rid of a mediocre coach; the problem was the shit hire to replace him. Perhaps if they'd cut Blondie loose between seasons they wouldn't have had the nightmare interim process that got them (sure, he sucked at Cal, but Cal sucks, and he's a Washington guy!) Gilby.

Somebody remind me again: why did they get rid of Lambo? Was he UW's version of Frank Solich?

RaceBannon

And Sark also "quite honestly" told Mitch that he wasn't going anywhere the day he left for USC

Doogles

I witnessed firsthand the collapse of Tedford's empire. Ranked #2 at home against Oregon State, the PA guy announces #1 LSU lost and memorial stadium goes crazy, all they have to do is beat the lowly Beavs and their first #1 ranking is guaranteed.

Nate Longshore goes down and in comes Kevin Reilly. People forget Longshore was actually good until his ankles turned into crumbled cement. I knew what was going to happen as my nearly blacked out Cal buddies freaked out over the next hour. They have a chance to at the least tie it up with a fg, but Reilly runs for the endzone instead of throwing it away and is tackled in play. Time expires. The student section all went home to do their homework.

Cal never sniffed relevance again.

BearsWiin

Cal was bad back when Tedford took over. Tom Holmoe, the coach before Tedford went 9-30 in Pac 10 play at Cal. Tedford did a very good job for awhile. If anything, he's an example of a good coach that lost it. We could be seeing something similar with Petersen.
That's an interesting comparison.

Seems as if Peterman still has it on the D side ...

Wonder what happens if he loses Kawasaki.
Tedford's last year at Cal was a total disaster. However, in 2011 he had the 2nd best defense in the Pac 12. Cal had the top defense in 2010 (yardage wise).

Tedford's offenses went to shit and he couldn't find and develop a QB. His offenses completely lost their identity and as @BearsWiin noted, his playbook was supposedly twice as thick in later years. He took a bunch of random shit he liked from other programs and threw it on the wall. It's actually very similar to what is happening with Petersen at UW. Hopefully it fucking changes.

I think it was Brock Mansion, one of many Elite 11 QBs who came to Cal and lost their ability to hit receivers, who said sometime in 2011 or so that it took 2 1/2 years for players to understand what they were trying to do offensively at Cal. About the same time the OS(U) coaching staff was quoted after one game that they knew everything that the Cal offense was going to do. The playbook was so intricate that the players couldn't get it all, so they had to dumb it down to the more basic plays that the players did get, but so could the opposing coaches. Even analyst Bellotti alluded to Tedford's offenses as having become too predictable. As a Cal fan, the 2010-2012 era was exceedingly frustrating.

dnc

I witnessed firsthand the collapse of Tedford's empire. Ranked #2 at home against Oregon State, the PA guy announces #1 LSU lost and memorial stadium goes crazy, all they have to do is beat the lowly Beavs and their first #1 ranking is guaranteed.

Nate Longshore goes down and in comes Kevin Reilly. People forget Longshore was actually good until his ankles turned into crumbled cement. I knew what was going to happen as my nearly blacked out Cal buddies freaked out over the next hour. They have a chance to at the least tie it up with a fg, but Reilly runs for the endzone instead of throwing it away and is tackled in play. Time expires. The student section all went home to do their homework.

Cal never sniffed relevance again.

So you're saying @BearsLoose??

alumni94

I bet Tedford first 5 years had a higher winning percentage than any Husky coach since James
Not fair. Neu didn't get five years.
That was his own fault.
No. It was BabsFS fault. People forget that Neu won his case against the school for wrongful termination.
Just like everyone forgets Finland.

Voted down for bagging on Finland. Mennä kuolla tulipalossa .

BearsWiin

I witnessed firsthand the collapse of Tedford's empire. Ranked #2 at home against Oregon State, the PA guy announces #1 LSU lost and memorial stadium goes crazy, all they have to do is beat the lowly Beavs and their first #1 ranking is guaranteed.

Nate Longshore goes down and in comes Kevin Reilly. People forget Longshore was actually good until his ankles turned into crumbled cement. I knew what was going to happen as my nearly blacked out Cal buddies freaked out over the next hour. They have a chance to at the least tie it up with a fg, but Reilly runs for the endzone instead of throwing it away and is tackled in play. Time expires. The student section all went home to do their homework.

Cal never sniffed relevance again.

I was in the north end zone for that game, and Riley pulled that gaffe right in front of us. Longshore had injured his ankle with about 5 minutes left in the Oregon game, and he was never the same player after that. Tedford subbed Riley in for Longshore at some point during the OS(U) game because it was clear that Longshore couldn't throw off of his bum ankle, and Riley looked really good. Then Tedford didn't call a time out to remind Riley that he needed to throw to the end zone or throw it away and settle for the FG. Tedford didn't trust Riley's judgement after that mistake, so he went back with Longshore for most of the rest of the season, and the Bears absolutely collapsed. The team itself was divided behind closed doors, as some players strongly wanted Riley to start over the immobile but more experienced Longshore. Tedford lost the team the second half of that year, but even so it was talented enough to challenge USC in a rainy late-season night game (I mention that game because Longshore looked really bad on four of his throws, and later I had somebody ask our OC what happened - his response was that twice the WRs ran the wrong routes, and twice the WRs didn't see that hand checks at the line that told them to do something else, because of the rain. So even then we had glimpses of the overly complicated playbook, and this was only in 2007.).

RaceBannon

IIRC, one big issue with Skippy's other job interview was that he met with the 49ers secretly, and only fessed up to it when somebody called him on it.
Yeah but only doogs cared. Rick managed to lose both sides of the fan base even though at that time it was not obvious that there were two sides. The old school Lambo doogs hated him from day 1. Winner Dawgs were starting to hate him for losing too much.

The old school Lambo fucking stupid doogs won the day when they used that interview and a Final 4 pool to fire him in June, thus forever burying Husky Football under the man boobs of their new Coach Gilby. #HiHarv

Winner Dawgs probably would have gone for a firing after the season if he kept his downward trajectory. The Rose Bowl win should have given him that 5th year.
It was, IMO, the right thing to get rid of Skippy, since his trajectory was downward (what's a lineman? kumbaya) and he'd had a similar trajectory at Colorado (and would go on to do the same thing at UCLA). The problem wasn't getting rid of a mediocre coach; the problem was the shit hire to replace him. Perhaps if they'd cut Blondie loose between seasons they wouldn't have had the nightmare interim process that got them (sure, he sucked at Cal, but Cal sucks, and he's a Washington guy!) Gilby.

Somebody remind me again: why did they get rid of Lambo? Was he UW's version of Frank Solich?

You never fire a coach in June. Fire him after the season or after the next one. And hire a new coach that isn't a blob of Pac 10 failure already.

We had standards when Lambo got fired and he didn't meet them. He followed the legend

BearsWiin

IIRC, one big issue with Skippy's other job interview was that he met with the 49ers secretly, and only fessed up to it when somebody called him on it.
Yeah but only doogs cared. Rick managed to lose both sides of the fan base even though at that time it was not obvious that there were two sides. The old school Lambo doogs hated him from day 1. Winner Dawgs were starting to hate him for losing too much.

The old school Lambo fucking stupid doogs won the day when they used that interview and a Final 4 pool to fire him in June, thus forever burying Husky Football under the man boobs of their new Coach Gilby. #HiHarv

Winner Dawgs probably would have gone for a firing after the season if he kept his downward trajectory. The Rose Bowl win should have given him that 5th year.
It was, IMO, the right thing to get rid of Skippy, since his trajectory was downward (what's a lineman? kumbaya) and he'd had a similar trajectory at Colorado (and would go on to do the same thing at UCLA). The problem wasn't getting rid of a mediocre coach; the problem was the shit hire to replace him. Perhaps if they'd cut Blondie loose between seasons they wouldn't have had the nightmare interim process that got them (sure, he sucked at Cal, but Cal sucks, and he's a Washington guy!) Gilby.

Somebody remind me again: why did they get rid of Lambo? Was he UW's version of Frank Solich?
You never fire a coach in June. Fire him after the season or after the next one. And hire a new coach that isn't a blob of Pac 10 failure already.

We had standards when Lambo got fired and he didn't meet them. He followed the legend

But what I'm hearing is that Gilby was 28-9 at Idaho

Fire_Marshall_Bill

It's funny to remember that there was a lot of hate towards Rick because he interviewed for another job. Nowadays Sark leaves for USC and there's a lot of "he did so much for the program!". Only one of those two won a Rose Bowl.

He lied about it and there was some other stuff besides the pool people forget. Nobody saw 1-10, 2-9, and owen12 coming.

It's easy to judge in hindsight, and yeah, Rick would have probably mitigated that disaster five or six year stretch somewhat before he got fired eventually, but he wasn't helping himself along the way.

topdawgnc

It's funny to remember that there was a lot of hate towards Rick because he interviewed for another job. Nowadays Sark leaves for USC and there's a lot of "he did so much for the program!". Only one of those two won a Rose Bowl.
He lied about it and there was some other stuff besides the pool people forget. Nobody saw 1-10, 2-9, and owen12 coming.

It's easy to judge in hindsight, and yeah, Rick would have probably mitigated that disaster five or six year stretch somewhat before he got fired eventually, but he wasn't helping himself along the way.

It was fucking stupid to fire him in June.

And even fucking stupiderer to replace him with Gilby.

If you were going to fire his ass in June ... then make Gilby a fucking temp and do a full search to get a real replacement.

But fuck that ... by that point Husky football was dead and buried. The doogs won.

allpurpleallgold

It's funny to remember that there was a lot of hate towards Rick because he interviewed for another job. Nowadays Sark leaves for USC and there's a lot of "he did so much for the program!". Only one of those two won a Rose Bowl.
He lied about it and there was some other stuff besides the pool people forget. Nobody saw 1-10, 2-9, and owen12 coming.

It's easy to judge in hindsight, and yeah, Rick would have probably mitigated that disaster five or six year stretch somewhat before he got fired eventually, but he wasn't helping himself along the way.

You're a child if you think him lying about it was a big deal.