Salt in the wound
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Real progress hasn't been made in this program since 2000, but still.Doogles said:This program loves to face plant before real progress is made. Now we pitter patter through the schedule and end up fighting hunger against the mountain west in mid December. The narrative is we're young with a bright future.
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When points are at a premium, you take every last fucking chance you have to score them.Tequilla said:Oregon's first score came from 2 broken plays ...
As the game played out, the vast majority of Oregon's success came from broken plays ...
I expect that the coaching staff had confidence in the defense to hold/maintain Oregon's offense, including their running game (which the numbers supported at the end of the game).
For our offense, points are at a premium. Forcing them to play catchup early doesn't help at all.
Punting was the correct call.
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He's been a Doog forever.doogsinparadise said:
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. When did you turn into such a Doog?Tequilla said:
This is a great post if you were factually correct ... but you aren't.doogville said:
Holy shit. It actually was definitively not the right call. Because they punted (0 pts for us (Us?)), and Oregon scored (7 pts, if you are keeping track).Tequilla said:Oregon's first score came from 2 broken plays ...
As the game played out, the vast majority of Oregon's success came from broken plays ...
I expect that the coaching staff had confidence in the defense to hold/maintain Oregon's offense, including their running game (which the numbers supported at the end of the game).
For our offense, points are at a premium. Forcing them to play catchup early doesn't help at all.
Punting was the correct call.
This is not a theoretical exercise. They actually punted and it was the wrong fucking call!
Are we done now or do you want to keep going?
Because I could also address how, if your defense is your strength, THAT IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO TAKE HIGH PERCENTAGE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OUT YOUR OFFENSE AND SCORE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT POINTS.
We had 4th and 1 on the 39 ... we punted to the 10.
On the next drive, defense held Oregon to a 3 and out until Psalm Wooching went offsides on a 4th and 4 to give Oregon a 1st down. Oregon got a nice run from Freeman on the next 2 plays to give Oregon a 1st down before that drive sputtered and they punted it back to us with a 50 yard punt that went out of bounds at our 5.
Get the punt where you should have had it (from the Oregon 15), and even with a 40 yard net kick we get the ball back at the 45 yard line.
First play of the next drive was a 34 yard run by Gaskin. That would have immediately put us in FG range. -
UW is a middling team in a shitty, parity driven pac-12. A win against USC is lovely, however it's worthless when you back it up with the shit sandwich we saw Saturday. Nobody assumed UW was winning 10 games this year, so what is the point of not taking chances on the season? CP isn't getting fired for going for it this season and considering our offense isn't exactly explosive taking a few chances is the only way we score.
First and foremost you said that the only way oregon really scored were blown plays. Coaches don't count on blown plays, thus he should have assumed his defense should be able to hold oregon even if we were to be stopped from 60 yards away. If we can't than we weren't winning the game anyway.
UW hasn't won vs oregon in a decade. The sad part is that CP has had two more wins against Oregon with another team than UW has in the last 11 years. CP built a reputation for his creativity and balls, yet most of his tenure at UW has been basic vanilla offense with no creativity, TE use, or downfield plays with the constant drum beat of Youth as to why we aren't expanding the playbook. I know everyone says that you become a conservative as you age, but i was hoping for just politics, not football. What do you lose by going for it early in the game? The defense is the best thing we have, it certainly isn't our shitty WR's who can't catch passes the 1 out of 8 times browning actually throws it on target.
UW is going to hope for a bowl bid, but even that is marginal hope at best. Why the fuck should we care if we lose 45-7 or not? We need creativity to try new things not the same boring shit that makes nobody want to watch the game. We've seen that for some time. Guess who pushed the field with a walk on qb and beat oregon? FUCKING WSU. We were more scared than the fucking cougs. I'm so tired of watching this team be vanilla. We see the exact same formation, the exact same fucking snap count, the same vaginal calls on plays for fear of a turn over. Christ who cares? Now that we're a ways into the season, I have seen hundreds of football games and we're the only team in the nation who regularly relies on a stupid clap for snapping the ball. The worst part is that it still continues to be a 2 count on 90% of our plays. Is our QB so lacking in sack that he can scream a call at home? Even better all the defense can gauge when a play will be run.
I have always looked at this season as a way to build for the future. I'm assuming CP did too with his anointing browning at QB. Why are we trying to run games as if we're Alabama? Take some chances, run some plays and create some options that players can call on in the next couple years.
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We traded a measly 29 yard punt for an even chance of a first down and some points.Tequilla said:
This is a great post if you were factually correct ... but you aren't.doogville said:
Holy shit. It actually was definitively not the right call. Because they punted (0 pts for us (Us?)), and Oregon scored (7 pts, if you are keeping track).Tequilla said:Oregon's first score came from 2 broken plays ...
As the game played out, the vast majority of Oregon's success came from broken plays ...
I expect that the coaching staff had confidence in the defense to hold/maintain Oregon's offense, including their running game (which the numbers supported at the end of the game).
For our offense, points are at a premium. Forcing them to play catchup early doesn't help at all.
Punting was the correct call.
This is not a theoretical exercise. They actually punted and it was the wrong fucking call!
Are we done now or do you want to keep going?
Because I could also address how, if your defense is your strength, THAT IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO TAKE HIGH PERCENTAGE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OUT YOUR OFFENSE AND SCORE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT POINTS.
We had 4th and 1 on the 39 ... we punted to the 10.
On the next drive, defense held Oregon to a 3 and out until Psalm Wooching went offsides on a 4th and 4 to give Oregon a 1st down. Oregon got a nice run from Freeman on the next 2 plays to give Oregon a 1st down before that drive sputtered and they punted it back to us with a 50 yard punt that went out of bounds at our 5.
Get the punt where you should have had it (from the Oregon 15), and even with a 40 yard net kick we get the ball back at the 45 yard line.
First play of the next drive was a 34 yard run by Gaskin. That would have immediately put us in FG range.
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@Tequilla is a great poster though.Blayen said:
We traded a measly 29 yard punt for an even chance of a first down and some points.Tequilla said:
This is a great post if you were factually correct ... but you aren't.doogville said:
Holy shit. It actually was definitively not the right call. Because they punted (0 pts for us (Us?)), and Oregon scored (7 pts, if you are keeping track).Tequilla said:Oregon's first score came from 2 broken plays ...
As the game played out, the vast majority of Oregon's success came from broken plays ...
I expect that the coaching staff had confidence in the defense to hold/maintain Oregon's offense, including their running game (which the numbers supported at the end of the game).
For our offense, points are at a premium. Forcing them to play catchup early doesn't help at all.
Punting was the correct call.
This is not a theoretical exercise. They actually punted and it was the wrong fucking call!
Are we done now or do you want to keep going?
Because I could also address how, if your defense is your strength, THAT IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO TAKE HIGH PERCENTAGE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OUT YOUR OFFENSE AND SCORE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT POINTS.
We had 4th and 1 on the 39 ... we punted to the 10.
On the next drive, defense held Oregon to a 3 and out until Psalm Wooching went offsides on a 4th and 4 to give Oregon a 1st down. Oregon got a nice run from Freeman on the next 2 plays to give Oregon a 1st down before that drive sputtered and they punted it back to us with a 50 yard punt that went out of bounds at our 5.
Get the punt where you should have had it (from the Oregon 15), and even with a 40 yard net kick we get the ball back at the 45 yard line.
First play of the next drive was a 34 yard run by Gaskin. That would have immediately put us in FG range.
And you are defending the punt.
Everybody says so. -
It's more like 3.6 ypc. You have to take out the long run.doogsinparadise said:Look @Tequilla, I get what you're trying to say, but in a game where you average around six yards per carry a 4th and 1 is no worse than a coin flip. There's a lot that's been written recently by the stat nerds that shows going on 4th on the opponents end of the field is nearly always the correct choice.
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I don't even know why they bothered giving Gaskin six points.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
It's more like 3.6 ypc. You have to take out the long run.doogsinparadise said:Look @Tequilla, I get what you're trying to say, but in a game where you average around six yards per carry a 4th and 1 is no worse than a coin flip. There's a lot that's been written recently by the stat nerds that shows going on 4th on the opponents end of the field is nearly always the correct choice.
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I was being a little facetiousTierbsHsotBoobs said:
I don't even know why they bothered giving Gaskin six points.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
It's more like 3.6 ypc. You have to take out the long run.doogsinparadise said:Look @Tequilla, I get what you're trying to say, but in a game where you average around six yards per carry a 4th and 1 is no worse than a coin flip. There's a lot that's been written recently by the stat nerds that shows going on 4th on the opponents end of the field is nearly always the correct choice.
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I was being a lot whooshed.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I was being a little facetiousTierbsHsotBoobs said:
I don't even know why they bothered giving Gaskin six points.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
It's more like 3.6 ypc. You have to take out the long run.doogsinparadise said:Look @Tequilla, I get what you're trying to say, but in a game where you average around six yards per carry a 4th and 1 is no worse than a coin flip. There's a lot that's been written recently by the stat nerds that shows going on 4th on the opponents end of the field is nearly always the correct choice.
